Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to another episode of the Capes and Tights podcast right here on capesandites.com. I'm your host, Justin Soderberg. This episode we welcome back Paul Eaton, comic book retailer and owner of Galactic Comics and collectibles in Bangor, Maine, to discuss the 1989 Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie that actually a lot of people probably haven't seen because it never went to theaters and the dvd is hard to find and so on. But if you're interested in watching it before listening to this pause us head over to YouTube. I believe there's an option to watch it over there on YouTube, so check that out. If you've seen it or don't care and just want to listen to our review, check this episode out with Paul Eaton discussing the 1989 Punisher movie. But before you do, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, blue Sky, all those things, as well as rate, review, subscribe over on Apple and Spotify and all your major podcasting platforms. And if you do so, choose to watch the video portion of this, you can find it on our website or over at YouTube. On our YouTube channel, you can visit us on capesandights.com. But this is the episode discussing the 1989 Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie with Paul Eaton of Glad to comics and collectibles. Enjoy, everyone.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Whip.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Whiping in progress.
We're recording.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: It's such a half ass.
We were on this too much together. It's just like, whatever. We'll just get this thing going. Let's finish this, right?
Hey, Paul, did you pick up Antarctica volume one from Image Comics and Topcow comics?
[00:01:30] Speaker B: I sold out of Antarctica number one before I could get my own copy of it. But I'm excited.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: There's a nice little pull quote on the back with a four and a half out of five star rating from Capes and Tights podcast. So if you look at the shine on that thing, it is.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: It's nice. It's a beautiful cover.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: That wasn't planned, by the way. That was just happened to be right.
I haven't put my comics away from last week. They're here. I had a sick kid.
How was no a month? Great. Much better. Much better. He's sleeping through the night, too, which is one of those things that he regressed back when he was sick to not wanting to sleep by himself. The only way we can get him to sleep now is at the door open because he's like, I want the door open because I want to be able to hear you. And he's like, yelling at us, like, mama, dad, talk to each other. Because he wants to make sure we're still there. We're not leaving, dude. You're fine. You're okay.
But it is what it is. But he's doing much better.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Good.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: He made his second appearance on the podcast last week. His first appearance was when he was a wicked young. Now he's almost three, and he's doing that now.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: You told all us to enjoy.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Hey, Taylor had her another appointment today, and we get another ultrasound coming up here pretty soon. But we're getting close to our second child, too, which is going to be fun.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Holy smokes.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: To do. So I'll get no sleep. I already got no sleep. I'll get more no sleep.
I was just thinking, I was like, noah, get back. I want at least a week or two with actual normal sleep before I don't get to sleep again for a couple of months. Like, let's do this. And so he's listening. He's getting there.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: All right. Yeah. But for all of you out there who don't know, this is parenthood, folks.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly right.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: We could do an entire podcast on just being dads.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: I'm excited because eventually I'll be able to hopefully share some of the stuff that we talk about on here. Maybe one of these days he'll listen to some of these safer ones of the episodes with some of the safer guests. Maybe not the ones with Paul and I, but, like, with other people that he might want to. Want to listen to ours that bad.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: They might be.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: But one thing I will tell you that will not let him sleep is watching Punisher. If he watches the Punisher movie, he will not sleep.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: I seriously debated on having Charlie watch this with me, and I don't think that that would be a great idea. I don't know. She's hard. She's so mature. She read whale falls. She watches her own shows and stuff. So this might.
I watched it when I was five.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: It's a 1980s action movie. It's basically with wearing a costume to be a Marvel movie. You know, I. What mean, some of the kills in.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: It are pretty graphic, which, if you want to get into the Punisher. Right. That's what you want to, I guess, see? Right. That's him. That's Frank.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: Frank Castle right there. But, yeah. So we're here to talk about the Punisher, the 1989 film starring the one and the only Dolph Lundgren.
Yeah. It's just a great thing. What's funny about it is, too, is like, after watching it, I was like, who could have played the Punisher is now I always forget his name from Agents of SHIELD.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: I still haven't watched Baywatch.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: No Baywatch.
[00:04:36] Speaker B: Oh, David Hasselhoff.
[00:04:37] Speaker A: David Hasselhoff could have played the Punisher.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: It's better. This movie was better than that by far. But my point would be, is that it has the similar, I don't know.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: Weird feel to like they tried to make it comic book e. To a.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: Degree, yes, but not too much scenes.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: In it that are definitely made for comic book vibe.
I feel like a lot of the motorcycle scenes, him in the playhouse, him in the sewers, stuff like that look like they tried to make a set look like comic book. It's like the Tim Burton stuff.
You tried to make it look like.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: A comic book overall for the late 1980s.
I guess my big thing is, looking back when we would look at these movies that are not as great as some of the newer movies that have come out over the past few years, is why they decide to use certain characters. Why certain. I know some of it has to do with bankruptcies and selling off rights to pay bills and things like that. So there is certain reasons why certain characters get used. I mean, why Marvel didn't use certain characters. They just released the X Men animated show trailer, which is fantastic, if anybody hasn't seen that yet. It gave me such chills and nostalgic feel that this animated show is coming back on March 20. That's so pumped for it.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: But I got watching the Punisher from my nostalgia feel.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: But they had to pick these characters. And I feel like the Punisher is a character that is approachable to all people who like action movies because you can understand them. The story is not new. No.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: If you're trying to just make an 80s action movie, which action movies were huge, then you're talking about, like, die hard and lethal weapon and all these other action movies that were enormous, then why not make the Punisher this time? It makes perfect sense. Graphic violence, action movies, my favorite.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: That's all you need to do. I mean, there's no reason to. There's no superpowers that you need to put in here. And I'm surprised they didn't do something more on top of that. Literally, this movie, if you didn't tell someone it was a Marvel character, they wouldn't have known and they wouldn't have cared. No, it wouldn't have made a difference to people. And so part of me, I was thinking about this morning, putting around the house getting my coffee and stuff like that was, you know, me, I love my Marvel connected universe.
