Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on capesandtights.com dot. I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode we'd welcome back comic book retailer of galactic comics and collectibles in Bangor, Maine, Paul Eaton to the podcast to discuss the Green Lantern movie from 2011 as we prepare for Ryan Reynolds return as Deadpool in Deadpool three this summer. I know Paul and I have discussed about watching this movie for a little while now. We opted to do it this month in preparation for, you know, Ryan Reynolds, his latest superhero movie. You'll just have to listen and watch to get our thoughts on this film. But before you do, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Blue Sky, Twitter threads, all the stuff out there as like and review or, sorry, like and share our page and so on and so forth. But you can also listen to us on Apple Spotify. We have a YouTube channel. So like share, subscribe, all those things over there as well as anywhere on your major podcasting platforms out there. But yeah, so check us out on there.
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[00:01:25] Speaker B: Here we are.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: We're here. You know, it's a new software. We get a little troubleshooting. We all felt like we're in our forties here.
Sure. Trying to figure this out. Well, I'm 38.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: It's a struggle bus for me anyways.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: You were trying to get it out at, you know, 40 plus years old, trying to figure this out. No, this is pretty cool. So, Paul, just so you know, as we're doing this software and stuff like that, you might glip, glitch a little bit here and there. But that's not in the final recording because I think it's, because it's, as it's uploading, it's, it's doing that. But because it's doing this whole upload thing, it's a cool software. I would give him a shout out so far, but if we have to shit on them, I guess it's not a good thing. But Riverside FM is the new software. So if we end up saying this is shit, then it's not.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: Here we are in the great state of Maine, and I don't know that our Internet's always like, up to par. Maybe, well, like you wonder, looking for a house, maybe it's really not software thing as much as it is just.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Odds well, it's like talking to.
Yes. And the best part about it is that I'm always like, but if we move there, they don't have access to. Can we move somewhere where there's access to fiber, please? Um, there's places in Bangor that have fiber. There's places at certain places. And I'm thinking myself, I'm like, she's like, is that really? I'm like, yes. I want 7000gb/second I want the fastest Internet possible. I want what NASA gets for Internet. And she's like, we don't need them. I know. It's always better that way. And the funny thing is, it matters.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Yeah, right. It's better that more.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: But the thing is, you having, if you had slower Internet and doing this podcasting thing, it wouldn't help me at all because your Internet needs to be, you know, I mean, like, it's not. It would need to match.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. It would only be good if the other person is as high quality as yours. You're thinking of switching ours here in upgrading from what we currently have to the new fiber network? This must be better. Yes.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: So, but, yeah, we're here not to talk about Internet and podcasting software. I guess. I mean, like I said, the best thing about this software is that it records as we go. So in the past, if anybody's listen to an episode or two here and there, when we have a couple of glitches here and there, this should alleviate that because the fact that Paul's recording on his computer and I'm technically recording on my computer, and at the end it will upload, or it's uploading as we go, so that we're getting quality stuff here. So hopefully this works out. We'll see. You know, which. I took a little swing here, Paul. I started a new software and a new mixer at the same time. I don't know if that was a good idea or, you know, just get it all done with.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: I just came up in the world to having my own microphone and camera.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: We'll see how that works in the long run.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: But now.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: But, so we're here to talk Green Lantern. We've been trying to do this episode for a little while, and we thought we would do this. Paul, what was your idea? You're on. To honor the greatest actor of all time, Ryan Reynolds. Now to honor Ryan Reynolds coming out.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: With Deadpool, celebrating the release of Deadpool.
Let's go movie the Green Lantern, which is funny.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: We're going to start off the top. I've talked to you in the comic book shop about this.
It's not as bad as people say it is, I'll tell you that right now. And that may be a minute. I might be in the minority there, Paul.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: It also has to do with the fact that I'm not a DC fan. Most people know that, you know, that I'm not a huge DC fan. So because of that, I think that there's this.
I don't have the preconceived history of Hal Jordan or Green Lantern or anything like that. So, like, if I'm looking at the historical, accurate part of it, it makes a little bit more just a fun Ryan Reynolds movie. And I'll just get to look at Blake lively for an hour and a half. So I don't know if that's a negative thing. Oh, and Ryan Reynolds, you're fine. Apparently both of them are extremely attractive to look at, so I don't know what. It's just worth the. Worth the viewing in that. But, uh, yeah, we're here to talk about Green Lantern, and this is Paul's pick. Everybody just let you know it's Paul's fault.
It's definitely Paul's fault.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah, this is my fault. That's true. Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to pick, like, a really fantastic movie. So let's pick apart the Green Lantern. Even though I'm. I'm sure of all the movies we've done, this one's probably been picked apart quite a bit on the Internet anyway.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it has. There is this fault, Paul. I mean, there's definitely, definitely a ton of faults in this, but I don't think it's in the. Yeah, it's not the same category as the other ones we have. It's like, it's because it's slightly more modern, because it is 2000.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: It's not the same category. Howard the duck.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: No. Or the Captain America, the next movie we're watching there. It's just in this weird, like, my God, it was supposed to be better.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: Came out 2011. Yeah.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And here's the, here's the table top. We'll start off with that party the same year this came out.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Maybe one of the reasons why people crap on it so much.
Captain America, the first Avenger released, X Men first class released, and Thor released. So you're talking to three other big, major budget films in the same year, all of the same.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: So they're up again.
[00:06:40] Speaker A: This is the worst of all of them. And so that even classes, those movies. Yes.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Yeah. That's not doing it any favors. And that I personally really like Thor.
I did not like X Men first class anyways. And the cat movies. The cat movie, like, it was great. I don't know. But as far as this movie stands, I am a long term, like, Green Lantern fan. I binge read through blackest night in all of its, like, entirety.
I love Ryan Reynolds. I don't think in the grand scheme of things, Ryan Reynolds is the greatest casting for Hal Jordan. And I think that's some of the problem with the movie. If you're a DC fan, he's just not Hal Jordan. It's kind of like watching Ryan Reynolds get a ring and join the Green Lantern Corps. He just. He doesn't scream how Jordan just the whole time. It's just you're watching Ryan Reynolds and he doesn't seem overly comfortable in this. You know what I mean? He seems a little off, a little awkward in the role, maybe.
Yeah.
[00:07:43] Speaker A: I mean, Paul Ryan Reynolds, the reason why he does so good at Deadpool is because it's basically Ryan Reynolds. You know, I mean, like Deadpool, Wade Wilson is Brian Reynolds.
And that's why I feel like this is different, because this is. This is more Ryan Reynolds trying to play Green Lantern. And that doesn't seem.
But what else did he do? I mean, obviously he was the shitty version of Deadpool, right? I mean, he was the shitty version of Deadpool prior to this. He was.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Watch that movie. I thought about that movie, too.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: He was in Blade Trinity, obviously, but he wasn't like a major star in that movie. And then he was in a lot of, like, romantic comedies.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: And comedy films and things like that. So, like, the movie he made two years or. Yeah, two years prior to that was a movie called the proposal with, what was her name?
Sandra Bullock. Yeah.
Terra.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: And the same year he came up.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: With a change up something.
