[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on capesandtights.com dot. I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This week is Star Wars Week. It's back with a vengeance here at the Capes and Tights
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Astites podcast yeah, this is episode four, talking with Paul Eaton of Galactic Comics and collectibles, discussing the movie that started it all back in 1977. Enjoy. Everyone in the galaxy far, far away.
Paul. Paul, I mean, has health frozen long ago? Has hell frozen over here? Are we, uh.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: You know, you're talking Star wars.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk three Star wars. So the best part, three different times, I'm gonna do Star wars.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: When we did the holiday special, myself and our friend Gibran Graham from the briar patch, we did the holiday special. You had told me specifically, like, when it came to the comic book shop, you're like, hi. I avoided doing.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: For taking that bullet for me.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: But it's just kind of funny. Cause I'm like, at least that point we both could have shit on it, right? To be more like, you know, I'm more of a fan and, you know. So what's your explain? I explained it to someone in the shop last week when I was in there. But, like, the way you explain it to customers when they come in, when they're like, oh, you must love Star wars. What's the reasoning? You don't hate Star wars, right?
[00:02:08] Speaker B: I don't hate Star Wars. I don't like Star wars as much as people assume. I like Star wars because I own a comic store. Now, I also was thinking of this this morning, and I think that goes a little bit to, like, any median that people are like, die hard fans of, like, because I like all of this stuff, right? I do all of this stuff. I read different things, I collect different things, but I am not, like, a crazy die hard of, like, any of this stuff, particularly. So if someone comes in and I'm like, oh, I read DC comics and I like Batman, and they start getting into this, like, deep dive of some crazy story arc I've never even heard of. Sorry, man, I got nothing. You want to get into the gathering lore? I don't have it. If you want to get into the deep dive of Star wars, I'm out. And honestly, I just.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: I didn't even watch Star wars until I was 1213, probably. I just had no interest in it. A friend of mine was a big Star wars fan, and he'd put it on and I'd go find something else to do.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I am a Star wars fan to the point where I enjoy the lore, the universe, the stuff. I am not a Star wars fan in the sense that, like, on May 4, I'm not, like, celebrating Star Wars. I have a Star. I have two Star Wars t shirts. I have one that my wife got me for last year's Star wars week when I was on the podcast. She's like, oh, it'd be nice to have a t shirt on the podcast that says, you know, and it's a Mosa moss Osley Eiseley Cantina.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: It looks like a key. It looks like I went to the cantina. And I like.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: I like things like that. Yeah.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: And I bought this hat a couple of years ago, uh, which is a, uh. I figure what the company is. What's the company again? I remember busted teas. It's basically supposed to look like, sort of like a natural, uh.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: Or.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Sorry. Uh, yeah, like a national park. National park. But it's Tatooine on it. And then I have the shirt that I'm wearing here. Actually wearing sweatshirts. It doesn't matter, but it's a. Support your local moisture farms.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: And so I have these, but they're mainly made. Again, I will wear them on Star wars day. I'll probably wear this green one to the shop for the May the fourth be with you. And so I have that love for it, and I love. I read the comics and so on I go. Not the kind of person where I'm like, I remember the day when I watched the first one. You mean like, you. You might have been twelve or 13 years old when you first watched it or whatever, but, like, I don't. There's people out there that we know and we're friends with who would be like, it was, you know, I was at a theater the day it came out, or I was, you know, in 8th grade. It was Friday, September 17.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: You know, all family that this is their Christmas tradition is watching all the Star wars through December. They watch all Star wars through Christmas and just try to find time to fit in Christmas movies. And I'm like, okay, that's. That's your jam, I guess.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: And if you're into Sci-Fi space movies, I do think this is one of the better ones. I will say that I am not a huge Star Trek fan. So there's that. I'm not a huge starship troopers and, you know, those kind of movies. So on the scheme of things, if I'm like, if I'm going to watch something Sci-Fi space related like this, it's going to be Star wars. Outside of that, though, I'm not into it. So it's like, it's weird how maybe it's because the world has, you know, forced me, if that makes any sense, to make it because it's such a popular thing that I just.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: It is like such a part of our standard culture now. I tried to think like, is there something I prefer over Star wars in this median? And I don't really. I guess I'm with you in the fact I don't really have anything I prefer more. They're all kind of. I will watch like the new Star Trek movies. I grew up watching Star Trek. I'll watch Star Wars. I don't have like a preference over any of them. Particularly, I think spaceballs is a far better movie.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: And you said that multiple times. And it makes some people laugh and make some people agree.
But also people that cringe. Die hard Star wars fans. Yeah, cringe and be upset about it. I will say that I am. Obviously the originals four, five and six, which is four. What we're mainly talking about here is.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Thank God for that.
[00:06:12] Speaker A: Is. Is the pinnacle of Star wars as there. As there is for movies. I will say the one that throws in there for me is rogue one is another one that came up more recently, but it fits into that pantheon.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: I thought Rogue one was a very good movie. I agree.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: And then you have some small things that are like highlights in the world. Some people like some of the video games, which are really good. And then the Clone wars tv show was a big thing for a lot of people, well made and so on.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: A lot of people I feel like are younger than me. That's like their favorite piece of Star wars stuff is the Clone wars. But I didn't it was. I don't even know how old I was when I came out. I was, like, probably a teenager or older than a teenager. So I never. I still haven't watched it. I watched a couple episodes, and it seems good, but.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: And so that stuff has been like, that's. I can understand that. To me, personally, I've been more of a fan of the idea that they're revisiting Star wars lore, pre Skywalker storyline. So, like, you have the high Republic stuff that's coming out now with. Spearheaded by Charles Soule and Dana Jose, older, and those guys, Kevin, Scott. That stuff, to me, is like, okay, I'm really into it right now. You can't see on the screen right now, but right now, I have my books. My Star wars high Republic novels are over here. I have Star wars comics over here. Those are the things that I'm really into now. I don't dislike the new movies. They're not my favorite. I'm still gonna pick three. But the thing is that there's nine of them. Right, Paul? Right. And similar to me, with even the Marvel Cinematic universe, like, there's 27. There's, like, 30. No, it's, like, over 30. Star MCU movies keep going. It's a lot of movies. I'm not gonna sit down every single time I go to watch one. Watch them all. I'm going to pick the ones that are the best. That are ones I like to watch the most. Right. So why wouldn't that same thing be happening with. With the Star wars movies? I don't hate?
[00:08:03] Speaker B: So you strictly watch phantom menace? Is that what you're telling me?
We know one person that does over and over again.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: But if I'm going to pick the Star wars movies, I'm going to go back and watch four or five and six, because that's where Star wars was the best, in my opinion. So I am just in a big. You know, I'll say this like I've said it multiple times to people. I'm just happy we live in a world that they make Star wars things, like good, bad, ugly. It's like someone's putting money into it, and you get to see it and see new stories.
You know, not every Stephen King books good. Yeah, he's a good author. You mean, like. So it's like one of those things that people are going to have some misses, and when you compare it to a new Hope, which we're talking about in Empire strikes back, all of them suck everything out there. This was the pinnacle of the movies, you know, me, like, so it's funny.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: Like, looking at my childhood. So Star wars came out with the seventies. I was born in the eighties, and I felt like.
Like kids older than me had him. And I don't even know how my friend got so big into Star wars because his parents weren't particularly into it and he doesn't have any older siblings, but for whatever reason, he got on the Star wars bus here.
But there was a good portion of the eighties that Star wars wasn't, like, a dominant thing in kids stuff. I don't remember there being toys still being made of it. There wasn't anything. And then when they reissued it in the early nineties, when it came back out on VHS and made a big push, I feel like that was when my generation started seeing more and more Star wars stuff. So I almost think that's some of the reason why I. Maybe I'm not just big into it as others is. It really wasn't around as much in my childhood. I don't think the cartoon was really still going. There wasn't. I think there was really anything particularly keeping Star wars going at that point.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: Well, we didn't have streaming. We didn't have.
[00:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: We didn't agree with that.
[00:09:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: So, like, it's like one of those things that, like, if you didn't see it in theaters and you didn't buy it on VHS, you didn't see it. I mean, like, you didn't. There wasn't like this, like, you know what? I'll give it a shot kind of thing. Like, if you're just stream on through streaming and it comes up as a recommended movie, you're like, I haven't seen that. You look over here, you know, whereas back then, it was like you had to, like, search it out. You had to go find it. You had to go rent it. You had to go whatever to go see it if you didn't see it in the theaters. And the same thing with anything on tv. So the Ewoks tv show came out in, in that time period, like the Star wars holiday special.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: That's right. Wasn't there the Ewoks cartoon series that was on when I was a kid? I think.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But the same thing. If you didn't see episode, you know, season one, episode one, you missed it. There's no, like, there wasn't.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: It was. It was gone.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: During the summer, it was always like, reruns of the Saturday morning cartoons. Yeah, yeah. It's funny. Like, it's. My uncle was like, my biggest influence in my nerd stuff as a kid, and I gotta have a conversation with him and ask why he didn't, like, try to push Star wars with me, because it probably would have. I mean, his action adventure, that was my whole jam.