My big thing was back in early 2014, 2015, when there was a lot of that stuff, secret invasion, secret wars, all that stuff coming together. And in that time frame where I was reading Thor, and it was one angle of what you could see in secret invasion or in new Avengers, and I was like, this is so badass. This is amazing. I love that stuff. And then you get into the MCU, where a lot of the stuff is connected and so on and so forth. But watching this made me want which want more.
This is in the same universe, but not connected in a way that you have to see everything else. So Moon Knight, for an example, the tv show Moon Knight was like that. It was done in a way that we all know it exists in the MCU, but they didn't actually have, like, Captain America show up or Iron man show up or talk about this or talk about New York or talk about this.
It wasn't in your face or anything of encapsulated event. There is things that happen in the MCU that don't have to be talked about in the broader MCU. Like, we do things on our daily basis. Me and you. We see stuff. We say hi to. We don't talk about things that are going on in Chicago, so you don't have to. Just because it's existing in the same universe doesn't mean we have to have a conversation about it. And I feel sometimes they shoehorn that in. Sometimes they shoehorn that in Hulk, and, like, okay, they said the Hulk means it's in the MCU. Cool. We figured that out. And I wish they did more movies like this, which is like, it's another story. Howard the Duck movie, we talked about.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: We saw that.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: But, like, a new Howard the Duck movie is Howard the Duck. It's just a Howard the duck story, right? It doesn't have to be Howard the Duck meets Captain America. And so I wish there was more of that. So that's when me watching this was like, oh, I kind of like this idea that this is a movie about Punisher. I mean, even just about Punisher.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: I don't know what else you would have wrapped in for any other MCU stuff anyway.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: Obviously, they weren't thinking about that anyway.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Whatever. Yeah. So, I mean, they were all freestanding, and that was nice that this was freestanding.
I grew up watching this movie.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: I was three.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: This movie, honestly, we watched it again, and I watched it from. All right, let's do this outside perspective. Let's not have the nostalgia childhood glasses on. I personally think the Thomas Jane Punisher was the best Punisher movie, and I honestly think this is number two. And that includes the tv series. I'm not a huge fan of the tv series. I like this better. I think it nails some of the Punisher. I feel like watching what Dolph London does in this movie because the background, they change. Right? They say he's a cop. It doesn't go into being like a marine or anything.
I feel like just watching his training and the amount of these guys he takes out and his familiarity to all these weapons and stuff. He's probably more than a cop. They didn't have to say it, but he probably did some stuff before going to the police force. And I don't know. He's an imposing character the size of him.
Dolph Lunder did a pretty good job of nailing down the Punisher.
And the movie definitely has a little bit of corniness here and there and a little cheesiness here and there.
But overall, I feel like if you want to show someone what the Punisher is, this isn't a bad.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: No. Yeah. The casting you mentioned, Dolph ungrate. It's one of those early Marvel movies that we talked about, like the standalone because they obviously weren't interconnected. And more like, this studio is making one and this studio is making another of the best castings of all those movies that came out in the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s.
We just talked about David Hasselhoff playing agent Nick Fury. The visual, looking at his original Nick fury. Okay, I can see that. Like, if you see the picture of. But then seeing him act. Yeah, but then if you want to hear, it's like, okay, I could actually picture Dolph Lundgren playing. He could have played Punisher for years to come. And I would have seen sequels of.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: This and he could have continued on.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: The one different thing, though, is, like, all I could pick after I was watching this. I was going, he just seems like this, obviously, his kids, he's acting on revenge. However, it did just see, like this, I don't know, goth, never, ever making any facial expressions at all. Not even like, he's always very monotoned. It was like this whole, like, didn't feel anything. And I was like, okay, I understand, but there's still supposed to be some sort of something to him going on. It's just like he'd have conversations and things like that. He'd be like, yeah, and so meet me back here tonight.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he was definitely very dry. I wonder if some of that was. I mean, he has an accent. I wonder if they were trying to, like, let's go as much without that as possible.
But I feel like they went for this idea that he was just out there killing criminals. That was his entire life. Besides that. He lives in a sewer, folks.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah, lives in a sewer. And he hangs out with Leonardo and the ninja Turtles.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Very nice sewer.
That's a pretty solidly nice looking sewer.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: The cheesy lines, though, like the 1980s action movies, too, are things where she's like, someone's like, we haven't been able to find him. And the woman goes, have you checked the sewers? I'm like, yeah. What if we looked.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: I've looked at every space near and above this city. Have you looked under.
Have you.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Have you seen. No, no. Have you checked the trees?
Obviously, he was mean.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: I guess pandas climbed them, right? Garrett's kind of panda ish.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: A big panda. Man, I just thinking, like, it's just was a funny, like, oh, my know, I felt like it's on the same level of when someone says the title of a movie in the movie or shortcuts to figure out how they figured out he was in the sewer. Like, shortcuts to say that by just saying, have we checked underneath the city? And now you don't have to do anything else but, like, oh, we should check underneath the city, and then goes to bed. You don't have to actually do any investigation on that side of it.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Logical side of it. This guy has hunted for him for years, and he's looked near every spot that these killings are taking place and this and that, and he always vanishes. Then I guess this is your logical explanation, right?
[00:13:15] Speaker A: But is he any good? If he had, someone else had to tell him to look in the.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: Partner, his former partner that's obsessed with finding him, that's obsessed with the fact that Frank Castle's alive and he's the punisher because everyone else thinks that Frank Castle's dead.