[00:08:44] Speaker A: And so, like, there's not this, like.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: Oh, God, I forgot about that movie. That was Jeremy Ringer in it, right?
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Which actually, I was thinking this morning, like, if I was going to have cast how Jordan at that time, I might have considered, like, Jeremy Renner for the role. I feel like he might have pulled off Hal Jordan a little more.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: He's too busy, Hawkeye.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: So I feel like that's one of the things Ryan. Ryan Reynolds is great if he's like, just let him be, you know what I mean? Let him be funny. Let him be crazy. And Hal Jordan's character is not really that way.
How's a lot more like, of a serious character. So, like, maybe like, Jeremy Renner playing that role in, like, seeking to use his will and all of that and be a strong character and save the world would have just fit better. Like, let's face it, none of us as, like, Marvel fans want to see Deadpool try to save the world. It's gonna get really screwed up. We're better off letting him run around and just, you know, kill and slain.
Act like a moron.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: You're right.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: You read about that hero team for, like, this is our one chance to, to save the universe. We are not taking Deadpool with us. We are going to leave him.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: He's going to kill us all. There's been conflicts about that killing all the universe.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: You're going to give him, like, you're going to give him tasks. He's going to go screw up half of them. He's going to forget what he was doing in the first place.
And that's what is great. And that's why I think some respects, like, Ryan Reynolds doesn't fit this role because the Green Lantern is such a serious character. Like, he's, he's usually up there with Superman and Batman and, you know, he's, he's not, he's not a moron. That's what Deadpool is. And, like, I don't know, Ryan Reynolds just screams Deadpool. Like, that's his jam. He's awesome at it.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: But I would also give him a second crack at it if they ended up wanting to make another Green Lantern movie and they wanted, like they did for Deadpool, giving him a second lie. Life with after Wolverine origins, is that, like, what's due Ryan Reynolds version of Green Lantern? I bet he was. Kill it. He's much better of a movie maker and better of an actor nowadays than he was in 2011, I'll tell you that much.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I could, I could agree with that. That's probably fair. And I mean, there's an entire story arc in the DC universe of an older Hal Jordan and him kind of losing, I don't know, he basically becomes a villain in it. Like, his struggle with, like, being between the hero and villain lines and where is like, because the Green Lantern Corps essentially is the police force. Where's your line between, like, justice and that? And then your other side of just like this is now just about revenge.
So, I mean, you could do, you could have and try like an older Hal Jordan and old man.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: How.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Old man?
[00:11:38] Speaker A: How. Yeah.
What is, in your opinion, in 2011, when this movie came out? July, June 17, to 2011 when this film hit the theaters. What was the fandoms? Do you remember what the fandoms reaction to having a Green Lantern movie coming out? Besides the fact that it was Ryan Reynolds playing?
[00:11:58] Speaker B: I can tell you exactly what mine was.
My wife's a huge, like, she loves going to the movie. She was like, if I'm like, hey, let's go see this. She's usually gonna go for the sake of going to the movie. And we went and saw this, like, opening week. It may have even been opening night and saw the Green Lantern. And I think at the time, I was really excited that the Green Lantern was on the big screen and that they did a good job in this movie of roughly following the comic storyline. Like, it does a pretty good job of following what the Green Lantern Corps is, what they're about, how it comes around. Like, the Parallax story is a little different, but trying to do Parallax the way it is in the comics would have looked weirder than this does.
So, like, overall, as a fan, I didn't dislike the movie, but I looked at my wife afterwards and I'm like, what do you think? And she's like, what did I just watch? Like, this was just weird. And, like, this movie sticks to the comics so well that maybe it doesn't go very well into the theaters or do well for people that aren't big Green Lantern fans. I can see people that aren't Green Lantern fans being like, that was the weirdest fucking movie I've ever seen.
Like, you've, you've got the other villain there of Hector and his head all, like, giant. And, like, it's just, there's a lot of weird crap going on in this, and it works in the comics.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: Well, here's my question. As a person who follows, you know, DC universe and has done this. So there's three different Green lanterns. There's Alan Scott, Hal Jordan, Jon Stewart. Why do you think that Hal Jordan was the one that they chose to do this one?
[00:13:47] Speaker B: So there's five lanterns.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Alan Scott was the original, and his. His origin is completely different. Um, he's actually by magic. So I can see not covering that one. Um, then came Hal Jordan. He was the first lantern of the Green Lantern Corps. Um, Kyle Raynor is very popular. Um, and I could see a Kyle Raynor movie. There was Guy Gardner. Um, he was like your eighties athlete, bowl cut, sort of ridiculous. Uh, and, and then John, which would be, uh, John Carpenter is a great character, and you could have a lot of stuff with him. Being a former military and the stuff that goes on. But Hal Jordan is really your launch of the Green Lantern. Like, if you're gonna do it, I could see him picking Kyle because he's so loved and he was, like the lantern of the early nineties or mid nineties.
So a lot of the, like, moviegoers now, I'm sure, would love to see a Kyle Rainer movie. A lot of my Green Lantern fans that come in here are still like, oh, I can't wait for Kyle to get his own book again. But to me, how Jordan is the Green Lantern and with him being the first of the Green Lantern core ones, it makes the most sense to follow his storyline.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, there's been future caps. We made Captain America, you know, Steve Rogers first, and then they're now making, you know, other versions of Captain America nowadays. So that does make sense in that sense, if they were to make another one. So they're going to make a Green Lantern feature film again. Do you think they go Hal Jordan again? Or do you think they end up deciding to do more of a modern interpretation of it?
[00:15:21] Speaker B: I think you do more of a modern pick, maybe because Hal, still the lantern, like, in the comic realm, there are still four lanterns from Earth. There's now five lanterns from Earth, actually, because there's a female Lantern I actually haven't read anything about because I've sort of fallen off the DC Universe stuff with rebirth.
But I could see, doing a modern one, I could see, I think John would be a great, great story.
His time in the army and serving him being an architect and going about and then getting the ring. And he has, in the, in the comics, he has this huge failure. He fails one of the planets of his sector and the whole planet dies. And he has to, like, carry that burden with him all the time.
So I could see his story being a great one to tell now.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: And it's also, you know, in a world we live in, it's a good thing to also represent other races and ethnicities and things like that. And the fact that, you know, Jon Stewart is black would help with that. Not saying that you need to do that to check out the boxes. I'm saying that it's nice to represent other ethnicities on screen as superheroes. And it would be a nice, you know, version of the character to do Jon Stewart.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And John, I said John Carpenter. John. John Carpenter. That's a whole other movie. John Stewart.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: John Carpenter. Is that the singer of the Carpenters or is that.
[00:16:54] Speaker B: Isn'T that like, John Carpenter's like an old Sci-Fi isn't it?
[00:16:58] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: How far off can we get in this conversation?