Maybe he's just not a big Star wars fan. I know he's a big Star Trek guy, so I grew up with Star Trek and Doctor who and all that stuff, but it's surprising he didn't try to push Star wars for me.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Yeah, it was.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: This is something. Looking at it should have been right up my alley as a kid. I should have been, like, all on board, but I was busy with Gi Joe and Robocop, so, yes, Ghostbusters.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Not Ghostbusters too.
Star wars droids and Star wars ewoks came out in 85, so that would have been right around that time. But there's difference. They're really weird shows. Like, as this is, like, you may not like Star wars, but, like, if that's what you're into for Star wars is a way different. Like, it's just trippy. It's like, it certainly didn't have a very big push.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: It wasn't, like, massively, like, in the street. I don't think there's, like, a specific line of action figures that came out for them. And that was. I mean, the huge thing in the eighties, like, all cartoons were just pushed to get us to buy toys, so there wasn't, like, a lot of that stuff around.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: No, but there's a bunch of. There's some missteps and so on and so forth in the. The legacy of Star wars, and I think those are some of them, but, yeah, so, as a whole, you're not a huge Star wars fan. You'll watch them. It's not like you actively dislike them. Except we talked about this now, because the fact that so many Star wars you do that, it's starting to get to the point where you're like, no, I'm gonna start, like, I'm gonna actually start disliking them.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Actually, I'm actually starting to dislike Star.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Wars, but I have been a fan. I don't remember the first time I saw them. When I saw them, I was excited when I rewatched this one. There's these moments in it that are just like, oh, this is so cool. I think it also, as a 37 year old living in 2024, seeing what they were able to accomplish with a movie based in space in 1977, it was pretty cool that the practical effects they were able to do and the stuff they did over ILM, there was stuff that's pretty cool in that sense, that there's so many hokey looking Sci-Fi things that can.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: Oh, most of the Sci-Fi stuff for that era looks terrible. Star wars is definitely leaps above and beyond.
And they took the time to do it right, which is interesting that they really tried a lot of different things and new things, and they put the time into it, and it shows, like, absolutely hundred percent.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: It was George's baby. And he even in this documentary I was watching recently, it's called what did I call? Empire of Dreams. You get it on Disney. And they were talking about how the studios barely believed in him. And then his movie American Graffiti came out.
[00:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: And at the same, he had gotten the agreement to do it at Fox, but then the american graffiti came out before the contract came out and so on and so forth. And they did this whole back and forth thing, and he only was allowed to make one. But in his contract, he basically says, fine, don't give me any more points in the back in. Don't give me any more money. Personally, what I want is the rights to episodes, you know, five and six. I want the merchandising. I want all the stuff that they didn't care about because they didn't think it was going to be anything.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: They thought it was like this.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: This didn't even get, like, a national release.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Like, initially, it was released in, like, small theaters, hard to find. And then it, like, became this, like, huge, iconic thing. People waiting in lines, driving to random places to find it, to watch it.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: And so they really believe.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: Interesting. It's definitely interesting, like, the history of Star wars and how he believed in it. And, like, the actors didn't believe in it.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: No.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: Like, I remember seeing a thing with Harrison Ford, and he was like, I was just collecting the paycheck.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: This was like when they were filming it.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: So watching it, like, he's. He's great in it.
[00:14:29] Speaker A: But when they film a movie like this, they film it and they're like, what is going on? What is his vision? They don't see his vision.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Until they see a final cut and so on. So for the next year, Harrison Ford wasn't even considered for the role of Han Solo, because originally George Lucas wanted to use, basically, nobodies. He wanted to use fresh faces. He wanted to use all stuff. Harrison Ford was just in his movie American Graffiti. So the only reason Harrison Ford even got, you know, the taste of being in it was because he was in the readings for the people who were trying out for the roles. And he's like, hey, man, do you want to do me a favor? George Lucas is asking Harrison for, want to do me a favor? Sit here and read the sides so these, these actors can, can read their parts and so on and so forth. And, um, George Lucas was like, okay, this makes sense. This, this is the best part. This is, you know, Han Solo is this dude, and so on and so forth. And he got the role, which is pretty cool in that sense. So they were all supposed to be basically nobodies. I mean, um, Peter Mayhew just had to stand up because he was british. He's like, it was disrespectful for when the guy entered the room, he stood up and he just, George Lucas looked at him and goes, yeah, we got our chewbacca. He didn't even say anything to anybody just because he was tall and so on and so forth.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: So, I mean, you don't need a lot for Chewbacca, really. I'm assuming, like, all of the sounds are put in there as long as you can walk and hold this giant blaster rifle.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: It's, well, it's funny to see behind the scenes stuff, and I recommend watching this, people. It's two and a half hours. If you're a big Star wars fan, this is worth watching. But there's the moments where they show the scenes that are from a different angle. Like, another person's filming this. It's not the actual shot. It's like a behind the scenes camera. And they, uh, show Peter may he, like, in the, in Chewbacca's costume and so on and so forth. And he does just, all he does is go and doesn't actually say anything because they just know. We're just gonna add that in post afterwards. This is the weirdest thing, is all it is is just Chewbacca with his, his mouth open, and then it's nothing. But. Okay, so a new hope. Star Wars Episode one, or. Sorry about that, the first Star Wars. I hate that. But. So Star Wars Episode four, um, called a new Hope. So when it came out, it was just called Star wars. There wasn't anything attached to it when it was in theaters. The posters, all that said just Star wars. Because obviously, you don't put in the.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: First of a movie of something when nothing else existed and you didn't have.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: A way to even know if you're gonna get tell the story in five and six. Like, you don't even actually know that yet. So. But it came out in the theaters May 25, 1977, which goes on, I mean, next 2027, Paul, is the 50th anniversary of Star wars, which is pretty crazy. I'm guaranteed it's gonna be a big year over at Disney and Lucasfilm. I guarantee you there will find something.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: That doesn't have Star wars on it.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: I'm going to tell you right now, Paul, that I have never read the description of the movie ever.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: When I put it on my notes here, I copied it off the Internet and pasted it in there to read it for the first time here. I like it in the point, like, I read synopsis for comics, novels, or movies to get an idea of what they're going on. A lot of times, I'll just don't.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: Really need to read the.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: I know what it is. Just watch Star wars. Just watch.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: You know.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Luke Skywalker, which originally was gonna be called Starkiller. Just let you know. Luke Skywalker joins forces with a Jedi knight, a cocky pilot, a Wookiee, and two droids to save the galaxy from the empire's world destroying battle station, while also attempting to rescue Princess Leia from the mysterious Darth Vader.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: Very. The funny thing about when you read it, that if you don't know what it is, what the hell's a Wookiee?
[00:18:03] Speaker A: It's very unexciting. I mean, it's very.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not interesting at all.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: But it was written, directed by George Lucas. Obviously, people know that it starred Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Alec Guinness, Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, Peter Mayhew, David Prose, and, of course, the wonderful voice of James Earl Jones.
That's a fun one. And I don't want to get into too much of the history of it, but, like, David Prose was. Was hired to be it because of his figure, but he was scottish, and he sounded weird thing. So they ended up hiring James Earl Jones to voice Darth Vader because it sounded more probably the most iconic.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Like, yes, there is.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: You know, that the reason why he was hired is because, and this is funny because James Earl Jones even laughs about it now and talks about it when he talks about it. He wanted a darker voice. And what he meant by was more menacing, more deep, not more skin color, dark, because James Cheryl Jones happens to, you know, David Prose is white, and James Earl Jones happens to be black. But that wasn't what he meant. He wasn't like, I need a black voice. He's like, I need a darker voice. And it just happened to be during Gerald Jones which is pretty funny, which is. Which has always been a thing because, like, David's never been really invited to premieres and things.
He's basically shunned from the Star wars.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: And James O drones is Darth Vader.
[00:19:27] Speaker A: Which is funny because, Anthony, I'm assuming.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: There'S a lot of people out there that only know Darth Vader. Like, they probably think James Earl Jones.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Is dark in the suit. It's until he takes his mask off that he doesn't. People even see that, who he is.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm assuming there's, like, people out there that have no idea. You know, those people have seen Star wars, sort of. Sort of know it. This is that. Probably think that that's Vader.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I forget sometimes, like, you have to think about it when you're hiding, when he's behind a suit. It's like, why is there knocking on.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: The door during these things?