Yeah, you would think he might have gone to that route, you know, maybe not.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: That's dirty down there, Paul. It's wet. It's wet and dirty. I don't want to get dirty and wet. You kidding?
[00:13:43] Speaker B: Don't. I don't want to go wander around the sewer either.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: I just thought it was funny. I was like someone else had to tell you after all these.
[00:13:51] Speaker B: Yeah. As he's going on about all I got is a bunch of these shell casings and a whole bunch of these knives, and she's like, oh, did you ever look in the sewer?
[00:13:59] Speaker A: No.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: All right, so it has some plot.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: I'm afraid of the turtles. The ninja turtles are going to get me. That's why I didn't get there on there.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Maybe it needs a little help with the writing on the plot, but overall, the villain is bad, right?
These gangs and the mafia, and then what? The triad come in here? So you're getting into all these gangs and stuff, and it's perfect in the form of Punisher villains where it's just a bunch of crime bosses. It's a bunch of street level stuff. Frank doesn't deal a lot in superhero things. And also, I hate ones where it is.
I, I want to see if you're reading them. And I try to explain this. People that bring in Punisher collections sometimes and are like, it's usually like, I don't know what these are, but here's this whole bunch of Punisher comics. I know who Punisher is. I'm like, well, there isn't a lot of key books because he kills everybody he sees.
[00:14:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: You're not going to get a returning villain. You're not going to have a first appearance. If the guy comes back later because Frank kills him. That's his deal. That's what he does.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: So it's been a long time since I've read the first appearance of Punisher. Does he kill someone in the first appearance of Punisher? Do you know?
[00:15:01] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Good question.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: Is there a key book for his first kill?
[00:15:07] Speaker B: It was funny because he comes in as this assassin guy who's trying to kill Spiderman that the Jackal hires. Right.
And yeah, I think he just tries to kill Spiderman, but you don't really know what his deal is.
And I don't know that you get to know a whole lot about his deal until that miniseries.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: Okay. According to Marvel database on Fandom.com, he has killed 362 unknown criminals on.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Sounds accurate.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: And killed by Punisher off screen. 665 was his career lifetime kill, minus those already kind of for it looks.
[00:15:47] Speaker B: Like 665, which some of the books there, some of the heroes, depending on who they're talking to, look at him like a serial killer.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: When you see this, too, think about the people that, outside of mass shootings or mass suicides or these big things in the United States, when they mention numbers like, what, 100 and 2520, something like that in this movie, that's a lot of people to be killed. To kill and not be caught.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And I love his thing to it, right? They finally catch him. The police finally catch him, and they gobble like, what do you have to say for yourself? What do you call 125 murders in two years? And he goes, a good start. Work in progress.
Yeah.
That's the Punisher.
They nailed down the whole idea that this is his partner, this is like his connection to regular life, but to him, he's just gone. He's just dead. Frank Castle died. The Punisher was born the day that his family was murdered. And he is what he is. And I thought they did a great job of that. He is what he is. There's no stopping him. There's no reasoning with him. There's no, like, he's just going to get them. That's his entire deal. And I thought that was well done.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: Very well done. I think that's one of those things I think I love to stand up about this movie is the fact that it's a ground, street level movie with street level characters that have a little bit. It's not a superhero movie. It's not at all. Even though if you consider when you talk about generic, you don't look at a Punisher comic book on the shelf and be like, oh, that's not a superhero comic book. It's going to get lumped into superhero comic books because Punisher exists in the Marvel universe. But this is not a standalone in that sense, a standalone movie. And the other thing is, he didn't have his traditional outfit. Think about it. That's what's cool about it. That's one of those things. Like I mentioned, if you didn't say obviously it says the Punisher, they call him the Punisher. So they have that the movie is called Punisher. But if you just show this to someone who didn't know, they would just think it's a 1980s action movie. And that's what I loved about it. And that's one of those things that made me happy about it. And every action movie is literally just, I mean, people are going to villainize me probably for this, but John Wick one through four is the exact same movie over and over again. Just Keanu Reeves killing a bunch of people. Agree.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: With John Wick. I always said, like, 1980s, early 1990, Paul would have loved John Wick.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: I can't sit there and just watch him kill all these guys. I just don't care anymore.
It doesn't do it for me.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: Sorry.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: The Punisher in this one, I think the one thing they missed that could have hit the comic side and given you that Marvel feel was when the guy went to hand him body armor, Frank's just like, stares at it, and he's like, no. The guy's like, suit yourself. Is if he took the body armor and did the Punisher skull, and that would have been your. And that's the only reason Frank wears body armor is so that he stands a chance of killing more people, like, more criminals. And the reason he's got the big skull is for them to aim at the body armor. So that would have given you that whole thing, because the rest of it's right. He does not care.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: But what I loved about. So did you like the daredevil, the regular Daredevil series that was on Netflix?
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: The big thing I loved about that is the very first season. Spoiler alerts for anybody who hasn't seen this show that came out 15 years ago.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: It's been a while.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: It's been a while or ten years ago, whatever it was, that they didn't have a suit, they basically didn't call him Daredevil or any of that stuff until the very final episode of the first season, where they basically show him, like, getting into suit and getting into character, getting into that. The fact of the matter is, more.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Than just this black costume, if you.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: And I were to get superpowers, even superpowers tomorrow, those two characters that have just heightened senses and heightened abilities, because they've had you work that way, like Punisher and Daredevil. But if you and I got superpowers tomorrow, or I was the daredevil and you were Punisher, we wouldn't just immediately be like, I'm the Punisher. I'm daredevil, and I have a suit and all this stuff. It'd take you time. You'd be more like the show or the comic book series and show heroes, where you just have superpowers and you live your life and you use your superpowers and you save people and do all kinds of stuff, but you wouldn't have that. So I kind of respected that part about the Punisher movie where it was like, they could have done that whole movie and not even called him the Punisher, right? And I would have been fine about that until the very end because I'm like, okay, cool. They wouldn't have had that. However, it does seem like he was preexisting for a good amount of time prior to this movie starting. In that sense, they didn't start with this being an origin story. This was basically, he kills a whole.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: Bunch of guys in the beginning and that was another one of the things with the Punisher. This criminal gets off. This mafia mob boss, whatever he is, gets off on all charges. They can't make it stick, and the Punisher kills him anyways. The Punisher knows he's guilty, and it shows the court system failure and what he does. He is the balance to it.