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Well, first of all, I was right. John Carpenter is a filmmaker who wrote the fog, the Halloween movies, the thing. So he said actual movie maker, too. But I don't know, you could be right about the other one, too. But I know he's an old movie maker. That's why the name sounded so familiar to me as a, as a film fan in that sense. But, yeah, this movie came out in 2011. Yes. A film buff. And it's a, like I said, it was competing against three other pretty massive comic book movies at the same year. So, like, we were in that, like, post Iron man success of the MCU.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: Was in big launch time.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: That's the other hard part. Like, the MCU is in the big launch, and here's green Lantern kind of.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Just showing up wearing jewelry, had to have his rings on, do his thing, and, you know, but the funny thing is, to me, it was in the same time as this is that you had, like I said, going forward. We talked about this slightly. Is Taika Waititi's in this movie, which is kind of funny because he has a bigger role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. After. After this, you have Tamira Morrison, who went on to play, you know, he's obviously Boba Fett in the Boba Fett series on Star wars, which is crazy. And then you have Tim Robbins, who's phenomenal as an actor in general in that. But you also have Angela Bassett, who ended up being, was it T'Challa's mom in Black Panther? And then obviously Ryan Reynolds goes on and also plays Deadpool. It's just kind of funny that you have all these other characters and people from other Marvel movies, or Michael Clark Duncan, too, obviously. Obviously. He's a pretty big character for this movie. Is. It's phenomenal. You look back at it, like, forget the fact that Ryan Reynolds is not a very good Hal Jordan for a moment here. Just look at the cast itself, and you're like, holy shit. Like, this is stacked movie.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: They didn't.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: They pulled all the punches on this one. They might not have cast it correctly, but they at least pulled all the.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Punches on cast Michael Clark Duncan as the voice.
Oh, my God.
I'm drawing a blank. What is mad with you this morning?
[00:19:24] Speaker A: We could. Took forever trying to get the microphone to work.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah, probably.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Was he in Green Lantern? I don't know his characters names, so I'm looking it up right now, people.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: I mean, I kill a Walker fan, but I'm drawing a complete blank. Killawag. There we go. Thank you. As Killawag was, like, the perfect casting. Like, I think reading the Green Lantern books, that's the voice I pictured was probably Michael Clark Duncan's, like, because he's this giant, intimidating, like, being.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: He's always just gonna be the guy from Green Lantern, in my opinion.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Like, alien that could. You have an alien that could crush you without the ring on.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: But, yeah, like, it's like, green. I was like, green Mile. He's always in this movie with Green in it. He's, he's always gonna be that, like, Michael Clark Duncan in Green movies. He's gonna do, like, Green Hornet next or something.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: So I think he was better cast as this and he was his kingpin, if you want to throw that out there.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah, good point, good point. Good point.
So it was written by Greg Berlanti, Michael Green, which is kind of funny if you've asked him. Green and doing a Green Lantern movie. Mark Guggenheim, Michael Goldberg went in with some edits at the end there. But the funny thing is, we talked about this too, like how, how people didn't like this movie so much, but the guys that wrote these move. This movie went on. Like, he went on. Michael Green went on to do Logan. He wrote part of Logan. He did alien covenant. He wrote a bunch of episodes of Smallville. He wrote a blade. He's writing, he's writing the upcoming Blade movie for MCU.
So obviously, people had faith in the fact that, I don't know, he didn't do anything wrong. It's like, it's like getting written badly.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: Don't know those necessarily written badly. Yeah, it just is.
I don't know. It just doesn't, like, transcend well from the comics to the big screen, necessarily. They do a good job of sticking to the comic, like, accuracy, I will say, sort of. It's hard because you had a lot of characters in this and a lot of people you're introducing all at once, and it felt like watching it. Like you get the Hal Jordan story, which is sort of slow going with his dad dying in the plane crash and then him becoming a fighter pilot, and then he gets the ring and all of a sudden it just went from like, oh, he has no idea what the hell he's doing to, he is a Green Lantern and arguably one of the best green lanterns of the Galaxy.
And I felt like that was, like, really quick. And yet this movie also at the same time felt really long.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Well, that's funny, because I think part of it is, Paul, is that they. I felt like when I was watching it and I didn't do it for a. Oh, my gosh, how long is this movie? I checked the time of how long I've been into the movie and how much is left, but more just long lines of, where am I in this movie? And I felt like it was, like, the two thirds of the way through before we actually got Green Lantern. Green Lantern fighting grime, kind of green Lantern. Whereas the first part of it was, like, developing him as a character, which was really kind of hard to kind of, like, be like, oh, that was a little slow, and so on and so forth. But he also felt like it was a switch flipped, like, here's the ring. Cool. I'm Green Lantern now. And then you're just Green Lantern. It was like there was no, like, apprehension. Or if there was, it was more like a, no, I don't need that. Okay, I'll take it. And then now I'm going to fight crime. It was weird, right?
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Well, and, like, I feel like we would have done better if we'd had some more based crime level fighting stuff. A little time with him, maybe on another planet in space, training with the lanterns, like stopping crime on other planets or breaking up a war or doing things, like, understand what the green lanterns are. Instead, it's just like, he's on Aoa. He's on earth. On earth. He's mostly just flying around and being like, hey, girlfriend, check me out.
It just doesn't do much.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: It worked because he ended up going on a Mary bike.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: Lively threat in the galaxy, right?
We get, like, biggest threat in the galaxy, and, like, well, I could probably handle it. I don't know what the hell I'm doing. And I haven't actually got any experience in this, but I'll take it on.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: It just seemed like it was, like, slow in that sense. That's slow. But.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: But, like, it was really slow going.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: It was slow, but also didn't know where. I felt like the writers were like, oh, shit, we need to finish this movie, and we'll just throw in a bunch of stuff at the end. Not in, like, a. Throw in a bunch of stuff. But it was, like, almost, God, we can't make this three hour movie. And so let's make the action and fun and exciting part of this movie. A half an hour at the end.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Yeah, agreed. Yeah. It felt very disjointed in. In the flow, and it went instant from, like, a really long, boring sort of debut story to real quick, here's your action and everything. And then we're just done with this whole movie.
And I think arguably, there was just, I don't know, there was, like, a lot of characters. Like, we've got Amanda Waller in there. Like, she gets dropped in and you get the whole, like, hector build up while also having parallax, while having the lanterns, while having. Trying to understand what the Guardians are that are in charge of the lantern corps, always still meeting Hal and his love interest in the rest of it.
It's just there's a lot going on in this thing that felt very cramped and rushed at the same time.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Obviously, we were at the beginning of Marvel and other kind of, like, feature. I see feature film tv shows. Tv shows that in the future, in the past, would have been feature films are now tv shows. This probably would have served well as a Netflix or some sort of, like, streaming service tv show because it would have had, like, a couple of episodes of getting to know who Hal Jordan is and his love interest and so losing his dad, all that stuff to getting to meet these people and, like, have it be ten episodes of this growth aspect, and then the last two episodes be like, we're gonna save the world kind of thing. It would have been. I think it would have worked a lot better. It just. I think it was a bad time for it. That's probably the biggest thing, was just bad timing for Green Lantern.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: I think that's one of. Yeah, I think all of that goes against this movie.
And I think this much would have much better served as a six to ten episode series than trying to, like, just cram so much into this movie that overall, I think, is probably one of its biggest flaws. The CGI, watching it now is not great. The CGI, when it was out was like, I don't know, it seemed like it was fine, but now was very cartoony. Like, all of it looks very cartoonish.