[00:19:56] Speaker A: It's like a Mandalorian. It's. It's, you know, you don't know who the Mandalorian is, the entire thing, because he wears his mask the entire time, and he has a voice that comes through a voice modulator. So it's like, it could be anybody, right?
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Kind of perfect for.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: For Disney, because in the same sense, if, like, your main actor backs out, you just replace him with another actor that sounds a little bit similar and uses a voice modulator, and you have to worry about.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: And there you go.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Precasting. But think about it. Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, and Peter Mayhew all were in costumes with voice changers or no voices, and get the respect that they deserve for being c three po r in Chewbacca. But for some reason, David has always been shit on. And I don't understand why that's weird. I mean, like, he just wears a suit just like the three other people I just mentioned.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: I never even realized, especially now we know someone who has a robotic remote control r, right. That why would there need to be. Why would Kenny Baker need to be in it, right?
[00:20:55] Speaker B: I mean, I guess back in the day, that wasn't really an option.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Probably correct. But if you think about. Think about your daughter's nowadays, they would.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: Probably think that someone's in it. Yeah. Kenny Baker's interview, you've seen the robotic one at shows and stuff, so they'm sure they would probably just assume that that's what art was.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: But Kenny Baker's interviewed.
He's put in documentarian documentaries. He's on red carpets, you know, so on and so forth. But David pros. Pros is like, no, see you later. Get out of here. And I think it was because at the very beginning, he had some sort of disdain for them and which I would too. I mean, this ended up being one of the most classic movies of all time. And he's like, in a suit. You never get to see him, and he doesn't get to actually speak.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Um, I can see that. But in the same sense, dude, there's people now who are, like, clamoring to be, you know, in the background in a stormtrooper outfit.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they would love to have no lines, no anything. Just be like, hey, that one, that one there. There's. There's 70 of them on screen, but that one's me.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: And nowadays, with the con circuit, how many people would be like, I was the third over on the fourth row back.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: Set up a table at your con and sign autographs and take pictures.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: The 8th Jawa to come off of the transport there. Yeah.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: And so, like, it's funny how that worked, but, yeah, it ended up being James Earl Jones as the iconic person in the mask of Darth Vader. And it was made for $11 million. It was originally supposed to make 8 million or made for 8 million. Ended up being eleven overall. This is a weird thing. That's what I hate about movies nowadays. It's made $775 million. Okay, that's kind of a false figure. Two reasons why, obviously, inflation. So when someone sees that now, they're like, oh, that's not crazy. I mean, people make movies, make that all the time. Well, back in 1977, that's a lot different. When movie tickets were $2 a ticket. Yeah, that's a lot of movie tickets. But really it's made $500 million. Even that is skewed because $235 million after that has been the 1997 re release in other releases since then. So, like, the movie itself. Yes. Has made money. They almost $800 million. But when it actually released in 1977 and only made 500 million. So $500 million, still crazy number of money for a movie back in 1977. But I always laughed at that. I'm like, that's not true.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: It was gonna bomb by people. It was assumed. It was nothing.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: I mean, I guess that's the case. I mean, it'd be like second printing. Is second printing of a number one issue considered still, right.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Does that still count as the first? Like, oh, we sold 2 million.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it's 2 million copies of number one, not including second printing.
I would think a rerelease in 1997 is a 20th anniversary is a secondary printing. So it's like, you know, that shouldn't count towards your overall money making on that movie.
The combined box office revenues of all films have equated $10 billion. Paul.
And you don't like Star wars.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: And I don't like Star wars.
Maybe that's why I don't like Star wars.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: No, we try not. We haven't done it in our reviews, mainly because we tend to review crappy movies. But, um, 19. So the movie is rated 93% by critics and 96% by fans and 8.6 on IMDb, which all highly rated movies like this is a movie that's respected and for well made movie and so on and so forth. Again, there is this polarization of either you're a fan or not.
It's that it's not like one of those things where you can watch, I don't know, love actually, it's not a movie where, like, everybody can watch it because, you know, some of these romance movies are like this. Like, you really have people who don't like it because they don't, like, shoot them up space movies.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. If you don't like Sci-Fi if you don't like action adventure, you probably just. This isn't your thing. And it's funny because I like those things, and this still isn't exactly my thing.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And I can't even.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: I think you're just trying to be different.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe that's my problem. Everyone else likes Star wars, therefore I don't. I don't know.
All right, so. So.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So I want to start with you saying, you do not say you run this, but, like, you're gonna have a lot more statements that I want to almost rebuttal to you in that. So I'm gonna have some things to say, too. But, like. And there's some. I actually have some. Some not say negative things, but some funny things to point out that. That I'm saying that still, that product, for me, as a fan, 100% rating down to that 96% rating, because there is a thing, some things that are just funny that are, like, why did they do that?
[00:25:18] Speaker B: Right. All right, so. So I watched this movie again, and I think this is the first time I've ever seen the, like, new release version with all the bonus and extras and all that stuff. And I have to tell you, in some respects, I I didn't really like a lot of the add on things. I know they tried to make scenes look busier. Right. They put, like, a lot of layovers and stuff on it. I'd actually prefer to not have that stuff and just watch the OG version from when I, you know, first saw it. Can you.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: Can you even see it? I mean, is it out there at all? Like, is there, like, even leg copies or something like that somewhere?
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Maybe? Like, I don't have my original VHS copies anymore. I got rid of those, and I don't.
I have to be on VHS. I don't know if the blue razor.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Be the new version. I'm sure Lucasfilms and Disney, like, burned all the copies to make sure.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: Right? I watched Disney. Plus, it's all the new versions, all.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: These extras and extras and just the special effects, like. Like Jabba the heart. Certain spots are, like, when he's. When they're going to the Millennium Falcon walking up there. That's a new special effect, because obviously, they didn't have that.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Jabba the hot wasn't in this movie originally at all.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: And so, like, there's that aspect of it and so on and so forth.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: All these, like, aliens put in the foreground where you're watching stuff in the background. And I just. I don't know. It's funny. I didn't. Not a fan of that, but so, so I had a few things while I was watching this. I was kind of making fun of while I was watching with my wife, first and foremost. And I think if you want. If you want the perfect things to point out what's wrong with these, go watch the family guy spoof of it because they call out so many things that's wrong.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Almost said to us, we should do a segment where we watch it, because that's not that long. It's like a half an hour for you. Yeah, we should have watched it on top of this. And maybe we can do that for episodes five and six. But it's kind of funny that, like, there is that aspect of it, but. But you can do that with every movie, Paul. Like, that's the thing. Every movie. I guarantee you that.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Harder on my side, because. Right. This is, like, so iconic, and there's nothing wrong with this movie. It's the greatest movie on earth, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, really? Well, let's start picking out a few things.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: So there's, like. I don't know, there's so much weird stuff here. Obi Wan doesn't remember the droids. Well, there's. There's now three movies where he hangs out with them the whole freaking time.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, he's just oh, and his name is old Ben. That's one of the biggest things.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah, he's really.
[00:27:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's Clark Kent with his glasses.
Yes, it's Clark Kent with his glasses.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: It's the fact you see glasses, a better disguise.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: You see half of friggin Bruce Wayne's face in a Batman suit. So it's like, it's not like people don't recognize this, but it's just kind of funny.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: It's like, I wonder if that's Vader's never been like, you know, we should probably hunt down my old master. I think he's out someplace. Yeah, yeah, just look Kenobi up in the database, and I'm sure he'll pop up somewhere.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: It's like, isn't there an episode of Family guy to speak of that? Where, like, they're like, at Peter's doing something inappropriate, and he's. They asked him his name, and he's like, he looks like he's being a Petor Griffin, damn it.
He's like, come up with an old name, old Ben. And here's the deal. So when he went into seclusion, this is gonna be a. People are gonna crucify me as a non star. Not a huge Star wars fan, but a Star wars fan is. How old was he when he.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah, from.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: From episode three to episode four, where you, you know, you mean talk about, like, Obi wan to what he is now in this age, like 40 years.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: Living in that desert.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: But, like, did they call him old Ben from the beginning?
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Or was it just Ben? Maybe he was Ben.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah, he's Ben Kenobi. And then know, growing up on Tatooine there. So he's like, oh, he means old Ben Kenobi.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: And the fact that. So at the original, it was just Ben Kenobi. So you're like, okay, Obi wan Kenobi, but, like, why wouldn't you change your last name?
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I've always gone as Michael Kenobi, and now I'm just going to be Mike Kenobi. And they'll never find.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: That's, to me, the biggest one. To me, I'm like, that's just bad.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: Writing in the first place. My 1st 1 second one, we. We capture Princess Leia here, and the droids run off and get into a ship and go down, and the guy's like, nah, there's no life forms. Just let it go. I think that's on purpose, was to find the blueprints, right? That was the whole thing.
