#189: Isaac Goodhart and Tate Brombal // Horror Week

October 02, 2024 00:36:25
#189: Isaac Goodhart and Tate Brombal // Horror Week
Capes and Tights Podcast
#189: Isaac Goodhart and Tate Brombal // Horror Week

Oct 02 2024 | 00:36:25

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Justin Soderberg

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Continuing in Horror Week on the Capes and Tights Podcast, Justin Soderberg welcomes back comic book creators Isaac Goodhart and Tate Brombal to the show to discuss The Oddly Pedestrian Life of Christopher Chaos Halloween Special.

Brombal is a comic book writer based in Toronto, Canada. His comic series House of Slaughter at BOOM! Studios with artist Chris Shehan spun out of James Tynion IV & Werther Dell’Edera’s hit Something is Killing the Children and debuted in 2021. His Eisner-nominated mini-series Barbalien: Red Planet (Dark Horse) alongside Eisner-winning artist Gabriel Hernández Walta also released in 2021 as a part of Jeff Lemire and Dean Ormston’s Black Hammer universe. Tate's latest comic series Behold, Behemoth dropped from BOOM! Studios in November 2022.

Goodhart got his start in comics in 2014 as one of the winners of the Top Cow Talent Hunt. After drawing Artifacts #38, he moved on to illustrating Matt Hawkins’s Postal for 26 consecutive issues. He recently illustrated Under the Moon: A Catwoman Tale and Victor and Nora: A Gotham Love Story, written by Lauren Myracle and published by DC Comics.

Together Brombal and Goodhart have teamed up as writer and artist of James Tynion IV's The Oddly Pedestrian Life of Christopher Chaos. The first few issues of the series were originally released via The Empire of the Tiny Onion Substack, but has since been promoted to an on-going series at Dark Horse with it's 13th issue coming October 23, 2024.

The two join the podcast for horror week to discuss The Oddly Pedestrian Life of Christopher Chaos Halloween Special which hits stores on October 16.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast, right here on keepsand tights.com dot. I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by Galactic Comics and [email protected]. this is another horror week episode, with comic book creators Isaac Goodhart and Tate Brahmel rejoining the podcast once again to talk about the oddly pedestrian life of Christopher Chaos. But this time, the Halloween special coming out October 16 from Dark Horse Comics. Isaac is a previous top cow talent Huntley winner, as well as illustrated things like Postal under the Moon, a catwoman tale, Victor and Nora, our Gotham love story, as well as the regular ongoing series, the oddly pedestrian life of Christopher Chaos. Tate Brahmel is one of the creative forces behind a house of slaughter, as well as Barbara Barb, alien, Red Planet. Behold, behemoth, many more comics, as well as the oddly pedestrian life of Christopher Chaos. So this is a discussion about the Halloween special coming October 16 from Dark Horse comics with Tate Bramble and Isaac Goodhart. Enjoy, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. You know, this is a return to talk about a little the oddly pedestrian life of Christopher chaos. But Halloween, we're spooking it up. I mean, it's a horror story in itself, but like, we're spooking it up some more with making it a Halloween special. Huh? [00:01:21] Speaker B: That's why. [00:01:21] Speaker C: Totally. It'll be nice and spooky for the Halloween season. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Well, I love it because I've talked to other people for episodes recently with horror, and we're always like, horror itself is like, people always associate it with October or this time of year or whatever. And I'm always like, horror fans themselves or Halloween fans celebrate at 365 days a year. Let's be honest, there's no time of the year that horror fans want to read horror. We want to read it all the time. [00:01:48] Speaker C: Yeah. And like other books, other books will have their like Valentine's Day specials or they're like, whatever. Like a pride special. And we're like, nah, we're doing, we're doing the Halloween special. That'll be all right. [00:02:01] Speaker A: I love it too, because Dark Horse not only has this, but they did the headless Horseman thing. So like they're adding in this, this the pedestrian life of Christopher Chaos Halloween anthology. And you have the headless Horseman ones coming out. We back to back weeks, which is really cool. So any horror fans out there and dark words fans out there get like eleven stories technically, in like two different. [00:02:21] Speaker C: Comics yeah, Dark Horse is providing, which is great. [00:02:27] Speaker A: But, yeah, I mean, so we're, what, 13 episodes or 13 episodes? I'm talking about episodes based on podcast episodes, but 13 issues in as of October of Christopher Chaos now. And so there's an ingrained people have had it for over a year now. They've seen who Christopher Chaos is. They've known the characters and so on and so forth. Did that, does that go into creating something like this Halloween special, or is this basically like, trying to get some new readers and some people who maybe not know, like, do you need to have preconceived notion going into this Halloween special? I guess, Tate, you can jump on that for that question. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I don't think it's a very accessible issue because they're just kind of these vignettes, these short stories, an opportunity for us to, like, tell stories about, like, just give space for characters who might not have room for some of these stories within the main series. Because in the main series, it is a pretty big, like, supporting cast surrounding Christopher, but it's still very much like Christopher's story. So this was our opportunity to give, like, Geordi or Dracula Boy, like, his own story. Elias, who was introduced in issue six, who's like, this monster that works for the monster hunters, he's going to get a story. So it just gives us a chance to kind of shine the spotlight and tell cool stories with the characters and just show, like, what we love about them and really highlight just what makes them, like, badass characters. But then there's also, like, some of the stories are scarier. Some of them are more like, character driven, emotional stuff, but all of them are really cool and unique stories that anyone can pick up and just understand what we're saying with them. But, yeah, we're, like, really proud of it. Everyone rose to the occasion and was like, we want to make this special, so it's really cool. [00:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'll add also that I've been showing around my eight page story that I did with James to, like, everyone. Like, I think I sent it to, like, 400 people. Just don't. Don't tell James, please. But everyone that I've sent it to and who has read it, most of them haven't read the comic, the full comic. I've just been sending it to people because I'm so proud of it. And it's the thing that I'm most proud of that I've ever done. It's the most personal story that I've ever done. It's an idea that I brought to James, and then James, just as he always does, he knocked it out of the park. And so I've just been showing it to people. I keep going, like, look, this is, I made my father sit down and read it. He's never read the comment, but he was able to get the story, and he loved it. And everyone that I've shown it to has been, you know, really kind about, but no one's been lost. Everyone has been like, oh, I love this story, and I love Viv, and I love these characters. So, yeah, it's just a very relatable hours is a very relatable, quiet kind of character study. And then we've got, like, the big, bombastic action one that Nick did, and Nick Robles, our cover artist, is this gorgeous. It looks amazing. And Tate wrote several of them, and they're all amazing. Yeah. How many did you write, Tate? [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I wrote two. I did one that's like a Christopher Chaos and Adam story and then a second story that introduces a new monster into our universe, which is exciting. Yeah. Isaac did not mention that his story is the whole reason why this Halloween special exists, because he went to James and was like, I have an idea for a story. Or he also mentioned it to me. He's like, but I don't know where it could fit into the series. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:18] Speaker C: And James and I, like, loved this story idea so much, or just, like, how personal it was. We were like, what if we just do, like, a special of, like, these short stories? So, like, isaac is the reason this Halloween special exists, which is really cool. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:32] Speaker B: That was one of those, like, magic moments in comics that only happens when you're working with people that you're friends with. Right. Because the way that the genesis of all this was Tate, James, and I, and Nick, we were, we had, like, our mini launch tour for Christopher chaos, issue number one. And we spent a lot of time in the car and a lot of time in bars and a lot of time in hotels. And so we're just, like, talking, like, every night until, like, three, four in the morning, and we were talking about, like, really deeply personal, vulnerable stuff. And I remember we were driving back to New York from Boston. Right. Third eye comics and Annapolis. Annapolis. Thank you. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Annapolis. [00:07:20] Speaker B: And I'm just, like, thinking about these things that we're all talking about with each other, and I'm just, like, typing away my phone and my, like, little notepad. And so we get back to New York, and it's our last night before we're all going to fly back home. And I said to James, like, hey, can I just have, like, 30 minutes with you over coffee? And he said, yes. And Tate, this is very cool. Tate's flight got delayed, so Tate came too. And I pitched that idea to James. And James being. Because there's creative James and there's business James. Right. And so I pitched it to him, and James went, like, immediately, like, before even saying, I like the idea. He didn't even say that. He just said, the way that this is going to work is if it's in an annual, put it out on Halloween, just, like, started going down the list of, like, all the things that we're gonna do with it. I was like, oh, my God, I think this might be happening. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:17] Speaker B: And I also remember saying, too, like, when I do have comic book news, I usually share with my father first. Cause he read comics when he was a kid. He had, like, old John Romita, senior Spider man comics, and blah, blah, blah. And I remember telling him, like, if this doesn't happen, because for every comic book that's on shelves, there are a thousand comic ideas that didn't make it. Right. So every comic book is like a mini miracle. I remember saying to my dad, like, if this doesn't, like, actually see print or actually happen, it felt very validating to have, like, these two writers sit with me and be so receptive to the idea. And now here we are. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah. That's awesome to hear that, because it's also the first story, right. It's the first story in the, uh, special is your story, Isaac, right? No. So it's not. Sorry. Yours is. Yours is like, the third or fourth story. Yeah. Or second story. Yes. It was your. Yours, I believe, was a tate. Your story is the one that actually starts off the series. I read it. The whole thing is great. I do agree with you, both of you, that the. I'm, like, six issues behind. You know what I mean? So, like, to me, it's like one of those things. It's like trying to find time to read these. These issues. And I get to a point where I'm like, okay, now if I can read two or three, let's just wait till there's, like, five, and then I'll read all of those. I mean, I buy them month to month, but they try to catch up. But so, to me, I was like, okay, I understood this as a. As a fan of Christopher chaos and a reader of it, but not fully caught up, that this is a place that people could jump on if you liked the idea. Of the comic. Maybe you didn't pick up number one. Maybe you're waiting to buy the trade or whatever it may be, that you could jump on with this one issue and buy this one issue, get little, you know, vignettes of what it's like to be part of the. The chaos universe that it is. And I like that. And I think it's a pretty cool thing. I also think that it's. It's cool to see that there's, like, mult. You're not just like each character. It'd be weird to see an anthology like this of all these different single Christopher chaos stories. You mean, like, just solely, it's a Christopher chaos story, and then the next one's Christopher's at the mall and, you know, like, it would be a weird, because it would just be a bunch of mini issues involving Christopher chaos. This having, like, feature characters that are supportive cast to the whole thing is great. It would be like, I don't know, a Captain America story that's just literally Captain America stories over and over and over again. It's great to see it, maybe have some few featured characters in there instead. So, yeah, it's a great jumping on point, I think, to people who have missed Christopher Chaos, who just want to read something that has no real, you can know, background story, but if you don't know background stories, it's fine, because it's kind of hard when a series gets to 13 issues or 14 issues or 15 issues to jump on at issue 15, because at that point, there is some ground being laid. Yeah. [00:11:05] Speaker C: And I think that's what's cool about this Halloween special, because anyone can pick it up. It's a good taste test of Christopher, but also the whole universe and also each character. So if you connect with these stories, it's like the first volume is waiting for you at the comic shop or bookstore, and then our secondary, because, like, we're halfway through that, so it's easy to kind of jump right into that. Yeah, that's. That's the goal. And we also just wanted to tell. We just kind of show that we love every character in this book and give them the spotlight we think they deserve. And it was also, honestly, a chance to let everybody we work with, like, tell more stories and tell their own stories. Like, it's Nick Robles first story that he wrote and Drew, like, on his own Sue Lee, who did the artwork for my. For the Adam Frankenstein issues of the main series. Like, we gave her the Geordie story, and she got to write and draw her own story, and then having, like, James and Isaac do a story together, like, that was just, like, such a cool opportunity for us to, like, show the love to everyone in our creative team as well. And, like, let, like, it is like a family, and, like, we're all friends, and we all just, like, we all bring so much to the universe, so we wanted this to be, like, just allowing everybody to bring their love for these characters to stories too. [00:12:20] Speaker A: It's great to see the names that you see on a monthly basis on the front cover of Christopher Cass, but also seeing, like, Morgan beam artists like, that, the different characters, different artists that are part of this, and people telling stories, it gives people a little chance to play in the sandbox that maybe they normally wouldn't get to play in. [00:12:38] Speaker B: I mean, there. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker C: And then also introduce people. Morgan Beam, who is so incredibly talented. So I'm like, I just want to show off her artwork to everyone. Cause I'm like, you love her art. Go buy all of her comics. Cause she's so talented. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Well, I've been, like, such a huge fan of Morgan for so long. I have original art from Morgan hanging in our bedroom. Like, and it's been. We've had it since my wife and I were living in New Jersey. Like, I've just always loved her so much, and I didn't know. No one filled me in that she was doing a story for us. And then just, like, I saw the page, and it was incredible too. Tate actually sent it to me. I'm like, oh, my God. This is how the comic should look. You know, it was just so. [00:13:23] Speaker C: She's so perfect. [00:13:24] Speaker A: It's funny. This looks a lot like Morgan beam. It's really weird. I don't know why this leave. Who is this artist? [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah, but, like, you really do. It is just so thrilling. And we get to see this, like, with our covers every month, but different artists take on these characters and, yeah, I mean, it's just so, it's so cool that it all works, but we all have such very different styles. [00:13:52] Speaker A: That's a huge thing in these kind of things. And one of the things I actually talked about with David Smolcher and Leah Kilpatrick and Lucas Kettner about the Headless Horseman Halloween special thing that dark horse puts out is the fact that each story is a different style of art and from a different writer, and so you get your own take on. Like, it's obviously Christopher chaos. This story. You have to follow certain guidelines because you've created a universe here that you actually have to, like, abide by in a sense, but, like, the. Who's telling the story and who's illustrating the story and coloring a story is different in each one of these little stories. It gives you a little taste of little play or a little change up, change of pace a little bit in a way that people who are perfectionists and the fact that they want their series to look the same all the way through gives them, like, this isn't part of that. This is a separate special. That this is not issue 13.5. This is a separate special. So that we didn't screw with your stuff and now we have this ability to see these different interpretations or different styles of Christopher chaos and supporting casts. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:56] Speaker C: Like, the same way that. The same way that we've been seeing all of this, like, cover art of all these artists drawing the characters. This was the first time where I've seen, like, I've seen other writers write these characters. So it was just, like, really cool for me to see, like, what people connected to. With the character or what they brought to the page, what the dialogue was like. Because if you read James and Isaac's story, it is, like, very James Tyne in dialogue. Like, it's his classic. Like, kind of rambly, very naturalistic, but, like, always, like, thematically, like, perfect. And, like, they're always talking around the theme, but, like, and it just works so well. But, like, that dialogue style is so perfect for Viv, who, like, that's her story. So it was, like, really fun to, like, see James write Viv and then also flip it and write Adam how he writes Adam. And then same with, like, Sue Lee writing Geordie, who brought, like, the most angst to that story that I was like, I would not have written, like, a Geordie story like this, but it's, like, perfect. It's so angsty and, like, so teenage. Just, like, melodrama, just struggling. So it was really. It was really, really cool to see other writers take a shot at these characters. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Isaac, you probably speak to this a little bit too. Like, obviously you can't speak for James himself, but, like, the idea that he has is his baby. Like, in the sense that James is the one that originally came up with the idea of Christopher Cass. But obviously, through each episode, each issue that's come out twelve plus issues now or as of October, 12 issues or 13 issues that he hasn't scripted a bunch of issues. So it must have been fun to work with him on actually being able to write for these characters in the sense that he's actually writing scripts for you. [00:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was so cool because, like, here are these characters that he created, and he said, here, I'm giving this to you. Meaning Tate and myself and James just went, do whatever. Like, this is the idea, but now it's yours. And you guys go. And so then to have, like, james come back and go, all right, so you took it in this completely different direction. So now I'm jumping in. But that's a testament to, like, the fact that he really does respect us. And as creators, he never. He's never trying to, like, wedge us in or put