And then they get into all the press know it's him, and they all zoom in, and then it kind of shows that he's been doing this for a bit. And then you start getting the flashbacks to what caused it. I thought that was sort of good, though, rather than the old Batman, Bruce Wayne walking down the alley. Every movie starts off, and you're like, oh, God, again, that's impressive.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: That's impressive to me. 1989, someone was thinking, we don't need to do an origin story in 1989. And that's one of those things that every time we got a new shower, a new Spiderman, new Spiderman, new Venom, new killing, new, this new bit by radioactive Spider. And they didn't do that in the Marvel universe, really, until they reintroduced Spiderman into the MCU, where they're just like, okay, you guys understand this?
[00:21:33] Speaker B: Batman just finally did it, too, with.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: The newest one, new Batman, Matt Reeves.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Batman, showing us the whole thing. And they still had a clip with it in there, which is what I don't mind.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: Go back flashback. I mean, they did that kind of with the whole pedaling the picture out of the wallet and saying, these two girls. It showed the reason why he does what he does and then his nightmares. And no one's really defending his physical actions, but they're not. Not defending it, if that makes any sense. Okay, he's killing bad. This is also different people. If anybody doesn't know the Punisher, this is not like Robin Hood, where Robin Hood robs the rich, gives to the poor. This is what Punisher thinks he's doing, in a sense, like he's helping the world by killing all these bad people, but it's still mass murder. Like, people.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: I don't even know if he cares that he's helping the world to a degree.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: These are bad people, and they need to go away.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Yeah. This is what he now sees.
It is a bit of a prevention thing. If he kills these guys, then this won't happen to someone else's family. Yeah, but in the meantime, I don't know. I think something snapped there. There's like a mental problem where something is just gone.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: You think something snapped there, folks.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: And I think you would get to a dangerous part with Frank Castle of, like, there's no crime. He's like, killing jaywalkers. You know what? He can't. He can't shut it. Like, I don't, like, would he ever stop?
Is that a potential, or is he just going to keep going?
[00:22:58] Speaker A: Yeah, there's enough bad people out there that he doesn't think. He just does, too.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: There's always going to be the one that fills the vacuum in there, that fills that void of, if he kills a big drug cartel, the next drug cartel comes in, he just starts killing.
Like, I'm a Punisher fan in the comics. I've read a lot of Punisher books. I think this did a good job of that idea that Frank is very true to the comics, that Frank is what he is, and he doesn't have a life. There isn't 8th, he's not Bruce Wayne during the day. I mean, this shows him living in the sewer. Sometimes he's living in a know. I imagine if you're walking past Frank down the street, he probably doesn't smell great. Showering is not something that's high on a thing unless it's to make sure that people can't smell him coming. But everything he does is to kill criminals. He kills criminals. He takes their weapons, so he has more weapons to kill more criminals. If he takes money from them, it's to buy stuff he needs so he can kill more criminals. Like, oh, I got to gas the van up because I'm going to another state because this guy got know, and that's just all he is and all he does. And there was a good comic series I read where he has this trigger moment where this mobster kills a wedding party, and they were sent to kill this one person, and they just went nuts. And Frank snaps and kills the bad guys that killed them and killed the mobsters that sent them and killed the people the mobsters worked with. And the book goes by really quick because most panels don't have anything to read besides the news articles that come on about like, oh, the Punisher has killed 27 people in 24 hours, or mobsters begging for their lives. And besides that, it's just Frank getting more and more beat up, like waking up in the morning and putting on the tv and going to the arsenal and taking out whatever's left when it starts. His arsenal is, like, fully loaded by the time he's done. He's, like, running out of stuff, but he just keeps going. And he's bandaged up his head, and he's bleeding from his hands. And I read it really quickly and then went, wow, that was a fast read. I went back through and looked. I'm like, well, that's why. And I actually really appreciated it. And I feel like this movie did a great job of that, nailing the essence of this character. Yeah, even the Thomas Jane one is a little too planned, revengeful thing where Thomas Jane does all this stuff to make the mobster turn on his own people.
And Dolph Lundren's Punisher would have just killed all of his own people and then killed the guy. Like, there isn't going to be this plot know, blackmailing and all this stuff that Thomas Jane's Punisher did. Dolph Lundrens is just going to mow them all over. And I feel like that's the Punisher.
It is what it is.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: And we talked about a little bit in the shop for a quick second about how the one reason why it's hard for me, because I don't think there's one Punisher in Punisher war zone that is suspect right out of the Punisher things. I don't think that this movie is great. And the funny thing about this movie, Paul, is that I don't think a lot of people have seen it. No, even Punisher. You're big Punisher fans. So here's the deal. So it was released in 1989, which is also. I was trying to figure this out. It's kind of funny. I kept on, every time I google it, you have to type in, like, Punisher 1989 because you need to get the right Punisher. And I'm thinking, I'm like, I'm treating this like Batman. Batman.