I think. I think they made fun of it in the family guy. One of, he's like, well, it's not like we're going to run out of ammo. I could just blast it. Yeah, just let it go. Nothing in there. That's fine.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: I think it was on purpose in the same sense. Like, I don't know if they could have.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: They had to write it off somehow, right?
[00:29:46] Speaker A: But, well, it should have. I guess the writing could have been changed in high says 2020 to say, like, they didn't see the thing escape. Like, the pod was like, somehow.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: Or like, there's tons of them jettisoning and they just didn't get all of them. You know what I mean? There just happens to be. Yeah, that's pretty funny because the guy.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Running the, running the arms in the, in the, you know, base says, no, don't worry about it. Immediately, Darth Vader was like, that's what that was.
He's stupid.
[00:30:12] Speaker B: You shot every one of them but that one.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: But yes. Yeah, I can see that.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: This doesn't have. Right? Yep. So here we go. Now, the next thing we get the stormtroopers get down there. And they're looking for, oh, look, droids. And they're riding around on giant lizards. Where the hell do those come from?
[00:30:32] Speaker A: I still love the fact that piece of metal we've seen.
Oh, droids. Yeah.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: So random metal o ring there. Oh, that's the first sign of droids.
So what, this is an advanced race, right? And we've seen they have speeders. We've got Luke in his. In his meter. And the first thing the stormtroopers do when they land is like, go get us some big ass lizards to ride around because, oh, man, who didn't pack the speeders with us this trip? Or do they have them on board these giant space cruisers? Are all these lizards? There's like one, like, whole section of the empire that's dedicated to caring for giant lizards to ride.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: It's Noah's Ark.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: They're out there shovelling crap. You know what I mean?
[00:31:18] Speaker A: I'd read that side story out of comic book. The guy who shovels the poop of the big lizard creatures.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: Look, they have a giant space section on board there that looks like an iguana cage.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Okay, so we've now figured out. We now figured out we're going to watch. We're going to watch Robocop on this show. So that could shit all over yours. Your favorite movie. No, I understand.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: There's nothing wrong with Robocop.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Every movie has these things. It's just one of those things.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: And part of it is because it's cool, right?
[00:31:46] Speaker A: Especially in a movie that's like this. If you, like, look back on the history of it a lot, you don't. You shouldn't be required to look at the history of a movie or how it was made to appreciate the movie. But I feel like this movie is almost 50 years old. And it's like there's a lot more that goes into it. And so watching these documentaries and learning about, like, oh, it was like, you know, doomed and the budgets and the timelines and all this other stuff. And so it was edited by one person who was fired and then edited by three other people, including George Lucas ex wife or now ex wife, his wife at the time. She ended up winning a word for the editing on this movie.
But there's all those things right now where like, you edit things in and cut things in. It's like we have to somehow say, we know the droids are here. So that's why that o ring was like, okay, we'll just do this quick thing. We don't have time.
[00:32:30] Speaker B: The sand tracks of obviously one walking and this other one rolling along, that was like, give it away. Which is another one that I questioned. This is like the, uh, like from Robocop, the 209 design.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: We have all this advanced technology and we've made this droid that's a trash can with like three.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: I had that written down.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: I was just not a better designed thing. No one's ever been like, you know, this might not be the best setup.
[00:32:54] Speaker A: This is a budget movie for sure.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Rely on these things. And yet we've made it as useless as humanly possible.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: Move around. You mentioned trash can in the movie, Paul. There is a trash can that's maderoid.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the natural trash can.
He's wandering around.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: And the funny thing is, my biggest memory of this. I don't know what the suit is. Ships called. Do you know what the transport call is called for the Jawas?
[00:33:21] Speaker B: The Jaws? I sure point. So those are things as a kid because I always love.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: It's a sandcrawler crawler.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: There you go. I used to have the Star wars encyclopedias of these and read through all the vehicles and stuff. I thought they were cool.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: So star. The sand crawler is fascinating. I love that because like two things on that. It's big, it's massive. And obviously the jaw was very small.
Also the idea that how they filmed it and using scaled models and all that stuff, that's cool to me. In making a movie. But my biggest memory of Star wars, honestly, is when I was younger, going to star tours at Disney World. And the ride that was at Disney World that was there was pretty cool. Which is kind of funny because it was like foreshadowing that Disney would eventually have the rights to Star wars, because.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: At the time it was owned by.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: Fox and they had licensed it to Disney for Disney World, which is not there anymore. I really wish it was still there because it was very simple.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: And when you get in, it kind of like shakes and you fly around.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Yeah, the ET ride at Universal used to be amazing, too. A very simple old school thing. Now it's been replaced by all kinds of other things. But the cue to get into star tours, to get into the actual ride is in the sandcrawler where the droids are after the Jawas took r Po, when they picked up those two droids and they put them in there, they put the little, like, you know, inhibitors on. So you see this trash can. So they like, it's like they said, we made a trash can droid in the movie, and we're just gonna freaking go with it. We're gonna say, whatever, screw all you. You all noticed it when you saw the movie. But this ride where we have an opportunity to not put this trash can in, they're like, screw it, we're doing it. And the trash can was in the line. You queued through the thing, and it's sitting there. And I'm like, are you kidding me right now? What's the cheapest prop in the movie?
Someone's like, on the lot for Fox, and they're like, put some lights in that trash can. Get someone in it. Walk.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Yep, you're good. You're perfect.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: But that's what's so funny about that is like, there's certain things that he was a small budget movie maker. Make a big. So, like, some of these things are probably, like, he didn't care because, like, at the time, he was making small budget movies. And so, I mean, american. American graffiti was made for $750,000.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah, this is so, like, huge undertaking, right? Like, this is a huge underdog. Like, they had tons and tons of stuff to do for this movie making. This was not simple.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: No. So, like, there obviously are plot holes. There are. Every movie has them.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: There's not idea that Star wars is perfect. Well, let's point out things here that, you know, are a little off in.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: A part of me is going to be defending.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Every time you turn around, the droids lock a door. And they're like, this one's locked. Move along. Nothing going on here.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Well, that's.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: That's sucky at finding things. Okay. These guys are awful.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Well, they can't shoot right.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Except for the opening scene, the open scene. They're smoking everybody.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: But they barely ever hit anybody.
And they, uh, they are very dopey, if you think about it. Until the. The sequel trilogy, they made him pretty badass in the sequel trilogy with, like, you know, Finn and all those guys, like, with blood on them and all that stuff. They made him very darker, I think. But, yeah, they're very dopey. They're very stupid stormtroopers in this movie. And so there's that, too.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: Isn't Kenobi says that he's like, oh, only storm. Only stormtroopers could fire this accurately. And I was like, what? Like, hit everything. Like, just. They shot everything. They missed.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: And the fact that he uses the force against them and says to Luke was like, how'd you do that? He goes, the force works well to manipulate weak minds. And so obviously he's saying that the stormtroopers have weak minds.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Their entire purpose is to follow orders. Right.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: So, yeah, so I don't think it's a perfectly movie made movie. That's why it's a 96 out of 100.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: Well, right. All right. I don't know if I'd go that.
[00:37:04] Speaker A: You just mentioned the 4%.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: I don't think. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: No, I know what you mean. I'm just joking. I agree. I agree. I told you I was going to tell. Tell you some things that are like, it's true. The trash can droid, the fact that they're riding those lizards in the desert, they find an O ring, and they're like, oh, droids have been here. And it's the droids they're looking for, too. Not just droids in general.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Not just any droids. Full planet of them.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: Yes. The pod being jettisoned and then being like, nothing, whatever. Forget about it.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: Don't worry about that one.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: And the point that they do like the star, the family guy one, which everybody should watch if you haven't seen it, is the family guy one, um, where he's like, it's not like we have a finite number of ammo. Yeah, I think, pretty sure the budget for the military side of the Empire is pretty high, so I think.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: I think they can afford it. Yeah, I think they could probably blast that one and not worry about it.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: Another great conversation. That's outside of the actual Star wars movie you should watch is in clerks. Uh, the description of the workers on the, uh, star.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: The, um, uh, star destroyer. Yeah, I know. The Death Star.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: That death Star. The people, like, what's, when they destroyed the Death Star? They're like, what about the people that were working on that? They were just, like, you know, hired and they're day workers.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: They're just, I was gonna say, like, you really think about it. Like, they blew up another, they're all celebrating stuff. You blew up another planet. You just killed, like, what? Like, a million people probably were on.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: This, and it was probably just someone on there is, like, trying to pay their bills, and they're just working.