This is not like you're watching who framed Roger Rabbit.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: This is not Paul. This is not me saying this, because as a Marvel Van fan versus this, I will say that in overall world of comic books, Captain America, the first Avenger, was, well, Farley fairly received better than Green Lantern. And I don't think that if you told me when I went back and looked at this is when I was like, oh, my God, they were made in the same year. Like, it was that time. Like, that difference in the quality of the movies, in my opinion. Yeah, like, the CGI was definitely behind, for sure.
I mean, they made Captain America look like a freaking scrawny, old, like, young person.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: I think the other hard part of this was, was Captain American can still do a lot of basic effects stuff, and Green Lantern basically requires almost all CGI.
There's not a lot you can do with the Lantern this practical effect.
And I think that's some of the other problem with it. It's just, it's just way too much CGI. But you don't have a choice with the character. I mean, you wouldn't want, like, Hal Jordan in a goofy, like, skin tight suit flying around.
That also wouldn't look good. You know, you know, your aliens coming out looking like giant puppets. We've seen that. It's called Star wars.
Whoa, you're a dick.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: But, yeah, there's this. I just think there's, like, not one huge, glaring mistake for this movie. And I think that part of it maybe, like you mentioned earlier, it is so comic book accurate that that's a prize almost a turn off to the point where, like, people aren't like, yeah, the fringe people won't really understand what's going on.
The CGI was bad. The writing probably wasn't as bad as it could, could have been. But I feel like there was three original writers, and then it had a round of reshoots and rewrites mean. And so when you have that round of rewrites, it automatically is going to go down 25% in the quality of writing because trying to rewrite someone's story while the movie's already being in production is a humongous undertaking. And so, like, all of that together and then timing it with other three massive other comic book movies coming out in the same year automatically brought it down. But the truth of the matter is, it got a 5.5 out of ten on IMDb, 25% critic rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 45% critic rate or consumer rating on Rotten Tomatoes. So it wasn't horribly received compared to some of the other movies we watched.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: Truth. Now, do you think that the 45% that liked it, what, do you think at least 50% of that are Green.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Lantern fans, yes or no? Or the other people are because they didn't think it like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can see that.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: The, like, I enjoy seeing it. I still enjoy the fact that there's a Green Lantern movie that is based very well on the comics. But I totally understand this movie having a lot of failures, a lot of flops, and someone who's not a lantern fan being like, what the hell? Did I just watch.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: Blake lively for an hour and a half? I don't know what the problem is here.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: So whatever turns to. You're a raw argument for the Green Lantern movie.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: If we get Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds as a couple now because of this movie. Thank God.
Oh, God.
So bad. I'm so bad. Um, the. It just seemed clunk. It seemed clunky. I actually just read a comic book recently. Um, that comes out is this week. I don't know. It comes out soon. That was called, oh, profane, the comic book.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: From boom. Yeah. And it's clunky as hell.
I like the story behind it. I like everything about it, except they just felt read really, like, I don't know. I just read like I've read other comic books. You feel like you're missing a page every once in a while. I think that in a advanced PDF that I get that there's, like, some reason they exported incorrectly and they're missing a page. I felt like that in there, and I felt like maybe that has something in this, this Green Lantern movie, too, where it just felt like it wasn't as smooth as it should have been. It was clunky. It was jumping here and there. It was funny when I didn't need to be funny. It was trying to be the Marvel funny, but, like, but, like, not, not correctly.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: I think DC movies as a whole are like that now. I think they are like, oh, we got to have humor because the Marvel movies are funny and people like it, and then they do it wrong.
Like, I think that is an overall, like, deal in the DC movie universe, is poorly placed.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: Humor is Green Lantern. Now the fantastic four of the DC Universe, where they're, like, scared to redo it.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: I could kind of see that. Yeah, probably of all of the DC movies have come out besides a flash, which is just, like, a hot mess. But I can see that Green Lantern being like, let's not maybe touch that. Let's go do other things for a while, and we'll just kind of put the Green Lantern on the back burner because that's because it kills it in.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: The animation side of it.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah. DC animation is terrific.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: But there's, like, there's, like, a ton of DC animation for Green Lantern. There was the animated series. There was all the different, there's all these different movies. I think they just came out with one more recently that dropped a feature film. I think it had John's one of Jon Stewart in it in 2022. I think it was. I saw.
But like. So the animated side of Marvel or the DC is actually, you know. Did you know that in that year that this movie came out, there was an animated. The animated series was going on and I bet that people like the animated series better than, like the movie.
[00:32:29] Speaker B: Probably.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: The animated series got an eight out of ten and 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
And then the feature film, which cost better than millions of dollars to make.
So, Paul.
Yeah. Did you see what the budget in the box office was on this movie? Did you look that up before you started recording?
[00:32:54] Speaker B: No, I was going to. I was curious about that 200 million.
[00:32:59] Speaker A: Dollar budget and it made $220 million in the box.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: This is dead.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: You think it lost money?
[00:33:11] Speaker B: That is. That is not a win. I am going to bet it did. So, man, at the time too, what they spend all that money on, like.
[00:33:19] Speaker A: Special effects, probably back then it was probably more expensive to make a movie.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: But yeah, I was gonna say it's gotta be special effects and then, like, the cast because it's so heavily casted. But besides, that was what, like hookers and blow?
What are they doing with all this money?
[00:33:38] Speaker A: Taika Waititi is expensive. Okay, guys.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: Make a good movie with it.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. It's a movie that. I guess it's always been that kind of, you know, redheaded stepchild for the DC Universe. In a already bad freaking movie universe. They have to make this. This movie that. And this is not one of those ones you can blame on. I don't think you can blame on the time it was made or having to quickly make it to retain the rights or any of those other reasonings and excuses we have for other movies that we watched on this podcast. This movie was just. Was just bad. And. But not as bad as I think, like I said, as people put it out to be. It's just bad. And it's one of those ones that it might even have a 25% critic and a 45% rotten tomatoes, you know, viewer score because the fact that it gets that little bit of a bump because it's a superhero movie and people were really into it in 2011.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. There is. I see here, reading there, he also spent a bunch to try to do. This is like a 3d movie. And I know, like, the 3d effects were so over the top of that point in time and I could see them like, adding extra scenes for the sake of that. So the whole scene, I feel like it shows like, what you can do with a power ring, but the whole scene with the helicopter crashing and him turning it into a race car in a track. And they were trying to also, I think, show, like, his relationship to his nephew, but so just so much, like, least effective way to stop a helicopter crash.
And that had to have been. A lot of that had to have been getting into that 3d effect of, like, oh, you can. It's gonna pop out of the screen. You know, we're gonna have this look like it's coming right at you. But it's just ridiculous. The scene is just ridiculous.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: I'll tell you right now, one of my least favorite things that's ever happened to Hollywood in going into movies is three D. The invention of trying to do 3d movies. Because I don't like, and I already don't like wearing glasses in the first place. Like, I have a trouble already wearing sunglasses because I just feel like I just don't want things on my face. It will fall off. And then you add in top of that, and I don't mind. I will wear glasses. I do like the look of glad. Like, I like what Taylor wears glasses. I think she looks beautiful on glasses. But I think that wearing glasses to go see a movie doesn't seem very fun. Those people who do wear glasses, having to wear a second set of glasses to go see a movie.