It's like, people all know Batman 1989 is Batman. Right? But it's kind of funny. I'm like, punisher 1989 completely on different levels. Like, not even the same movie.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: I am surprised. I would have thought this came out before 89, because I remember watching this when I rented it as a kid. And 89 Batman, I saw in theaters. Like, I was obsessed with 89 Batman. I'm surprised I didn't see this Punisher movie in theaters.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah, the reason why you didn't is because it wasn't released in theaters in the United States.
So the funny thing about this is it came out October 5 and 1989 around the world in every country, or basically every country, major country that sell, that shows movies in the theaters except for the United States, Sweden, and South Africa. It was slated to be released in August of 1989 in the United States. However, due to financial problems with new World Entertainment, the company that produced the movie and was distributing entertainment also.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Do they did Ninja Turtles in that?
[00:27:45] Speaker A: Possibly. I don't know, but they had some financial issues, so they couldn't actually do it, and so they ended up not doing that. And then it released on dvd in.
Where was it? Home media, 1991. It released on Laserdisc in direct to video vhs.
And then it finally premiered at the Escapism Film Festival in Durham, North Carolina, in 2008. So that was the first time it was on theater screens in the United States. Was 2008, technically. And then he showed the film again in 2009 to Dolph Lundgren at the New Beverly Theater, but it never actually released in the United States in theaters. And that was mainly because of financial issues with new world cinema.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: So that's why I never saw this movie in theaters. Interesting.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: It did make it on the vhs and laser disc. There is a laser disc at that.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: Agent as a kid, but all of.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Them, it did not be released in the United States. It was on a budget for $9 million. It boxed office for $30 million. So it made money for them.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: Made money. It's amazing that it made money and didn't get the opportunity to get the theater release, which, I mean, back then, nowadays, theater releases, I feel like, are kind of math. They're not as important because everybody streams everything anyways. But back then, your theater release was like a big deal. So it would be interesting to know what would have happened if that had actually gone in theaters. Would it have pulled more? Would it have been a bigger box office thing?
So, fun fact, I know of all action heroes, the one who has the most on screen kills is Dolph Lundren. And I'm thinking that this probably helped his numbers.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: A.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Chuck Norris, whatever. Dolph London kills an awful lot of bad dudes in this movie.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: I said, didn't shy away from killing or graphic violence, which is something unusual for a Marvel movie up until more recently, when they've decided to do some more r rated stuff. Lots of gunfighting action is obviously all there because it's a punisher movie.
There was actually some nudity, which, again, I don't to point out because I'm a creep, but because I like to point out, because this is a Marvel owned property. It's one of those weird things.
There was in the strip club. They went to that strip club, and he was in the strip club.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: Oh, and he started blowing that place all.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: But I just thought it was interesting to see a strip club be introduced into a Marvel movie is one of those weird things. That you wouldn't typically see or you don't typically see nowadays bashing through the window there.
And so it definitely had some more obscure things that you wouldn't see.
When he kills, the kids are playing and there's a bear.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the bear. Creepy, freaking creepy bear.
Basically, nanny's doing it there. And then the bad guys come to steal the kids.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: That was crazy. And the other one that I thought, oh, the kids, I'm sorry. I hate to do this and throw them under the bus. The kids in this movie sucked. They were horrible actors. Like, oh, my gosh, bad actors. And that's not to say anything, obviously. I say that in a way that I don't want to shoot on the kids. But in the same sense, there were really good actors who are kids.
They couldn't get them, were horrible. And I guess they just didn't put it into the budget. They didn't care.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: We didn't think that much of it realistically. Because the whole point of the kids were that they were the crime bosses children and that they get kidnapped and that the crime bosses don't know what to do about it. And then Frank has to solve it. And I feel like it gives you that little bit of like, oh, Frank still has the good guy, quote unquote side him because he comes for the kids and makes sure he gets them all safe.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: He probably kills bad guys every way that is humanly possible.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: Yes.
That's what's cool. It's cool about that, I guess. It's a fun movie to watch. You put it on action people. It's a 1989 movie. So they're going to get these special effects or whatever. Not special effects.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: Special effects aren't bad because the special effects aren't really.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: They're more practical effects than there are. Than any.
[00:32:03] Speaker B: Yeah, there isn't that much on it to ask of it.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: So this might be the best movie that they put out.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: You're an actual fan.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Watch this movie, new world pictures. I think the best movie they ever put out is this movie. Because the only other movie that I can even see on here that I even kind of understand and know is children of the corn from 1984.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: They did not put out the neutral movie then.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: No, because their last movie, this is the second to last movie they made as new world pictures. Obviously, they got purchased by someone else because that's how the world works, was die watching. It's the last movie they made in 1993. The Punisher is the second to last one.
And they made a movie called Warlock. Oh, Killer Tomatoes eats France.
Is that next to the list?
[00:32:46] Speaker B: Now add that to our list.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: We're going to watch new world picture movies. And they did some tv stuff, too.
They did a Zorro tv show.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Okay. A friend of mine does that. He loves these. Like, this one, full moon productions, this one specific horror movie filmmaking whatever. And they're all really corny.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: Do you want to know? They actually made in 19, 95, 96, they were the company behind the Mark Wahlberg show.
However, they did actually make the Fantastic Four, Iron man, and Spiderman animated shows of Fox ones. Like the Fantastic Four animated show.