[00:38:23] Speaker B: They don't have a choice. Yeah, their, their planet got conquered by the empire.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: They've never met, even met Darth Vader. They just worked.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Never even seen him. Nope. Never seen him. Never heard of them. They get up in the morning, they go down, they start in the cafeteria. They're making the oatmeal for the stormtroopers. You just killed them all.
[00:38:38] Speaker A: Yeah. People work in the kitchen. Yeah, people working the kitchen. People cleaning up the shit from the big lizards.
[00:38:42] Speaker B: The big space lizards. Yeah.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: It's a fun thing. Those are all fun things to talk about. And they're on this movie. But the best part to me is so Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and Darth Vader and Princess Leia. And, you know, through this movie is like, they're the people. They're the thing.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: All right.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Okay, here's, here's the deal. And I've told you this in the shop. These movies are about c, three, Po, and r. They are the vessel that.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Makes, they're the main characters. So you find out in all the Star wars, they're the ones. Right? They're in every, every one of them.
[00:39:13] Speaker A: And they're the ones that, they're focused around the fact that they jettison the droids to the planet, and then they have to go find them. They're the ones that connect old Ben Kenobi and Luke Skywalker. And they're the ones, they're the ones that do everything, and they save everybody to the day. They unlock doors. They do all that stuff that's so funny about it is that, like, people don't appreciate as much.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: R two is, like, the biggest hero in all the movies. Like, in every single scene. Luke Skywalker wouldn't have gotten anywhere if he didn't have r two.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: R two?
[00:39:43] Speaker B: Yeah. See, no, no, perfect example. I have an r two. Ornament I hang on my Christmas tree.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: Every year is r is the shit.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I do.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: So. So my other point, too, when I've talked to you about this, and the thing is, it's not only is it the relationship or that they're the main characters, but the relationship of the two characters in the movie is the best relationship in a lot of movies. The fact that they're, like, friends and they give each other shit. Like, you know, like, they're always, like, ribbing on each other.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm assuming r two swears, like, a lot.
[00:40:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's what.
It's a beep.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Yeah. They have to beep out everything he says.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: But also the fact that they have. The fact that I mentioned this to you, like I said in the shop, is the fact that they talk to each other, and they have great conversations, and they argue and they do all this stuff, and only one of them actually speaks English. And so, like, for us as viewers, we're watching this going, oh, my God. That's a funny conversation they're having. It's like. It's. It's what the groot. Conversations with, like, Star Lord is Star Lord. Yeah, but, like, the idea that they are. We can't understand them. They don't use subtitles and do any of that stuff. I love that. They should have done a droid. R two speaking with another r two or another unit in the holiday special, not the Wookiees wookieeing at each other.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Right. Like, an r two and a b two just beeping back and forth at one another. But those.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: Those two, like, the. The idea that they speak like Anthony Daniels carries the conversation as c three po, and doesn't.
It doesn't lose anything. I don't think it's one time where I'm like, I really wish I knew what r was saying. And Luke, who could understand him, and a lot of the people could understand that one.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: I don't get. How does everyone understand?
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Is it, like, morse code?
[00:41:21] Speaker B: Right. Must be. And you just get used to it.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff in it.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: A lot of weird. I think you have to, because archery units are the ones that, like, drive the spacecraft. So it's like, is his ex winning his own?
[00:41:37] Speaker B: What is r 2d? Is he run the navigation? Does he run? He just cleans up the damn thing.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Well, I think he got this down.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: And that's blasted and fixed this. But what the hell is r two do?
[00:41:46] Speaker A: He's our Apple play. In our phone.
You know, you have to plug it in and get it to work in the app.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You're sitting there. I won't find it. Won't Bluetooth. Come on, get in it. R two.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: That would be funny.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: You're out there taking the two reals out of the X wing, putting it back in over and over again. Oh, there we go.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: Did you. Did you turn off two reals and turn it back on?
Did you power cycle r two? Is that what's going on here?
Like, they are the movie? It's the funniest thing. And I'm glad it's like that too, because, like, again, they were able to be in all the movies, basically, because the fact that they are not actual, physically viewed people. Like, so when they made the solo movie with, obviously recasting, sorry, Harrison Ford as a younger person, they couldn't use Harrison Ford, obviously. And people are like, oh, my God. It's not Harrison Ford. Obviously. You can't be him unless you're, like, 100% special effects, de aging, all this crap that would make it look so bad, get someone else to play them. And so the same thing they didn't have to worry about with future films, early films, spinoffs, all these other things that r two and d two and c three pure are robots. And they're obviously voiced by these people, but, like, they can get anybody else to do it. And so, like, the fact that we see these people, these droids could be across films. We could see r po 40 years from now. Because the fact they're just robots.
[00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah, you just keep having them. I mean, you're gonna have to find the voice actor for, obviously. But that's it. Although technically speaking, nowadays, you may not even have to do that.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: Well, James Earl Jones already licensed his voice. He's already gone into the theater, the studio, and recorded sounds and words and all these things so that they can use technology to make Darth Vader's voices from for generations to come. He said, that's what I'm going to leave my legacy to them and so on and so forth. So he did that to me. That, to me is, okay.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: Star wars character Archer D two.
Okay, I'm Darth Vader. Okay.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: So I guess almost.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: Almost all of the Star wars comics I've read have been about Darth Vader. Yeah, I think Vader's character is interesting.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: So I also think that they missed.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: I have actually considered getting the scotty young Darth Vader tattoo, getting his artwork. Yeah, I would have a Star wars tattoo. I thought about it, the.
[00:43:58] Speaker A: The thought that, I don't know, one of the reasons that he was obviously the darkest and deepest and strongest villain in these movies, but, like, the fact that he is the only one that's. That's really talked about as much. Like, in the prequel trilogies and the sequel trilogies, they don't get as much. Like, there's no one but as big and bad as them. The only one that I didn't even think of, that'd be kind of a cool thing to do. And I think they missed a vote completely on it, and it's just gone right into it afterwards. Is the thrawn, the ability to have thrawn as a. As a, like, a villain in the movie, because, like, obviously it's too late now because when thrawn. When Thrawn was in power, all these people, it's the people too old, and they're dead now because, like, Princess Leia would have been there, and now she's obviously passed.
[00:44:39] Speaker B: But that's one of my problems, I think with all the rest of Star wars stuff, nothing adds up to Vader. Like, the. The next movies, you get Kylo ren there and, like, he was awful. Like, just awful. And I don't care about whatever. Snicket, snipe, snape.
[00:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: So snape. I don't know what the hell that guy was. I don't care what he's doing. Like, I just don't care about any of the rest of the Star wars stuff besides Vader, I think, mmm, I love r two, but any, like, villain wise, they're just not. They just. It's like they were done. Yeah, you had it. You had Vader. You had the perfect thing and let it lie.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: But there's also that aspect of, like, don't relate things to the original thing. Like, so, in my opinion, write something about something else.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: There's tons and tons of Star wars stuff out there.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: You could, in the fact that this whole high Republic thing is going to happen. There's gonna be villains, but you can't be like, well, so and so. So. Say, for example, if they do say they make a bad batch style, or actually they've done it with Clone wars, they've done thrawn. And all that stuff in Clone wars is to be like, oh, thrawn is not as good as Darth Vader. Well, yes, obviously, it's the same thing that's trying to say is like, I don't mind. Jurassic park two, Jurassic park three. Jurassic world. I didn't mind that much is, but none of them is Jurassic park. So, like, obviously, you're not going to recapture the T Rex in Jurassic park is the villain is the great thing. Like, that is the big bad, and you're not going to changed the villain.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: And the hero, the whole thing. Yeah.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: So, like, the first trilogy, having Darth Vader be the. Be the villain, that is never going to be replicated in Star wars ever because this, they made us, George Lucas made this villain that was so amazing in this sense. And here's the deal. Also a droid, basically.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:23] Speaker A: I mean, he's half more robot than man.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Twisted evil.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: And so, like, I can see where you're coming from on that. And I would say that he's out there. He's up there in one of my top villains of all time. In all things.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: And so, like, he is, if you.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: Look at him like a villain, right? He's like Magneto. Is he hero or a villain?
[00:46:40] Speaker A: Uh, he's a.
[00:46:41] Speaker B: He's pretty, pretty villain. Yeah.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he's thanos. Yeah, he's thanos because he thinks he's doing the right thing.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:46:48] Speaker A: Even though he's not. But he actually, truly, in his mind, thinks he's doing the right thing to help the world. Because he's a dictator. You mean he's.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Just, you know, just because he was tricked into it or forced into it or whatever, it's still a dictator. He still killed a bunch of people. A lot of people. He destroyed a planet, tons of them. Well, actually, did he even destroy a planet, really?
[00:47:07] Speaker B: Well, no, the other guy did.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, the other guy.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: The other guy's the one that destroyed the planet, gave the order because he. Because according to Vader, like that, we have the all force in the galaxy or whatever, and he's like, nothing, you know, challenges the force. This is space station. Your technology is not as important.