Yes. And then the. On top of that, you have the making of movies to make them look three d. And so the shots are rendered and shots are cinematography. The cinematographer behind it is made to make it come out of the screen. And then you just put yourself into a box where it's like, okay, we have to do these shots. Like, we watched Harold and Kumar's Christmas, which, first of all, is a stupid movie in the first place, but it was made to make it three D. And so the number of times things were thrown towards the camera or fallen towards the camera or whatever it may be, it's like, those were obviously shot so you'd be in the theaters going, oh.
And that, to me, is like, just changes the formula behind making a movie. And I think added an element was not necessary until they can make it. That we can just sit there and see it in three D.
And they don't gear movies towards three D. I think I still won't. Like they. Maybe people were buying 3d tv is for their house stuff. Like, screw you, just get a bigger tv.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Can you imagine being the person that bought one of those?
[00:37:15] Speaker A: Oh, God.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: This was the thing, like, by. By far, the, like, Avatar came out three D and was like, this very well done 3d movie. But then everything else is like, oh, we have a movie, let's throw 3d crap into it because it's so popular now and it's like just completely unnecessary and more often not, not well done. And I feel like going back and watching older movies. Is that era that specific, like little, what was it, like two to five year gap of movies that is like over and over again? You're like, that is solely for 3d person. That's all. This entire scene is pointless and is only here for trying to have the 3d effect.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: And it kind of, which is ridiculous.
[00:38:02] Speaker B: I don't know, spoils a whole.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: Spoils a whole like, era movies in summer.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: It's one of those things that like, okay, like for a while they were releasing movies on Blu ray and DVD and so on and so forth. One's high quality, one's less of a high quality, and so on and so forth. But like, when you start making things in three dimension and then trying to film in a way that like, oh, we're putting the money into making it 3d, so we might as well make some shots that people go, whoa. In the theater. And then it loses that because no one at home or not no one but the small majority of people, or sorry, minority of people had a 3d tv at home. And so it's like at that point now, what's the point? Like, you know, it's just stupid to hear something towards something that only 1% of the population has. And that's why for like the longest thing time, certain programs were made only for PC. It's because, like, okay, 90% of the world has PCs. So let's make a program that only works with PCs because I'm only losing 10%. And that's like one of those things that making a movie that only hits 99% of the world doesn't have a 3d tv at home. What's the point at this point? You know, I mean, like, I don't know. It maybe this because Avatar made so much freaking money that it was like, let's just, you follow there, you know?
But, you know, it's a different world for sure. Yes.
And he, maybe he now has the most.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: It gotta be fun to go out and find one of those old 3d tvs and watch something on it now.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: I'd probably get sick, Paul.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Probably. Yeah, I imagine probably nauseating. Like, oh, this is choppy and bad.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: Well, thank God they got away from that. And now it's more. There's other, I honestly think the biggest thing to me is the 4d movie theaters, there's like ten or twelve of them in the country that I think it's still in three d. The shot, like, it's still in shot in 3d or the movies in 3D.
But there's the, like, smell of burnt rubber. If you're watching the Fast and Furious, you smell burnt rubber because the tire is spinning out and you have like, you're watching something that's like they're walking through the jungle and it's misty and there's misty and pumped in and, you know, they're at a barbecue and you smell the barbecue. That stuff would be awesome. I don't need the 3d part of it. But if you had this theaters of the bug life.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Disney did that.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Where you sat there and watched it and it had like all this, all these stink bug smell. There was a mist when they were going through and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that would be awesome.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: I think.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Crazy. I don't.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: Movie theaters in general, you don't need it in three D. I just think they're having that additional, like, sense of, like, being immersed in what you're watching. So, like, you know, Iron Man's creating his Iron man suit in the cave and you smell like, what welding would smell like. You know, like that kind of stuff would be kind of cool because I feel like you'd be like, oh, my gosh, this movie's amazing. It would get. The funny thing is, if you saw that movie like that, it would get like 40% better rating for you because you'd be like, oh, my God, this smelled so good in there.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Felt like I lived there. I don't know. There's some movies you do not want to smell.
[00:41:00] Speaker A: No, I was gonna say this.
I was like, what about, like, fat bastard from like, Austin Power? You'd be like, the whole spell thing feels like baloney or something like that. Like Brian Baloney.
But, you know, we're obviously got off track here a little bit about this movie, but maybe this movie is just so bad that it's just worth not talking about anymore.
And I feel bad because it's a disgust with it.
The funny thing is, to me, I'm always like, I don't want someone on a shoot on it because good.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: It's like almost harder because it's so meh, the movie.
[00:41:35] Speaker A: So, like, meh, we talked about this for book club, right? We've talked about the idea that, like, a really, really, really good book club. Yeah, really good book gets, you know, short book club because you're like, oh, that's good it's good. It's good. Yeah, every like to cool everybody, let's go home. And a bad, really bad book is like people like always shitting on it and trying to do this. And then the one in the middle is kind of like a. Yeah, it was good. I don't want to say anything great about it, but it wasn't that bad that I didn't want to say bad things about it. And the funny thing is, I'll give you my star rating right now. It's a one star book movie. Still for me. Like, this movie is not what it is, but I feel like there's so many people out there that would give it.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: I was wondering where you were going to come in on this.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: The funny thing is, because there's so many things, I actually looked it up. I actually, there's a movie I added to our list.
Max Steele.
Yeah, it's a superhero movie that came out.
It's, it was, it's a 2016.
It was made by Mattel for, to make basically sell toys. You know, I mean like Celto but yeah, it has Andy Garcia cartoons that.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: We sell the toys.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So this is a feature film. It's written by Christopher Yost, comic book writer Christopher Yost.
But it has the famed 0% Rotten Tomatoes score.
So there's like 25 movies in history that have had a 0% rotten Tomatoes score and this is one of them. And so I felt like we needed to watch that as one of the movies we watched because it is so bad. It was made for $10 million. I'm dollars. It only made 6.3 million. Like it didn't make the budget at all.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: But yeah, the fact that even 6.3 looks fairly impressive looking at the screenshots of this.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: But the thing about it is like Mark, a writer of this movie, a writer of this movie who also wrote the Arrowverse tv shows series, like some of them Percy Jackson and some of my favorite comic books. Like, you know, let's go last flight out. Mark Guggenheim wrote this Green Lantern movie. He's part of the writing team for this. The guy who rewrote it wrote contact the movie with what's his face, the Lincoln guy, Lincoln commercial guy, Matthew McConaughey.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: I've never seen contact apparently.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: And Jodie Foster's in it as well.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: God, oh God. I'm playing the trailer for Max Steel.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: And then he wrote Harry Potter. Order the Phoenix. So like the guy, like there's team that's on this movie to write this movie was a great all star. Team, if you think about it. Same thing with this Max Steel. Like, Christopher Yost is a wonderful writer, and then he just screwed it up somehow.