They did make those. And they also made the incredible Hulk one as well. So they did some good animated stuff.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: Because that at this point, Marvel apparently was, like, under contract with them.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: With them. Yeah. But it just sucks because, like I said, this is another one. And a lot of times I post this. When we post this video or post this on the website, I click on. I click this thing. You can watch the video. It's not possible. I think you can watch it on YouTube. We were able to get a copy of it, but I think it might be available to streamed full on YouTube.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: Which I don't own this on dvd. I don't think I have a Blu ray copy, but I own a dvd copy.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: I don't think they have a Blu ray copy. I think it is available on Blu ray because you can't buy it on Amazon or anything like that right now. So it looks like a guy put the Dolph Linger in 1989, Punisher on YouTube. So if you are interested in watching it, you can watch it on YouTube. Did you notice the opening credits reminded me a lot of a James Bond movie.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: Like a mystery thriller, like spy thriller.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: That was going in there shooting the thing.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: But then there's like this circle.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: The rings. Yeah, these rings of showing, like, I don't know. I don't even know what the hell they were.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: I almost thought it was like, maybe we're going to see Bullseye. Like, what's going on here?
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it would have been a good tie in to bring bullseye into the.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Movie, but it was kind of funny. I'm watching, I'm like, wait, is this the right movie? Yeah.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: And he's got that giant rifle that like m 60 or whatever, and he blasts the thing.
Yeah. The beginning of it felt like an old 70s action movie, like Dirty Harry style or Bond movies. Definitely. They definitely pulled that straight from there.
[00:35:02] Speaker A: He did have the skull on his jacket.
I just realized that it may not have been made in the movie, because the picture they had, one of the pictures they have online of the promotional pictures on the left breast pocket area is his skull.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Okay.
The only thing I remember seeing specifically was the skull on the knives, like he always has when he kills these guys. And there's always, like, one of these knives left behind, like his calling card, which you would think you would just hunt down the knife manufacturer on this, because how many knife manufacturers are filling orders for hundreds of knives on the end of them? They're all the same.
[00:35:39] Speaker A: This is the 80s, Paul. They didn't have the technology to do it then.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: I mean, you know what? That's true. That's true. Actually get on the Internet and check into it.
You would have been going through, what, like, merchandise catalogs and checking out all of these weapons stores or whatever, like military supply places in New York, trying to figure out where the hell he was getting all these knives from. That's true.
[00:36:02] Speaker A: So I think, to be honest, this is on par with me to the tv show. I liked the tv show. I liked some aspects of the tv show. I liked the slow burn of the tv show. I liked that kind of thing. And I think maybe Punisher as a whole, his story is written for. It was a serialized comic book to start off with, obviously. So is it written for that style.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: Of tv show size of Punisher Warzone movie that I shut off about five minutes in?
[00:36:29] Speaker A: So Punisher Warzone is like, horrible. And then you have the tv show and this, and I still edge the fact that Punisher.
What's his face as Punisher. You just mentioned him.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Oh, Thomas Jane.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: Thomas Jane's Punisher. And it's mainly because I think his investment into the character, I think that's one of those main big things. Like, he wanted to play this character.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Really liked the character.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: He really liked playing it. I would love to see him in this multiverse. A badass it would be if he showed up in Deadpool.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Oh, my.
Killing. Killing Bad MCU creations. And then he showed up, he's like, you know what? You can.
Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: Guarantee you Thomas Jane would just be like, I'll be there.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: Just let me play the character again doing bad guys. And then Deadpool shows up.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: He's like, yeah, but the thing is that we did talk about this. It reminded me, and that's why I watched it again, was the fact that, let's be honest, though, John Travolta in this movie, that movie sucked.
No, it was horrible. And so that's where it comes into my effect. Do I like the tv show. Do I like this?
Know, the only one that's really bad, I think, is the Ray Stevenson Warzone one.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that was really bad. I don't love the casting on the Punisher tv series. I've gone through it with people in here that are upset when I say that I'm sorry. I don't like him as Punisher or as Frank Castle. I just don't see it.
I mean, Dolph Lundren, I think is the Punisher. When you see him in the comics and stuff, he's this big, intimidating.
Like if he doesn't have a gun or a knife or a crossbow, he's probably just going to kill him with bare hands because he is this jacked dude. That is terrifying. If you're in a back alley doing something and the Punisher walks up, you're definitely going to stop doing that and run like hell.
The average mugger or something. I would love to see that. That'd be a great scene in the comic of the Punisher, just walking through an alley and some mugger and he just wets himself and just runs.
[00:38:25] Speaker A: I don't want to do this. I don't want to hang out here. I don't want to do this anymore. So obviously I use a lot of letterbox. Letterbox.com. This is 2.7. So this movie is a 2.7 out of five. So if you do that calculation, that's what, a four point or 5.4 out of ten, which. Okay, I can see that. Whatever.
The Punisher.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Where did it go?
[00:38:50] Speaker A: I just had it.
The Punisher with Thomas Jane. 2.9 out of five. Punisher war zone.
2.7. Same thing. This is the same thing.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Not even close. That. Punisher war zone. All right. I guess to be fair, I would have to sit there and watch the whole freaking thing. Yeah, but I can tell you at my five minute mark in shutting it off, I'd give it like a one if that.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Oh, Paul.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: God almighty.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: What's funny about this is the highest rated Punisher movie out there is dirty laundry.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Oh, the dirty laundry is great for people who don't know.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, 3.5 or three point. I just saw it. Where'd it go? It's on here. It's on this, on letterbox. It's a 3.5 out of five.
It's a short film. It was created by Thomas Jane. Ron Perman's in it. It's a great short film that is available on YouTube that you can watch it. But yeah, it's kind of funny how? That's not even an actual official Punisher movie. No.
[00:40:05] Speaker B: Thomas Jane made it himself because he loves being the Punisher.
[00:40:08] Speaker A: And it's the highest rated Punisher movie, which is pretty funny.
[00:40:11] Speaker B: It's really good. People that don't know go check out dirty laundry on YouTube with the Punisher.