[00:47:23] Speaker A: But I tell. I will tell you that in a court of law, Paul, he would be just as, oh, yeah, he's definitely guilty. Yeah. I'm just telling you right now, just because he didn't push the button doesn't mean he wasn't in trouble. It wasn't. Wasn't his fault.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: I mean, there's those things about Vader, right? How many times did you want to, like, choke force one of the people you worked with and they're being an idiot, you know, and here he is.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: What was the force? You didn't touch him, right? Yeah, laid hands off, guys run his.
[00:47:49] Speaker B: Mouth in the meeting, and he's like, no, I've had enough.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: I mean, you know, like they say, galaxy far, far away, which was in the future, but really in the past.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: But in the past. Right.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: But also, I will say again, on your side of things to defend your opinion or on this stuff is the fact that, like, you know, we just had this recent tragedy in Maryland with the bridge falling and so on. And it's, they said it could take up to a decade for the bridge to be repaired or to be cleaned up, fixed and operational again. And that, to me, I'm like, it's fascinating that we have all this technology now and all this ability to do stuff, and funds are an issue because the government's going to help with that and so on and so forth, right? But it's still going to take ten years to rebuild this bridge. And they're building a death star in the span of people. Like, an entire planet sized spaceship.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: It's a small moon.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: It's taking not.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: They've done that much faster, and they're.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: Able to start building it and get this far before anybody. Obviously, the universe is huge.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: You know what? It's all of the paperwork you have to file. The empire's not filing paperwork.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Well, think about it. Luke, Leia, and all them didn't know that it was being made, right. Luke is. Luke and Todd didn't know you got.
[00:49:01] Speaker B: To show up right now. Well, now that Obi Wan, because they're like, oh, what's that thing out in the mountains for?
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Look at this movie. I will say the world, that universe is a big, you know, they talk about how the galaxy is huge and so on and so forth. However, there's light speed. They travel across galaxies easily, so information must travel just as easy.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Navigation stuff.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Yeah, so I think it's one of those things. And I'm like, it's kind of weird that someone like Luke and Han didn't know that this was happening. And they're like, oh, what's this thing here? It can't be that big. And it's even worse as it gets, like I said, as it gets further on. And this is me shitting on Star Wars a little bit, is the fact that they built a second one is also pretty funny.
And then they just give up in the sequel trilogies, right? And they just build it on a planet. Right. Why that wasn't just the idea in the first place, I don't understand.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I guess what you had the hard part of moving the planet versus being able to move the space station, but then the space station, like, you had the giant exhaust port.
Like, well, if we have the planet, we don't have to have the exhaust port. No, because everything seems.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: We build our own death Star and blow your planet up. That's right.
Um, so, yeah, as a whole, the movie isn't perfect. I will say that right now. No one out there. I would. I will never be able to agree with someone saying this movie is perfect. I think for made in 1977 to be a space opera space Sci-Fi movie, it is extremely well done compared to other movies that came out within 1015.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: I overall, do enjoy Star wars.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: It's a fun watch. It's a unique watch. It's.
And at the time, there were actors that were nobodies, really. I mean, even Harrison Ford wasn't too big of a somebody.
And they're, like, iconic, to be honest, you. Harrison Ford moved on to be a iconic, one of a kind actor of all time. Obviously, James Earl Jones did a bunch of stuff, but honestly, outside of the other people on the movie, obviously later on in his life, did you know.
[00:51:01] Speaker B: The Joker played in Star Wars?
I didn't. I didn't know that until recently.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Mark Hamill went on to play the joker and a bunch of other things. And Mark Hamill has done other stuff in his life. He's been a very successful actor. Carrie Fisher did some other things and so on and so forth. But really, as an overall scheme of things, it, none of these actors ended up being like Harrison Ford level actors. So it's pretty crazy to see how great of a movie this was. And they didn't get a shot. It was like they were made to play these roles, and that was it, if that makes any sense. Like, none of them also, like, Harrison Ford had this, like, ability to be Indiana Jones and all these other people, but, like, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Peter, all these other people are like, okay, we're Star wars people. That's what we're going to be. And in the end, nowadays, if they were in the MCU style, like, they would put into the, you know, Robert Downey junior role, they would have been made billions of dollars.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:51:54] Speaker A: You know, they've had to start at work. I mean, Mark Hamill had to play the joker, probably because he need to pay his bills. This is not like, you know, his.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Other problems that Mark Hamill has.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: But that's okay. But, yeah, so, like, the fact that they were actually nobodies and they went on, it's the same thing that I felt with Seinfeld like Seinfeld, Jerry is the only one that actually ended up, and maybe I would say Julia Louis Dreyfus ended up being a little bit more than anything else, but, like, no one else really things.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: But, yeah, most of them. George was one of those. George, like, Jason Alexander is George.
[00:52:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: When I see him on things, he's a big Star Trek fan, and he was on, like, a Star Trek thing, and all I can see was George and Star Trek. I was like, well, George doing another space.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: It's like when, uh, what's his name from Harry Potter says, anything else? Daniel Radcliffe. I'm always like, what's Harry Potter doing?
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Why is Harry Potter here?
Yeah, that's gotta be tough to be typecasted and just be like, that's it. No matter what, doesn't matter what you are and what you do, you are this, like. Like watching Wolverine dance around on stage. Why is Wolverine dancing? That's weird. Why is he hanging out with all these people around? Like the musical in the barns there?
[00:53:00] Speaker A: So here's the other thing.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Why is he trying to create a circus? Shouldn't you be out fighting for mutant kindness? Up.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: Yep. Singing. Why is he singing? Yeah.
[00:53:09] Speaker B: Must have gotten really strong.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Where's his claws?
Or what did he say?
What is in the new Deadpool Wolverine trailer? He pulls his claws, he goes, whiskey. Whiskey clause.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: Yeah, whiskey clause. That happens a lot of guys your age. Oh, guys over 40 have this problem.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: This is. This is actually going to come out in a couple weeks. So it's old news now, but watch the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer because it's hilarious.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: I can't wait for that movie.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: It's Harrison Ford going to be in the Marvel Cinematic University of pretty, too.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: So this is another problem, though, is I can't. Harrison Ford is so big, I can't see him as anything besides Harrison Ford. I can't. I'm not going to be able to see him as the character from the Hulk. I'm only gonna see him as Harrison Ford.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:53:53] Speaker B: Like, he's become one of those people that's so big that I feel like you see him.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: And that finds it interesting that they talked about not having any new or any older people. People have been in movies before or big movies before in this movie, in that they're iconic and so on and so forth. The fact that they. That Steven Spielberg hired George or Harrison Ford to be Indiana Jones in the first place is surprising to me. Me, because you already had an iconic role as someone who's always remember him as Han Solo to try and then bring him over. He does a good job at it.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: But it's funny because watching him, he is Han Solo and he is Indiana Jones. I think it's, like, awesome. He's perfect.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Not very.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: George Clooney is George Clooney. That's like, what I see. Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford. Like, it was George Clooney dressed up as Batman. Now it's like canopy. Harrison Ford dressed up, wandering around with, like, hulk people.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: I also forgot, and I forgot, but I was just reminding myself it was amazing in the fugitive in those movies as well as Blade Runner.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah.
[00:54:53] Speaker A: That's also played Jack Ryan in the Patriot games and clearing present danger movies.
[00:54:59] Speaker B: Those were good.
[00:55:00] Speaker A: He's been in the excellent main movie directed by my boy, Jon Favreau, Cowboys and Aliens from 2011. Have you seen that movie?
[00:55:11] Speaker B: I have not seen that movie. I remember that movie coming out and just went, nope. Here we go.
[00:55:16] Speaker A: Ready?
Sci-Fi western action film directed by Jon Favreau. Stars Daniel Craig, Harrison Ford, Olivia Wilde, Sam Rockwell.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: How the hell did he convince all these people to make this movie?
[00:55:28] Speaker A: I don't know. It was horrible, man.
[00:55:30] Speaker B: They were all hanging out at a party one time. Like, everybody was like, drunk or stoned or something. They're like, you know what?
[00:55:36] Speaker A: We should.
Someone had pictures. That's what it was. Someone had pictures of someone says, you get to be my movie. Jon Favreau had blackmail against all these people.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah. My favorite logical explanation, it was made.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: For $163 million and made $174 million. So if that says I did not.
[00:55:52] Speaker B: Contribute to any of that either. Nope.
[00:55:54] Speaker A: I love that. Also looking at that 2011 $163 million budget, 1970 711 million dollars budget. Star wars is Star wars. Cowboys and aliens is a joke. And so, like, it's so crazy. The difference about how much money goes into a movie doesn't always equate on how well the movies be made or so on and so forth.