us into a. Push us in a certain direction. He wanted to jump in and play in the sandbox, which is his term. I've heard him say that. He said, I want to play in the sandbox. I want to play with these characters and see what we can do and see what we can uncover. So that was kind of his approach and. Yeah, but, like, at the end of the day, we just wanted to, like, get some of our thoughts and feelings down and say it through these characters, and so we got to do that. [00:17:51] Speaker A: That's pretty. That's pretty awesome. I mean, the first issue of Christopher Chaos, you could tell there's a little bit of a thumbprint from James, is, you know, read the synopsis or the solicitation of. You can tell that it comes from someone like James. But now that I said, I'm six or seven issues in, and so by the time you get to that point in the book, you definitely can say the DNA is on you two and your cover artist, Nick. And like I said, other people who have worked on the book, but, like, the. The. You can tell that the DNA has now changed into more of a Tate bramble story and less of a James, which is awesome, in my opinion, because it makes. It makes it your own, even though, like I said, there's. The name is attached to it still. But, like, it's now a Tate bramble. Isaac, those are your book. Now it's your. It's your baby you can run with. [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:35] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, I think. I think that's what James wanted it to be. [00:18:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:41] Speaker C: Because this is one of those books and stories that he's had in the back of his mind for a while, just, like, the kernel of the idea, the title, and, like, that there was a Madden scientist who was a teenager in high school. So I think. And he has so many of these ideas, he knows he will probably never be able to write them all because there's only one of him in so many years and so many days. So I think he chose this story specifically, like, for us. Like, he trusted it with us, and it's still just as much like a part of James, but it's the fact that he, like, trusted with us and, like, allowed us to, like, make it our own because he didn't want us to make it like, a James 2.0 or, like, a James, like, yes, feel like a James book because, like, I wouldn't be able to do that. He knows that he wouldn't want me to try to, like, copy what he does. So I just. I feel, like, so privileged that he trusted it with us and wanted us to make it feel like a Tate and Isaac book, and it totally is. Like, the more I do think it's true, like, the more the. Each issue, the book becomes more and more itself, especially across that first arc. And part of it is because I was seeing what Isaac could do, and then me and Isaac were just getting to know each other better. So then I was, by issue four, three or four, I was, like, by then, just writing these scripts so totally for Isaac, like, knowing what he liked to draw, what he wanted to do, what little gags he would add into the background. So, yeah, it's totally become, like, a book that is fully our DNA, which is great, but then James is like the Godfather or grandfather above that. But, yeah, it's really special. It's cool. [00:20:21] Speaker A: It's true. I do think I actually use Christopher chaos in the basis of it being a James nugget that then is taken off by you two. Excuse me. In the long run to what I would hope, and I wish that the Walking Dead universe was, in a sense, that Robert Kirkman created this baby and has this universe. Then he ended the run of comic books. But I'm like, I feel like there's so much more to tell in that universe that just hire some people, like Tate Nysk, to take a story and run with it and be like, okay, my baby, but let someone else do, like, have a whole Negan side part. Or, I know I've had Jay Bond and Singh on the podcast who wrote the Walking Dead novels with Robert Kirkman for, like, the first four, but, like, take some of those stories and put them in a comic book, but have someone else of talent write it and just walk back and. And say, this is now someone else's baby. Don't interfere with the main universe, but have this secondary thing. And I honestly, views of, like, oh, like, Tate and Isaac have done with Christopher chaos because it was someone else's base, but then they ran him with it, and I said, that's what they could do. You could get so many talented people to just write stories in a universe that would sell, like, an instant. But so you guys are the basis for that. [00:21:27] Speaker B: James is doing that with the house of slaughter bugs, which is a part of that. That's exactly that. And those books are amazing. Yeah. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Because there is a talented thing. And again, with people who are creative director style minded, creating stories and things like that, there's only so much time. Like you mentioned, Tate, you can only write so much for comics and so on. And so having other people of talent take over your ideas makes sense, because they'll at least gonna get made at that point, and they're gonna get made by people who can do it, like yourselves. But, yeah, and that maybe is one of those things that, like, seeing a Morgan as an artist in one of these things gives it an opportunity in the future to take a story and do it themselves instead of having to be part of a Halloween special. But that was the cool, and again, that, to me, was the coolest thing, because that Morgan bean part of it all was the first story that you open up the book to. And so it's like, right off the bat, it's not the style of artwork that you're used to seeing when you flip open a Christopher chaos book. And so, to me, that was, like, as much as I like your work, Isaac, it's not. This is not a dig at you, but, like, the idea that having it be her, you know, a different style of artwork, I immediately go, this is a special, and I love it. That was cool. Yeah, it's a. And I found Morgan Bean was crashing with Matthew Klein. I don't know if you've read that book at all, but it was a phenomenal book from IDW a couple of years ago, and that's where I first fell, like, fell for the artwork of Morgan's, and now been a fan since then. So again, there's. I've read a couple books recently that had artists attached to them that I'm like, don't really, you know, it's pretty good book. But then the artist was hatched, like, ah, gotta read this book. And Morgan was one of them. When I flipped open this book originally, when Caitlin over at Dark Horse said it to me, I'm like, ah, yes, this is gonna be amazing. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just so cool that we've got everyone together on this, you know, and uh, and we're all, I think we're all like, similar ages. So we're all like, we were all coming up together, you know? And here's a fun fact that I don't know if every reader knows, but Sue Lee and I, before we had any work in comics, we worked at Dylan's candy Bar, which was this New York candy store. We both, after college, we were just like, I guess we'll just work retail for five years. So we saw, like, X Men first class together in theaters. Like. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Is that candy Bart play still, still around? [00:23:53] Speaker B: No. No, it's not. No. It's probably because sue and I left for comics. [00:23:58] Speaker A: I was gonna say, we gotta keep an eye on that shop because maybe there's some talent. It's like, it's a way that they, they farm out talented somehow. We don't know. Something in the candy bars is creating some talented creators. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. You're conspiracy minded. I like it. [00:24:12] Speaker C: It's great. [00:24:12] Speaker A: But, like, so this was fun as a whole. Like, you guys obviously have to create month to month issues, so there's a deadlines and trying to further the story there and so on and so forth. Obviously, this is an addition, right? Because this is coming out October 16, and the next issue comes out October 23. So this is not like you took a month off. And this is the filler comic. This is an additional Christopher Chaos book coming out in October. Was it fun? You mentioned it being fun, just in general, but is this something that you would want to do again? Obviously, we haven't even seen people buy it, so dark horse might say, no one bought it, so, no, you can't do it again. But if it sells well and does well, is this something that, something that you could become a tradition? [00:24:55] Speaker C: I would love that. That would be really cool. This was a fun addition. It was. I have a problem where, I don't know. I put a lot of work into everything. So even though it was only, like, eight page stories, the one from Morgan beam, actually, I wrote pretty quickly because it was just a sweet little story. I didn't want too much pressure on it. I just wanted it to be little, I don't know, six or seven year old Christopher and Adam. But my other story with Fernando Blanco, where we introduce our universe's the Bride. Like the Bride of Frankenstein, that story, I read an entire 600 page biography on Mary Shelley. And just to write those eight pages, that was, I read that, and then that story went through, like, three or four drafts. Like, I. It was the hardest story to write, but I, like, I'm just so happy with it. I, like, loved the research, and I love putting the work into it, and hopefully I want the character to come back, which is why, like, I knew it was an investment because I wanted the character to show up eventually in the main series. So it is a lot of extra work. We started working on this, like, a long time ago. Like, I don't even, like, maybe a year ago or a little bit less, like, in terms of me, like, planning the stories. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:20] Speaker C: So, yeah, a lot of work went into it, but I would love to do it again. It was. It's so worth it, just seeing the final thing and, like, seeing all these stories and, like, the artwork is so beautiful, and to get a chance to work with Fernando and Morgan Beam, which is crazy. So, like, I love. Because things like this, like, eight story pages. Eight page stories are easier to, like, slot into an artiste schedule sometimes. So I wouldn't be able to work with Fernando on, like, a full length issue, probably, or something longer, but I was like, we can get him, like, this eight page thing. Like, that's incredible. And his work is, like, so incredible in that short story, like, the atmosphere and everything. And his design for the bride is so. Just haunting. So it was really cool. It was all worth it, and I'm just so proud of it. [00:27:06] Speaker B: You want to know something? Is I think Tate is actually underplaying the amount of work that went into it, because, remember, I flew to New York, and then we convinced Tate to somehow fly to New York so that we could break the story together. And that was just like. We were just like, yeah, okay, that seems like a good idea. And so we all were, like, together figuring this thing out. And that was in April, actually. That was your birthday, right, Tate? [00:27:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:38] Speaker B: And we were all just, like, exhausted. We were, like, figuring this out, and I mean, but that was, like, so amazing, you know? But it was just crazy because. And I'm sure our editor, Greg, was, like, ripping his hair out because I was missing every deadline, but I was like, but this is important, Greg. But, yeah. And then. But now we have this thing that is so special. It's so special for so many reasons. And so to answer your question very succinctly, the answer is, yeah, absolutely. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Logistically, it's very difficult, but, yeah, I don't even have to think about it. Like, I would do it again so quickly. But, yeah, it was so much work. You know, the original plan for me was to do everything traditionally too. Like, all eight pages that I even tried, you know, so I have, like, 20 hours of work of me, like, trying to use a brush again for the first time in a decade. Hmm. And so I had to redo all those pages. So, you know, I mean, it was crazy, but we all got so ambitious. We were all just, like, juicing each other up and being like, oh, we're all bringing our a game to this. So, yeah, I mean, there's nothing like that. I've never done a project like that before. [00:28:56] Speaker A: That's phenomenal. And not to mention, you talk about interior artists. We also have two different cover artists on this as well. You have, obviously, the COVID beer by Jeff Leemeyer, which is, is phenomenal in that sense. You can all picture what it would look like if you haven't seen it. It's very Jeff style. And then David, is it, Talaski did the COVID a, which is phenomenal as well. So, you know, there's another two people. And then also there's, there's different things in the middle. Different pieces of artwork, pinups in the middle, too. I just had a frigging grasshopper lit land right on my desk and scared the shit out of me. I was like, what the hell is this right now? But no, the, there's the different pinups in each, in between each story, which is cool. I'm not going to go over all the artists on it, but there's different artists doing things, too, which is another interpretation of some of these characters you get to see. So if you're a huge Christopher Chaos fan, there's no reason why this shouldn't be in your poll box. Come, come new release day on October 16, because this is like, it is all the Christopher chaos that you could hope for and more because of the wide variety of stories that you're going to get. And this is pretty cool. It's not just a bunch of stories about Christopher Chaos, which, again, you could have done. It's not like it could have been someday. It would have been horrible. But I'm just saying, like, I like the idea that different characters in the world, it makes it more interesting and more fun, in my opinion. But, yeah, it's a, it's a Christopher Chaos style story. But if you're new, like we mentioned, to the, to the world of Christopher Chaos, the chaos that is, then this is a good place to meet some characters and figure some things out and then buy your first trade. And then is the second trade out yet, or is that. No, that's not out because you're doing. Is it. Is it six or seven issues per trade? [00:30:39] Speaker C: Yeah, we're mid arc, so. And we'll be. We'll be collecting those Adam stories separately eventually, because seven and eight were Adam to Adam two parter, and then nine to 15 will be the next one. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Yes, that's what it was. Okay. These are. These are larger trades on this. [00:31:05] Speaker C: Yeah, the first trade is thick. [00:31:07] Speaker A: Yes, it is. [00:31:08] Speaker C: Those were, like 32 page issues. [00:31:10] Speaker A: When you get. When I like, when you pull it in your pool box or whatever, I talk to my lcs. I'm like, yeah, can you pull that for me? And so on and so forth. And then you go. I go to. I actually grab it. I'm always like, what the hell is this thing? Because it's like you just forget how long it's been since the. Since the tradesmen. But yeah, see, I'm not shitting on your artwork, Isaac, there, because it does say it is absolutely stunning from capes and tight. So there is that there. So you can protect your house from a burglar with this. [00:31:42] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Boom. [00:31:46] Speaker A: Just came out with a RL Stein. Just came up with a single issue comic that was like. It's like. It's a single issue, but it's like a hundred pages long. It's like, square bound. So my buddy, he goes, okay, because I guess I'll just sell this as a trade to someone for $10 because it was long. But yeah, so this is a. These are great. And this is good because it's a. You could sit down and read the whole thing instead of having to, like, you know, I don't know. Oh, the COVID gallery. I didn't even see the COVID gallery. [00:32:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Get distracted here. The stupid cricket is still right there. It's going to get me. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Good luck with that. [00:32:27] Speaker A: I'm surprised I didn't hear it. It's a converted garage, so it's kind of hard to get people bugs. Not to get in here. But it's literally. It's going to attack me. But yeah. So this Christopher Chaos Halloween special, it drops October 16 at your comic book store. I think that everybody should grab it. I don't think there should be any questions. You should get it especially good. If you haven't introduced to this at all, this is a little just fun thing to get in the spirit of the Halloween, you know? I mean, it's not just, you know, maybe you don't pick everything else up. Whatever. I can't tell you how to spend your money, but this would be kind. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Of a cool one. [00:32:59] Speaker A: Off, you know, grab. It's $7. It's pretty cheap for what, the content you get in the actual book, but, yeah, the future of Christopher chaos. Now, we've, we're 13 issues in as of October 23, and you get two more solicited. I mean, you're going, right? You're keeping this going as long as you can, is that correct? [00:33:20] Speaker C: Yeah. With issue 15, we'll see the end of, like, our act one of what this series will be, and then after that, we will be, we'll be starting act two of the granddaddy, a story that will be Christopher chaos. Yeah. More information, I think, will be announced on that soon. But, yeah, act one is, Isaac is currently drawing issue 15. He's, like, almost through that. So then that will see the end of the current phase of Christopher chaos of this epic, and then we'll be starting the next phase soon, which is exciting. [00:34:01] Speaker A: It is very exciting because there, this ongoing part of a comic is a very, you know, rare. Well, I guess we're not in James's side of things, and James's name is attached to something. It does seem like the ongoing thing is there, but, but the ongoing part of comics right now is a very rare thing. It's mostly miniseries in one shots and things like that. So seeing this ongoing epic, it's pretty cool because, you know, they can just commit to it and have a longer story, which is awesome. So, and then, like I said, the two of you attached to this comic is absolutely wonderful because it's both stunning and, and I love reading it, so I have to get back to it. You know, I have a six month old who doesn't want to sleep right now and a three year old who doesn't want to sleep right now. And so now my, my reading has been, has been, uh, shrunken a little. [00:34:47] Speaker B: We all, we all have massive to reptiles. There's mine. [00:34:51] Speaker C: That's, yeah, that's wonderful. [00:34:55] Speaker A: I just love it. And I get these, like, cold solicitations from people who are like, hey, do you want to read this? I'm like, I do nothing. Can you have a reviewer something like six months from now? Because that's when you're on the sketch. And then, like I said, and then these things come up, and you get this special, and I'm like, oh, I want to read this now. So I'll read this now, and I guess I'll catch up on Christopher Chaos afterwards. But no, it's, Christopher Chaos is a wonderful story in general, but I think this holiday or Halloween special I should say is worth the glance for anybody who's interested in Christopher chaos because it's worth the read. And you guys, you guys nailed it. You knocked it out of the park, honestly, just like the rest of the series. But like, this is fun. It's a real fun one shot. [00:35:35] Speaker C: Cool. Thank you. [00:35:37] Speaker A: October 16, I believe is the date of your local comic book shop. And then if you're a big fan, you can grab the next issue of Christopher Chaos on October 23 at your local comic book shop as well. And yeah, I really appreciate both of you taking the time out of your day to discuss this Halloween specials over at Dark Horse. And best of luck to everything you both are doing in the world of comics. And personally, honestly, you two are great, great individuals. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Awesome. Thank you very much. [00:36:04] Speaker C: Thank you so much. Talk to you soon. Thanks for having us back.

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