[00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: Excellent.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: The Punisher tv series on never even.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Fires a gun in it.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: IMDb has the Punisher tv series as an eight and a half out of ten, just so you know.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's more than I would give it personally.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: I know Rotten Tomatoes has it as a 65%, so 6.5 out of ten.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: All right.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: That'S your spread of Punisher movies. And so here's. I guess the question is, this movie was awesome. This started off, this is the first Punisher movie there was, and we ended up having three more or two more, a short film and a tv show come out after this.
The war zone is not good, but as a lifetime of a character, I don't think that Punisher is as bad as some of the other characters that we've seen, like Fantastic Four or Ghost Rider.
Some people have just not had the Ghost Rider.
Electra kind of redeemed yourself in the.
[00:41:20] Speaker B: Tv shows that Electra was good, but the Jennifer Gardner Electra, this is one.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: Of those solo characters that just hasn't had. I mean, the Hulk has had a crappy, crappy, crappy movie, but it stood the test of time. And I think it's because Punisher is a uncomplicated character to do.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: Yeah, there is.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Needs revenge and he kills a bunch of people, and that's the entire story. You can do whatever you want around it.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: This isn't revenge, it's punishment. Okay, I had that shirt back in.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: The day, but you know what I mean. It's this idea that there's not much else going on. There's not a big depth of it.
He's pissed that his kids are not alive anymore and he's just enacting revenge on.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: So in the comics, you found out that with Punisher born, you found out that this all started with his time at war and that chances are he was probably going to snap anyway. Yeah, that was the final thing when his family was murdered in front of him. But chances are he was probably going to start heading this route.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: The only bad way is to tell a bad story or bad casting. And I think that this movie kicked off a pretty good lifetime so far for the Punisher on screen. And Dolph Lundgren kicked butt at it. Literally, and I think set up the future for it. And then Thomas Jane came in there and kicked some butt and did all this stuff. And then there was a little bit of a. With Ray Stevenson movie. And then again, whether you like it or not, it was well made and well done. I think that the tv show is there. So where's the future lie? Do we get more Punisher or do we not now? Because the whole pushback on the Punisher logos and all this other stuff going on there.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Right?
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I know supposedly he's going to show up in the Daredevil tv show, right? But I don't know, is this, like.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: I think the Punisher character either way, because if you're for him or against him, you know what I mean? You have the people out there that are not going to want to see the Punisher, but are still going to want to see what happens with him. And you can look at it and say he's doing what needs to be done, that justice can't be served. Or you can look at that he is a monster and a serial killer. But either way, he's interesting. Like, either way, you want to see what's going on.
[00:43:40] Speaker A: After having these three early movies, the tv shows, so on and so forth, is there enough want and need for a full feature film or some sort of, like, tv series by himself, or you think this is basically just part of Daredevil, part of Echo?
[00:43:53] Speaker B: I think he'll probably pop up here and there. Yeah. I'd be surprised if he gets his own movie, especially where now in the MCU, we have the Punisher. We all know what his deal is. We all know what's going on. So there isn't really much of a story to tell, per se. I don't see them bothering to write in a whole thing to make a new Punisher movie. This personal opinion, I'd be very surprised. But adding him on as a side character here, there, and elsewhere. Why not?
[00:44:20] Speaker A: I think it's being there because I think because there isn't so much complexity to him.
I think some people would be afraid to. Honestly, though, with Marvel Cinematic Universe over the years and their ability to take a superhero movie and put a subgenre to it, meaning that ant man's a heist movie, and you've got, like, guardians of the Galaxy being more comedy, and you have these movies that are like superhero movies, but that's the secondary genre to the fact that we're making a heist movie that's based around superheroes. And so you could technically take someone like the Punisher and be like, no, we're going to make a badass Jason Statham style to make like a big action movie.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: You want to make a huge action.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: Movie, the John Wick of the MCU, and just bring in Punisher.
[00:45:00] Speaker B: You got the Punisher and you got Deadpool.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: That would be a great movie. Deadpool, Wolverine, and then the sequel is Deadpool, Punisher. Are you kidding me right now? Let's watch that.
And again, it'd be the same similar premise.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: Talk about the chaos of that, where Frank's just out there killing guys because that's what Frank does and we don't know what Deadpool's doing.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Just take a cookie cutter, just take Wolverine, Deadpool, and make the movie over again. But sub out Punisher and do the multiversal thing where he goes and finds Thomas Jane and he finds Ray Stevenson, he finds Dolph Rungren and does all these finds whatever. Which one's the best? Punisher. And bring him in and be like, that's the Punisher. That stays because I say so.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Right?
[00:45:40] Speaker A: But again, we've talked about this in the shop. Another character, Ryan Reynolds, or another actor who loves the character so much, wants to do it so well that he pushes for things and does.
[00:45:51] Speaker B: I would have personally just loved to see Thomas Jane continue being the know. And maybe that's some of my problem with the new one, too, is that.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: He'S not that old, but he's too old.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: Now he is.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: Now he is too old.
Man Punisher. Let's do a whole old band series. Old man Logan, old man punishers, all these things. Punishers. Like rolling on his motorized wheelchair, shooting people.
But yeah, I think, what do we rate these at?
[00:46:16] Speaker B: Five stars? Is that what we do?
[00:46:17] Speaker A: Five stars?
[00:46:18] Speaker B: Five stars? Okay. So I'm going to be realistic. I'm going to try to eliminate my childhood nostalgia for action movies and how much I watched this as a kid.
I would go three five, I think on this, maybe three two five. You know what I mean? Like three and a quarter star.
I think anybody that likes action movies, anybody likes the Punisher, I think if you're looking for 90 minutes of entertainment, you got it.