[00:56:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I wonder how much the. Remember we met the creator of all of the vehicles, all of the space stuff at a comic con bang or harm a toy con here before he passed. And, like, I wonder what he. What he was being paid. It'd be interesting to know, like, what was he being paid versus, like, the time it took, because, like, the dedication to every one of these little spacecraft that he was doing so they could film this is incredible. To make different, unique ones that are all iconic now. Right? Like, if you see an x wing, you know it's an x wing. You see the silhouette of one, you know what it is? Same thing with like a tie fighter, like all these things.
[00:56:48] Speaker A: And he thinks a lot of imagery from this, from this movie. So set designers. Yeah, vehicle designers, costume designers, all that stuff. Cinematographers is a huge thing in this movie because of the fact that they have movie posters and variant covers for like, DVD's of just silhouettes of things, you know, like, yeah, this Tatooine hat that way. I didn't know what Tatooine is. If you didn't say Tatooine on it, even you, as a non Star wars massive fan, you'd be like, that's Tatooine. And so, like, that side of the things is amazing. And the thing we haven't talked about, Paul, that is the most, the best part about this entire movie is the score and the soundtrack.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: Yeah. It's iconic.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: It is like, it's like you cannot get past the fact that, that Star wars, you hear that Star wars music and you hear. And that's why it's considered a space opera. It's because there's that music to it as well. No one sings in it, but it's just that music. And then how much of a fact it mean watching this movie and mute is completely different than watching it.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: Yeah. If they took that soundtrack out, you know what? It'd be interesting to watch this movie without a soundtrack and see how different it affects it.
[00:57:50] Speaker A: I guarantee not be good on it.
[00:57:53] Speaker B: It is so. Well, I mean, everything that the Vader music there with him, you hear that, you know something's coming. Right? So my, my favorite hockey team uses that as their, um, when they're going to go on the power play. Yeah, no, they're. The other teams got a penalty and we're going to. Now the avalanche are coming on the power play and dun, dun, dun. You know that sound like, so it.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: Is trumpets, the horns at the very beginning of the movie when you hear the Star wars soundtrack song, the actual theme song. And then, honestly, obviously, what, what nowadays seems cheesy is the crawl seems like a special effect that someone in the back studio was like, look what I can do. And they made this crawl that, like, nowadays you're like, if you saw someone do that and it wasn't in Star wars, nowadays, you'd be like, cheesy guy over here with a stupid friggin crawl. It's like a design thing that nowadays seems so weird. Um, but it's. I love it because it gave you the preface to what's going on. What happened in episodes one, two, and three that hadn't happened yet, obviously. Yeah, that background on the thing, it's the what I wish that every single freaking comic book had in issues two through five. Because.
[00:59:02] Speaker B: Yeah, just open that up and just real quick.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: You're like a small paragraph of something. Like in episode issue one in issue one and two in.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: Yeah, now that he's like. That is literally only used as spoofs. Like, you put that on there.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: So having that, everyone would be like.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: Hey, you're ripping off Star wars.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: And they. And they made it. They made a point behind it, too. There's a couple things. There's things that, like Rogue one, the solo movie, all are solo. A Star Wars Story. Rogue one, a Star wars. It wasn't Star Wars. Rogue one, Star wars, whatever. There's the pinnacle movies, there's the temple movies, and then everything else is below that. And the same thing with the crawl in those two solo movies that they did that. That didn't kick. Nowadays, they're gonna be able to do it again. But before, when they were doing these movies, they didn't work very well. They didn't do the crawl because it's like, no, the crawl is designed for the major motion pictures and the same thing with the tv shows and so on and so forth. It's like, no, we're gonna use the music. We're gonna do some things, but we're not gonna do these things are not that. And let's keep those for the temple movies. And, oh, we'd be killing, kicking ourselves to St. Paul that they're not gonna do another three movies. At some point there's gonna be 1010, 1112. You have to think that there's going to be.
[01:00:13] Speaker B: Oh, I assume so. I don't know how you're gonna fix, personally, but if someone should think about.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: Okay, here's my question for you, Paul. The other ones, if they do, if they go in and make 910 or so, 1011 and twelve, and they fix this, they retroactively go back somehow and some do it. Will you give them credit for it?
[01:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, if I. Boy, you know what? I am so Star wars doubt now, too, with like, our. With our culture and in like, with Disney owning it, with it just being everywhere. Like, you can't go anywhere and not see it.
God, it would have to look really good to get me to go watch episode ten. Especially after stomaching through the seven, eight and nine. I went some, and I'm sure there's people out there that love them. I'm sure there's people that like, say, seven, eight, nine were the best. Star wars. Whatever. I don't know how that's possible, but I was a generation movies in theater.
[01:01:06] Speaker A: It's a generation's movies, though. Like, people who came out in there in the prime time, in age for those movies, they came out.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: We know people that argue that menace is the greatest Star Wars.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: I know it's.
[01:01:15] Speaker B: I think people that argue that jar jar beans is not a bad character.
[01:01:18] Speaker A: He's not. I actually have him right here.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: Oh, hey, Charger.
I hate him.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: I hate him so much. So I don't. I think they'll still do it. Because here's the deal, Paul. People didn't like episodes. Not six, seven or so. Seven, eight, nine. Right. People were not the overall scheme of things. People were not fans of seven, eight.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: Not a big fan of one, two, and three either.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: Right. But honestly, the almost are equivalent to a lot of people. It's like four, five, and six. Like, we're reviewing on these. And then one, two, and three are, like, almost on the same wavelength for a lot of people.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: I'll take one, two, and three over seven, eight, nine any day.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:01:56] Speaker B: Right.
[01:01:58] Speaker A: Nine came out in 2019. So five years ago this December, made a billion dollars.
So that many people went and saw after seeing seven and eight and not liking that much, they still win saw nine. So think about it. If every single one of us.
[01:02:17] Speaker B: When I left this, the movie theater from seven, I was like, all right, okay. You know? But then when I watched it again, I was like, wait a minute.
I instantly didn't like Kylo Ren. Like, watching seven in the first place. Not a big Kylo Ren fan, but watching it a second time through, I'm like, I got some issues with this. And then came eight, and then came nine. Just. Oh, boy.
[01:02:39] Speaker A: Okay, so it was 20, 15, 20, 17, 20, 19. So there wasn't that long of a time for you to even forget what you just saw. This is not like. This is not like return of the Jedi and Phantom Menace, where there's, like, years in between that you can actually like. I forgot what I saw. So. So it was the three movies. Force awakens last Jedi and rise of the Skywalker were made for $1.16 billion. Okay. That was the budget for all three movies.
[01:03:02] Speaker B: It.
[01:03:03] Speaker A: It brought in the box as four and a half billion dollars. So the reason why I'm saying they're gonna do a ten, 1112 is because of that.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:12] Speaker A: Financially profited $3 billion for a company they bought for $4 billion.
[01:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:18] Speaker A: Why wouldn't you mean, like, so, like, in the sense that they got all their return on their investment back from these three movies, why would they not attempt to do this again? Even if they sucked, they're gonna make the billions of dollars they wanted to make. So they're gonna do it right now.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: If they were smart, they would make a minimum amount of merchandise this time. Minimum. Stop having Star wars stuff on clearance everywhere.
[01:03:37] Speaker A: But then the others. But the problem is, they still made the money on it because it was clearance at target.
Lucasfilm still made the money because it's now at target. Means they bought it from target. Yeah, but what I think they will do in the meantime, it may be the gap between episode six and episode one. You know, those years in between. Between before episode nine, episode ten, is it will do some of these one off things. You know, tv shows, movies here and there and so on.
[01:04:03] Speaker B: I watched season one and two of the Mandalorian, which I enjoyed. I have not watched season three now, and I haven't watched any of the other ones. I probably will, like, eventually, maybe.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: I don't know.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: Maybe I won't. Depends on how much time I have and how many times when I rewatch stuff from the nineties I already like better.
[01:04:20] Speaker A: So they have come out in 2026, May 22, 2026, which is, what, two years from now? Two years from around now is the Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni Mandalorian in Grogu. So that's that movie that the final season, basically, of Mandalorian be a movie and then TBA, unknown. But they're directed, and they have directors, and they have people in place for them.
[01:04:42] Speaker B: Right.
[01:04:42] Speaker A: Including James Mangold, who wrote or directed Logan.
[01:04:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: All right, so an untitled new Jedi Order film and untitled dawn of the Jedi and an untitled New Republic film. So there are three films, and I don't think they're connected. I don't think they're, like, 19. I don't think it's time I was.
[01:05:05] Speaker B: Honestly, I would take a trilogy again that was not connected to the main line.