The other movies, Paul, hold on 0%. You go ahead and talk.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: All right, so you're, you're one star on this.
So I'm willing to bet you in 2011, I was probably, like, three stars. Like, yeah, it's, you know, it's not great, but it's not, it's not horrible. I think now I'm probably two stars. I don't know. Maybe the romance is gone.
I would go, I think I'm two stars on Green Lantern. Like, I don't even know that. I tell somebody they need to watch this movie, even, like, another Green Lantern fan, if they're like, oh, I love Green Lantern. I've never seen it be like, you probably don't need to.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Yes. So, yeah, one and a half stars between the two of us. I think that makes sense.
It's not, like I said, it's not a horrible movie. And I do think that if, like, if my son watched it at, like, age ten, it wouldn't bother him. It wouldn't be like, oh, my God, this one was horrible. It would just not be. It's not for the sophisticated comic book viewer nowadays.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: It's kind of not for anyone, to be honest with you. That's kind of the problem.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: Again, an hour and a half of Blake Lively, it's worth it.
So on this rotten tomatoes thing, so you've got hard kill that came out in 2020 with Bruce Willis.
It's a 0% run tomato score. We've gotti that came out in 2018 with John Travolta.
You've got Max steel.
You've got the ridiculous six with Adam Sandler.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: I vaguely recall that.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: So there's a bunch of on there. And basically it's that the has to have a mini minimum of 20 critic reviews, and not one of them has to be positive reviews. And that gives it a 0% rotten Tomatoes score.
And so there's like, I don't know, there's, like, probably 2025 on that list.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: Max Steel have the potential to be the worst movie we've watched?
[00:46:52] Speaker A: I would think so. I, Paul, you've watched the first half an hour, this Captain America movie we're doing next. So I, this chance that it's the worst movie we've ever seen. But I would think that the problem with Max Steel for us, Paul, is the fact that has zero expectations.
With zero expectations, we're going to have fun watching if that makes any sense. Like all the other movies, we at least have some expectations.
[00:47:13] Speaker B: I'm sort of looking forward to it sucking, honestly, I feel like this may.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Be one of the ones we need to do in person.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: Catch is gonna be right. Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
[00:47:23] Speaker A: All we gotta do. I got Queen City cinema club or something like that. And do it like any person.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Yeah. Hell, yeah. It's probably gonna need a beer to get through it.
I think some of it's gonna be the fact that it's modern enough that it doesn't get forgiveness and that they spent too much money to make it. Obviously, those are gonna be the things that are gonna, like, go against it right off the bat. So, like, this Captain America movie is horrible, and I'm excited to watch more of it and compare it to other 1990 movies and what else was out there.
But it's always gonna get probably at least a little bit of forgiveness from the fact that it was 1990 and it was what it was. You know what I mean? They didn't. Marvel wasn't big. There wasn't a lot for Marvel going at the time, so, like, they took a shot. Even though this has been horrible for 30 minutes so far, I can only imagine what the next hour is gonna be like.
[00:48:22] Speaker A: It's so bad.
I guess that there is some redeeming qualities to the fact that there is some, like, small things in there that we're gonna talk about when we talk, but it's just kind of funny that the movie is so bad. Like, I don't know, it was just one of those things that, like, all the other movies we watched, like, okay, we can get through this, so on and so forth. And I was expecting this to be bad. It's just. It's just way bad. It's really bad. And I'm glad that I watched, like, back to back with this Green Lantern, the same thing you'll do, because this made Green Lantern a little bit, like, worthwhile watch.
[00:48:56] Speaker B: I think that's gonna be another hard part of the Green Lantern, is it falls in the same category. It's. They spent a small fortune making this movie. I mean, they spend. They spend more money than I'll make in my lifetime making this movie, and it's, at best, years later. Methodology that's going to be, you know, that's the problem with the Green Lantern movie. Yeah. It doesn't get forgiveness for that fact. The fact they spent a $200 million making this movie versus the Captain America one. Like, they spent $12 and bought the cast lunch.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: Okay. Here we go. Ready for some reviews?
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: Here. I'm just. I'm gonna rat them all off, like, one or two at a time, and you'll get there on this. So.
What a tragedy.
I remember I was only about 50 minutes into this movie when I knew it was a one star rating.
An absolute dumpster fire. One of the worst things I've ever seen I would rather stab my eyes at with hot daggers before revisiting this atrocity of mankind.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: I love Ryan Reynolds and found this movie entertaining. I don't get what all the hate of this movie is about.
It's a spanish one, so a two out of ten spanish review I can't read because I don't know.
And then my favorite is just my eyes.
I will say, paul, that I give them credit on, calling out the fact that he's trying to disguise his identity with a freaking eye mask. And Blake Lively's character is still, like, how.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: I've known you forever, and you thought that was gonna disguise who you.
[00:50:51] Speaker A: Are, and the way you talk and the way you act and your mannerisms aren't gonna give it away that you're this guy, and I. And she also accepts it too easily, too. That's the other thing. It is complex, and we lived this life for a while, Paul, but she's just way too easy to get, like, oh, you're a superhero now. Cool.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah, you're an alien. And also, there's no mention of alien, like, life in this movie ever before. This is supposed to be their first encounter with aliens, and every person that he knows is just like, that adds up. Oh, dying alien gave you a ring. Now you have superpowers. Okay.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: Yeah, works. Works for me. And I will also give a credit.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Check this out.
[00:51:37] Speaker A: That the writing is good enough to the point where he had already slept with Blake Ladle's character, that it wasn't one of those things, that their relationship was budding, that it was already had. They've already gone that route, and they were in a relationship together, or they did, you know, mess around, and it wasn't this, like, oh, now that he's like, a superhero, I'm attracted to him kind of thing. It was like, they already did that, which is great. I didn't want to see the beginning of. We did kind of see the beginning of a love story, because obviously, some as kids, but, like, beginning of, like, a actual, like, mature love story we didn't get to see. You saw the, like, rebound of it, the. The romance of it in this movie, which I kind of liked. It was like, to me, was good or good writing in that sense. So maybe there's a little bit of that. Maybe this whole movie. This movie doesn't suck because of Ryan Reynolds. It's actually good because of Blake Lively. I don't know.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: So I think that's one of my things in the shop.
If people come in here and are, like, shitting on the Green Lantern movie, I defend it, like, hey, no, no, no. That movie's not that bad. But at the same time, I think if someone came in here and was like, oh, the greatest superhero movie of all time, Green Lantern, I'm like, all right, hold on here. Whoa. We got some problems.
[00:52:51] Speaker A: Well, I think it's the Finn and menace thing with Zack.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: I feel the same way. I'm a Star wars fan movie. I'm a Star wars fan, and I still think that it's stupid that he thinks it's the best one ever. Like, I just not the best one ever. I don't think it's. Again, I think it fits into kind of this category where, like, a. It's not the worst Star wars movie ever made, but it's also not the best one ever made. Kind of falls in that, like, eh, it's not that great, but, like, it's in the middle, and Zach's over here. Like, I would die. I would stab someone else in the eye with hot daggers to watch that movie again.