Don't look for amazing depth, plot and otherwise. It's an 80s action movie, folks. It is what it is.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Three stars for me, and I think that is one of our higher movies we've ranked on here because the movie isn't all star, award winning movie. It's just a well made movie. It does definitely deviate so much from the source material, like, so far that some of these, when we get to watch the 1990 Captain America movie, it's like, that's going to be a big sticking point, I think, to us is the fact that they deviated so much from the original story that how can you even give this a star rating of five stars? Because even if the movie was well made, it's like, well, you deviated so far from the original source material with the main character. This isn't like some of these Marvel movies that come out now where a b character, a c character has a different gender or different whatever, and it's like, okay, they're not even the focus of the whole movie. The fact that Captain America, in this movie, when we go to watch this, is like a lawyer, and you're, wait a second. What just happened?
[00:47:48] Speaker B: So he served in World War II and then decided to go and defend.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: The country by defending people's innocence.
But no. And so with this, at least there is a deviation from the comic books, in a sense, but instead of making him in the military, they made him a cop. It's like, okay, how far of a deviation is that? There's certain things that obviously, there's not a perfect. This is not a one for one comic book into a movie.
[00:48:08] Speaker B: Even the Thomas Jane one, he was like a DEA agent or whatever, and there was, like, hints that something else had gone on. I think it's pretty obvious with the amount of weapon familiarity that he has and fighting skills he has, he is not just your average beat cop. I'm pretty sure that Dolph Lundren's punisher has done.
[00:48:30] Speaker A: I would not have wanted to be arrested by Dolph Lundgren, I'll tell you that right now. Well, he'd shoot first. You know that.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
Answering on that one. Yeah.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: You make it one mistake, and you're done.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Problem solved.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Three, three and a half. That makes sense. It makes sense in the fact that it's a really good movie right there. Yeah. And it's not one of those movies. You say that we didn't have much complaints, and that's one of those things that we talked about before outside of recording, was, like, one of the main reasons we liked watching some of the crappier movies in the pop culture zeitgeist is because the fact that we have more to talk about. But I actually think that for being a positive movie, I. We had a lot to talk about, which is pretty cool. On this movie, we didn't say, yeah, I liked it. You liked it? Cool. Because some of our book clubs are like that. The movies that were the books that we all like, are like, okay, that's cool. We're 50 minutes in. Everybody liked it. Really good.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: Books are like, well, we're done.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: No one's defending anything or fighting over anything because we're like, yeah, we agree with you. Shut up. Let's just talk the same thing with these.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: Yeah, like I said, it definitely has some cornball stuff in it. I think if you took Dolph Leonard's punisher and you put him in Gotham for 72 hours, you would just see him riding away from Gotham on his motorcycle. And the sun's coming up, and Gotham looks fine, and just like, everything's resolved.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Wait, there's daytime in Gotham?
[00:49:52] Speaker B: Like, Arkham's daytime in Gotham? They're trying to put Blackgate prison out.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: Over there, and there's no sun in Gotham. The sun doesn't exist in Gotham. I don't know what you're talking about.
[00:50:02] Speaker B: There's a guy out crossing out the Gotham population and rewriting it. And Frank's just driving away. He just got Dolphin on the bike.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: Batman. That's it.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: Just all of the criminals just done. Just done. Batman and his joker problem and his scarecrow problem and his two face problem.
Dolph wonder just cleared all.
[00:50:22] Speaker A: Yeah, so it was fun, and I think it was definitely worth watching. And I think that's one of those fun things that we throw on there. We're like, oh, this is cool. Excited to watch it. Paul, obviously, nostalgic wise, loved watching it. I loved watching it. I had actually never seen it before. This was really cool. Yeah, I was three. And then before the invention of the Internet and stuff like that, obviously was almost impossible to watch unless you owned it and it was hard to get and so on and so forth.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: You just asked me to borrow it.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:50:49] Speaker B: I owned it on VHS and then on dvd.
[00:50:53] Speaker A: So the next movie Paul and I are going to be recording and just doing is Dr. Strange from 1978. That'll be fun to do. Again. Another movie where I don't think anybody's ever seen it. We have. Neither one of us have seen it. This would be fun.
[00:51:03] Speaker B: You need me know what he first.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: Viewing and then right after that, honestly, a couple of episodes later, because of the way that the baby's coming and trying to get some episodes in and stuff like that will be Dick Tracy.
That will be a 1990s movie Dick Tracy. Because. Right. In April. The episode will come out in April. In April. The new Mad Cave Studios series Dick Tracy from Alex Segura and Michael Morissi is coming out, too.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: So we thought, I'm also excited for.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah, so we're excited for that.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: And a lot of the friends of galactic comics and Friends of the podcast have exclusive covers for that Dick Tracy coming out.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: So it'll be fun.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: I'm looking forward to watching Dick Tracy, and I loved it as a kid.
That's a movie I haven't seen in 20 years, if not more. So I'm looking forward to that. Now, I did a little research on this doctor Strange. It's actually got high reviews. I mean, granted, I don't think there's that many reviews, you know what I mean? But the five people that watched it liked it enough that reviews. So, I mean, I'm interested to see how you do Dr. Strange in 1978 and not make this look horrible.
This is going to be interesting. I'm sort of excited.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Yeah, me too.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: I never even knew this movie existed.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: But until then, you can visit Galactic Comics on Facebook, Instagram, all those things. Galacticomicsandcollectibles.com.
Yes. Go check out those. But yeah, I think we're done. I think we're ready. Got to rip and roll.
I've got to use the boys room, so we're going to sign off here quickly before I pee my pants. No. Thanks again, Paul. I appreciate it, as always. Again, check out galactic comicsandcollectibles.com for all the more information on that stuff over there. The new shirts that you've got going on over there as know, if you send a message, I'm sure he'll throw a request in for a new hat, too, if you want a hat and so on and so forth. So check that out. But until next time, Paul, thanks a bite.