[00:53:26] Speaker B: I think the only redeeming quality that they managed to get for Phantom Menace is the fact that the other three new Disney movies suck that bad that now I can't decide where, which one I hate the most.
I still think I go Phantom Menace. I still think I hate Phantom Menace the most of all Star wars.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: Do you want to know the best thing and the best timing about watching this movie Green Lantern, is the fact that in limited locations across the country, in honor of Ryan Reynolds new movie coming out, showing this in theaters.
[00:54:14] Speaker B: It's awesome.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: Isn't it amazing?
I saw this because a fellow podcast on the interwebs out there, the comic couples counseling. The couples comic counseling. I'm gonna have to look it up because I don't want to. Comic couples. I think it's comic couples counseling.
Counseling.
Comic book couples counseling. There you go. They're great podcasts. They're wonderful podcasts. I just always read it and don't say it out loud that often. So I got confused on how to actually say it.
But they're a great podcast. They're also going to. They're watching. They're going to the theaters to see this, and they're doing this whole thing because of a similar reason why you had to watch this movie, you know, in honor of Ryan Reynolds. You know, watch the shitty Ryan Reynolds movies to get to the good ones. So I'm gonna go home tonight. I'm gonna watch Van Wilder.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: Great minds must think alike. If I was like, oh, I get to pick the movie. We gotta watch Green Lantern then.
[00:55:16] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
So I think. And it's a great issue. They wrote that too. Great minds think alike. Or like, it's kismet or something like that. And I was like, that makes sense on that, on that front, because I was like, oh, we're watching that, and we're talking about it. Discussing it too. But, yeah. So as we finish up here, aren't you? So it's one and a half star rating. If anybody wasn't paying attention.
My table's breaking.
[00:55:41] Speaker B: One and a half stars.
Sorry.
[00:55:45] Speaker A: DC never done this before.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: Oh, technical difficulties have arisen.
[00:55:53] Speaker A: Well, it's fine. I mean, it's just bothering me now, but it's like, I've never seen it do it this bad on this new table. I have to figure that out.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: But the people should see my setup now as I have upgraded everything. And I now have a microphone and a camera. And the camera is on top of an upside down short box. And to make it so my laptops level, that's on the lid. And then I have these little, small boxes that are perfect to lift the microphone up. And you're over here, like, with all this, like, professional equipment. Like, oh, man, I got an issue over here. Like, it's breaking.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Well, it's. Had it before. I had it. I got it actually been like, before I started recording. This is a long time ago. I had a corner desk here, a different desk here, and it was all particle board or, like, the whatever, fake wood stuff. This one at least has a metal frame to it. Yeah, the microphones attach to the metal frame, so it's actually helping. But that one snapped. Like, as I was getting ready to, like, discuss comics with someone, and I had to, like, lean the microphone on the table because the fact that it was, like, I was literally about to talk to someone that I could not reschedule, and I was just like, we're doing this. We're going for it. Let's get this done. And so we won't have that issue here because it is a metal frame. It's just weird how it's. I never had that happen. Before I have Nova holding it up.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: There like Nova, don't move. Next hour.
[00:57:05] Speaker A: So out of the Ryan Reynolds movies that are out there, I don't. I don't know. I'd rather watch the proposal than this movie. So there's that for you.
And, you know, I think you all should watch Van Wilder.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: I guess I'd have to watch again.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: Van Wilder's great. Is it also Lampoons movie from 2006? No, 2002 features Cal Pen, which is the second time I mentioned Harold and Kumar character on this podcast today.
It has terror Reid.
So you know, famous terror Reed. And he's a. It's about being at a college. It's. It's a stupid national Lampoons college movie that made probably profited better than this movie did. It was made for $5 million and brought in almost 40.
So that's a $35 million increasement. This is only $20 million gross profit side.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: They did better on that than they did on the Green Lantern.
Friends.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Or waiting.
[00:58:22] Speaker B: Yeah, just friends. Yeah. Or waiting. I would much rather watch just friends for a route Reynolds movie than to rewatch the Green Lantern.
[00:58:30] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah. That movie just friends and waiting came out the same year, actually, as he did his remake of the Amityville horror as well.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:58:41] Speaker A: Oh, even better.
[00:58:43] Speaker B: I'm not a huge horror movie fan. That movie was creepy as hell. That wasn't bad.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: It was third reference to Harold a Kumar. You ready?
He was a. Ryan Reynolds was a male nurse and Howard Kumar go to White Castle.
So he's actually in a herald.
[00:58:59] Speaker B: I watched that. Like, I think I watched that movie when it came out, like. Like when it was released on VHs DVD release. And I watched it then was like, I don't get it. Like, I just did not understand the interest.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: Okay, so my favorite Ryan Reynolds movie is probably. I mean, it's gotta be Deadpool. Okay.
After that, it actually might be Detective Pikachu.
[00:59:29] Speaker B: Oh, he is great. Detective Pikachu. Yep. That's fair.
[00:59:33] Speaker A: So it might be. That is two best movies out there are Marvel or a Marvel movie and a Pokemon movie, which is like, you know what?
[00:59:39] Speaker B: You're.
[00:59:39] Speaker A: It's right up your alley there, Paul. People can go shop for Marvel stuff and Pokemon stuff, like the comics.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: It's like the two biggest galactic comic entities, practically.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Ryan Reynolds is actually a wonderful actor, and we are very happy that he is doing Deadpool and Deadpool three, which comes out this summer. We're excited for that. If you want to gear up, it makes it even better to watch really shitty Ryan Reynolds movies so that when you go to watch day four, it's that much better. That's what we're trying to tell you right now.
Yeah.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: So much better.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: One and a half stars or Green Lantern?
You probably, if you're a Green Lantern fan, you probably want to watch the animated stuff before you want to watch this stuff. But, you know, pop it in, watch it if you haven't seen it.
And watch this if you're fan of Blake Lively and Takeaway, TD and Michael Clark Duncan, again, another reason to watch this.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:39] Speaker A: I don't know if, why would, why you, do you want to put this in?
[01:00:42] Speaker B: You have a listing?
Well, no. Yeah, I can. I don't have any reason to watch it either. Do you have a listing of our reviews thus far? Like, I can look at other things. Right?
I want to have better than some other things before.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't have a listing right on me, but I can look it up really quickly while we're talking here. We can, we can just, we should have this sometime.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: We should like, try to, try to keep an ongoing to know.
[01:01:15] Speaker A: Exactly. Obviously, it wasn't Star wars movies.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: Got to be better than.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: Wasn'T Star wars.
[01:01:22] Speaker B: Definitely not up there with Dick Tracy.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: No. Doctor Strange was a two star.
Punisher was a three star.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: Oh, God. Doctor Strange is better than this.
[01:01:35] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: Wow.
I kind of feel bad now.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Okay, so Generation X, we gave a one star.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:01:48] Speaker A: And then we have, I'm just clicking on these things on the website, so it might take a second here. Howard the duck was two stars. Two and a half stars for killer clowns, man. Thing was a one star.
[01:02:00] Speaker B: Oh, killer clowns is awesome.
Killer clowns only got two and a half stars.
[01:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I think you gave it a three, three and a half or something like that. And I gave it a two. So it was like, yeah, that adds up. But, but I think it's different.
There's a scale on this, Paul. It's like. Yeah, it's like, it's like rating tv shows and movies in the same category, in my opinion, because it's, they're just different things. Like, this is a movie that is, would have been if this movie was made, obviously, special effects aside, because obviously you couldn't use the special effects you see in this movie. But if this movie was made at the same time as Generation X or as Punisher or as all those other ones, it probably would have gotten a zero star or probably gotten a four star. I'm sorry. The opposite would have gotten, like, way big. Big star. Because the story, but when it was made, I think has to do with the quality of the movie like everybody else was making. Pretty good quality. I get. I know you didn't like, I'm a bad big Thor fan, but I would definitely give it Thor better than this movie. And so. And you're a fan of the Thor. So that movie came out in the same year, so you have to kind of, like, show that into it.
Yes. And so you can't go into it and be like, this movie's amazing because it's better than all these other movies or whatever it may be. I think it's in the timing. It's. If you watch a movie that came out this year, there's different things that you're going to shit on or, like, because the fact that it's made with.
[01:03:22] Speaker B: Different technology levels, and I think that's fair. The fact that in our rating scale that this came out lower than Doctor Strange is a little sad.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: And to clarify for everybody who doesn't know, it's the Doctor Strange from 1978, this is not the Doctor Strange movie.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: We better strange.
[01:03:40] Speaker A: This is the really bad Doctor Strange.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: Actually, the original Doctor Strange movie with Benedict Cumberbatch is way better than this Green Lantern.
[01:03:49] Speaker A: It's just hard because, like I said, you get into. We get into throwing stars out. Hey, it's one star, three star, whatever. Maybe with a crappy movie. With a good movie, you have to start, like, thinking about it a lot more. Like, you have to be like, well, it's probably four and a half, 4.37. Like, you're, like, doing all these things with a bad movie. You're kind of like, yeah, one star. It wasn't that great. Half star wasn't that great. But we don't do zero stars. But there's a possibility we're gonna get to a movie like Max Steel or the Captain America 1990 movie. It starts to get to the point where, like, we have to put it at a half star, even though we both give it a zero star, because I don't do zero stars, but, like, it might be our first ever. We'll see. We'll get there, Paul. We'll get there. We're also gonna watch Catwoman, so that's also a possibility that probably see the same thing in that movie, Paul, where I would be like, hey, but we got to watch Halle Berry for an hour and a half.
[01:04:42] Speaker B: I don't know that it's gonna, like, still raise that movie up any, though.
[01:04:46] Speaker A: No, Blake Lively did raise this movie up. I will say that Catwoman. Probably not.
Yeah. So check that out. So, yeah, Paul Galacticomics, a collectible, says on Hammond street in Bangor, Maine. This doesn't come out before Galacticon, but Galacticon went wonderful, didn't it, Paul?
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Fingers crossed.
[01:05:13] Speaker A: But no, yeah, so you can check out galactic comics on Facebook, Instagram, all those things as well. But yeah, also, I just, I hope other people get to watch it. I was lucky enough to be a backer ball for room service, which is James Tinian and Elsa Chartier's new movie that came out on Kickstart as a short film called Room service that I got. I backed a couple of, like two years ago, a year and a half ago, and it finally came out because they did all the production of it all stuff. It's a, it's a unique and it's cool. You know, I gave it, I think, a three star, three and a half stars, because it was, it was, there was some stuff, obviously short films on a budget. You can't make a feature film, but there's some things that I'm like, eh, you probably could have picked different things or whatever. Otherwise it was cool. It's definitely for the minds of a comic book writer, you know. And so the idea that, like, they actually did a companion comic book that also came out with it as well, but they came out, this is the art book for it, if anybody's watching. It's called Room service. It's a book that has, like, it features like how they made the movie and so on and so forth in it. And it came with a poster and a thank you in a bookmark, but that was pretty cool. So that is a. I hope people get to see it. It's called Room service from James Tinian, the fourth, and also chartier, who are both comic book legends, in my opinion. So check that out for sure if you can, if you get a chance to. If it comes out, I think it's kind of wild. I don't think they would just do it just for Kickstarter. So at some point they'll probably do a wider release for people once people who are Kickstarters got a chance to watch it in the long run. But yeah, it's fun. Oh, Paul, also, I cheated on you.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[01:07:04] Speaker A: So bam opened in Bangor, Maine. The new bam.
They moved across the way and they did buy one, get. Buy one, get one half off on graphic novels, and I wasn't going to buy anything.
And that's walking through and just doing things. Did you end up getting this one? The tales from Hawkins, do you know.
[01:07:26] Speaker B: I don't think so. I was ordering a lot of them, and then, like, stranger things kind of fell, so probably not.
[01:07:33] Speaker A: I got a quote on the back of it.
Sweet. So now I got stranger things, and then I was going through, and I didn't realize that increase around the next round. I got a quote.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: Really?
Holy smokes. You ended up, like, having an entire bookshelf dedicated just to the poll quote.
[01:08:00] Speaker A: It's up to 15 in person. There's a couple more coming. But it was just kind of funny. I was like, oh, I'll get maybe. And then I was like, well, I gotta buy these. And I feel like I got a deal on them. And so I was like, I'll grab them here. And we were buying something else, too. But, yeah, I was laughing because I'm.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Like, necessarily would have bought for sure.
[01:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And so. And I got them for, like, nice $12 instead of. Instead of the, the 20 or whatever. They were $18 a piece, so. But, yeah, it's just kind of funny. I was like, oh, my quote wasn't on the back of my. Wouldn't have bought them for sure, but, yeah, it's kind of funny.
And now my boom is boom. One that's stranger things.
Like, come on, man.
[01:08:39] Speaker B: Like, yeah, stranger things. A big release. Yeah.
[01:08:41] Speaker A: There you go, Paul. Yeah, I think next. Next talk is Captain America from 1990.
[01:08:49] Speaker B: Oh, boy, I can't wait to spend another hour watching more of this movie.
[01:08:57] Speaker A: And then, I believe after that is going to be. I think our plan is to do a TMNT movie, which, again, will be one of those ones that. The first tmnt one, which Paul, Adam and I did in a couple of years ago, but I thought we'd revisit it. It's the 40th anniversary of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and so I thought it'd be kind of a fun discussion of doing that movie. Not the 40th anniversary of this movie, but 40th anniversary of the Turtles itself. And so I thought we discussed the movie itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And we'll do that, and then we'll do Catwoman after that.
Well, God, and then I'll be winners, I guess. Nope. We'll have some fun on that for sure. But, yeah, Paul, it's always been fun.
[01:09:41] Speaker B: Heck, yeah. Appreciate it.
[01:09:43] Speaker A: Hope this went well. I hope we actually recorded this, because this is a new software, and I hope it actually worked.
[01:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see when it's all said and done, how this actually even came out.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: We might have to go back about to do it all over again. Whatever.
Just kidding.
Thanks, Paul.