[01:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:10] Speaker B: If you had a trilogy story and you were doing, like, the high Republic stuff, doing the stuff free everything or do it way in the future, go way out, way past all this crap. Just give us Star wars that we like in the characters and this and that. Like, let's not have. You can have appearances of things that.
[01:05:25] Speaker A: Well, it's easy to do in a prequel trilogy, isn't it? Like, the million do a high Republic trilogy.
[01:05:30] Speaker B: Way past. Everybody look. The Falcon's still alive out here in space. You know, being used and, like, all that. Have some of that.
[01:05:35] Speaker A: But the high Republic trilogy makes sense to me because you can use Easter eggs of future things. They mentioned in all of the nine movies of now out in this high republic. You can mention things like, or, like, see Obi Wan Kenobi as a baby or, you know, whatever it could be. Like, you could get these things that say, that make you go, oh, it's connected to my universe. So the prequel and the sequel trilogies all make sense in a sense that, like, someone's reading a book that includes a Skywalker saga in it, but it's not actually a character from the Skywalker saga in the movie.
[01:06:07] Speaker B: One of the things I enjoy about Star wars comics, and I tell people, and I, when I reference them in here, is that they have to tie in somewhere and they can't take place. You can't just write that Luke Skywalker is doing whatever. Like, you have to have a point and then spot in the timeline. And it's cool because when you go through reading them, you recognize things like, hey, I remember this from that movie, or I've seen this, or, like, I love that feature of it. I think that's really cool that there's a giant tie in and all those together.
[01:06:33] Speaker A: And that's my whole thing. Paul, I'll end this episode on that. Is the fact that I think that just them making new Star wars shit is amazing. Like, I don't care. I read the books. I read the comics. I read everything because I know I've.
[01:06:43] Speaker B: Asked you while you're still buying them.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: I love the idea behind them and so on and so forth. And we're talking this week during Star Wars Week on the podcast with Ethan Sachs, who wrote 42 issues of Star Wars Bounty Hunters and is also writing the Django Fett comic book. And so there is this lore to it that I just love seeing the same thing. I'll always watch Marvel movies. I honestly always watch a DC movie. I don't like most of them, but my point is that, like, I'll watch them because they're being made. They're, they're. They're feature films.
[01:07:10] Speaker B: You. You at this stage might have watched more of the modern DC stuff than.
[01:07:14] Speaker A: I have, but I'm excited because, Paul, it's the stuff that we've always been considering nerds for owning or liking is now more of the pop culture and actual, like, the regular culture of people's lives. And they're making these films and they're on big screen tvs and they're on big screen theaters that I get to see this stuff and I'm alive for this stuff, and I'm just excited for that. So, like, literally, and I don't know if that's just a Kevin Smith, you know, in mindset that he's just like, cool, give me all the shit. I just like the fact that they're out there. And so, like, whether they're bad or good, I get to judge it myself.
[01:07:42] Speaker B: I get to see myself discuss it in public, which was something that was not.
[01:07:46] Speaker A: And I'm not big enough of a fan of any of these things, meaning that I'm not have the ability to write my own Marvel story. I don't have my ability to write my own DC story, and I don't have my ability to write my own Star wars story that I really get offended or upset when the Star wars or Marvel or DC thing doesn't go the way that I thought it would go because me and my. These people are paid for. These people make money movies. That's their job. I'll be here a critic if I want to be that. I'll still criticize it afterwards being like, okay, now that I saw that, maybe you should have done this way. This way. But before the movie comes out, I couldn't tell you what should happen in episode ten until after I see episode ten and go, well, I would have gone this way. Yeah, that's just how my mind works because I'm not that creative in that sense. So I'm just happy it's all out there.
And that being said, this movie is not perfect at all by far, but it's really good. I really enjoy watching it. It's very rewatchable. I'll watch it every single time because it's the prequel to my favorite Star wars movie, and that's Empire strikes back, which is the next movie on our list to record. This movie is a four and a half out of five for me.
Not a five.
[01:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I'm just gonna agree. I'm just gonna go four and a half out of five. Yep.
[01:08:53] Speaker A: Because you're rating the movie as a whole. Not all.
[01:08:55] Speaker B: Doesn't hate Star wars.
Got some problems with it, but I don't hate Star wars. You know them all right, so one of my favorite things I've seen lately, the meme from Star wars, of them going out with Princess Leia and giving her as a baby to her, you know, her family, and they say, oh, this will be your princess, and you'll love her and cherish her and everything else, and they're like, oh, it's wonderful. And then Obi wan with Luke and like, hey, um, do you guys, like, want this kid? He's like your nephew. And then, like, we guess when he's like, cool, I'm going to be up in the mountains doing space wizard crap.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: Okay. And we're not going to. I don't know if we'll ever actually get to Paul reviewing seven, eight, nine. I just think that I don't know if they've been out for long enough for me to really do that. Like, you know, Adam and I did episodes one, two, and three, because, again, they've been out for a number of years. Four, five, and six. Obviously been out for almost 50 years for episode four. I feel like 2019 is, like, reviewing a movie from 2019 that wasn't very good, that I really don't really want to watch.
[01:09:56] Speaker B: Right.
[01:09:57] Speaker A: It's weird. So I don't know, maybe it'll be years from now before we all know.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: What seven, eight, nine are.
[01:10:02] Speaker A: And so that's that aspect of it, too. So I don't know if we'll ever get to that point. But if we do, I'm cool. If not, I could care less. I'd rather honestly probably talk about mandalorian season one or, you know, the acolytes coming out here pretty soon, which looks pretty.
[01:10:16] Speaker B: I could go watch that. I've never seen it. Or go watch, you know, like, what was it? Bad batch? I haven't watched or.
[01:10:21] Speaker A: Yep. And they just came out with. As this episode drops, there's an episode or a six episode series called Tales from the Empire. That's an animated series that's coming out or came out on May 4, and that looks really cool. So this episode will drop after May 4 because I decided to do May 4 being its own day. And then Star wars week is the week after. So this is episode. I think it's May 6. May 6 through whatever day it is.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Four and a half. I think it's good. I think it's one of those things that I don't. I can't. Other than the fun things that I feel like every movie has issues with or the things that I just cheese. Take it tongue in cheek, because, like, even, you know, like I said, the Batman having a half of a face open or Clarket having glasses on. Do you notice they always shit on the Star wars or the DC side of things? They're obviously faults in the Marvel side of things too, right? Yeah.
Disguises, I think if they've been around longer, it's more noticeable. It's a thing that people have, like, why doesn't someone just shoot Batman in the face?
[01:11:19] Speaker B: Right?
This is Batman.
[01:11:22] Speaker A: Clark Kent's glasses have never fallen off.
[01:11:26] Speaker B: He's never taken them off to, like.
[01:11:27] Speaker A: Everyone clean them, like, wait, are you.
[01:11:29] Speaker B: Are you.
[01:11:30] Speaker A: Are you Superman?
No, that's not me. I know Superman, though.
But, yeah, so, like. So episode five is next. Then we'll get to episode six after that. And other cool things are happening on Star wars week as well.
It's a fun time of year. I think this is a cool thing for me to talk to people. We're talking Ethan Sachs on the podcast. Excited about that. So it's a cool week coming up here. And I think that.
Yeah, Paul sells Star wars comics at the galactic comics and collectibles, if you want to.
[01:11:57] Speaker B: I have been known to sell Star wars comics. That is true. And toys.
And toys. There's some Star wars action figures behind me. It's all blurred out because I'm. There's an entire section of the store over there that needs some. Some order. So I was like, you know what? Let's just not have that in the background. But, yeah, the Star wars action figures back there.
[01:12:14] Speaker A: Paul's a witness protection is what he's trying to say.
[01:12:16] Speaker B: But, yeah. Coming from a location undisclosed.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. So Star Wars Episode four, available on Disney plus. That's easy one too, as well. So watch that on Disney and then.
[01:12:27] Speaker B: Try to find the non, like adapted version without all the new features.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: Yeah. If you get the vhs, if anybody has that and you want someone knows where to find it. Or like, if it's like a bootleg copy of it somewhere where I can just at least watch it, I, you know, feel free to just copy.
[01:12:41] Speaker B: I've. It's funny because I see them every now and again, like at a yard sale or something. You know what I mean? And it's funny because you find them anywhere from, like a dollar to, like, $500. Like, oh, you don't understand. This is a bit. I'm like, nobody cares.
[01:12:53] Speaker A: Well, it's funny because I think I still have a Force Awakens deep Blu ray, 4K Blu ray, you know, bin over here that I had about had it yard sales. I've had it listed on eBay for a dollar 50 and still hasn't sold it. And it's the funniest thing. It's like, I don't know if it's just because it's on Disney plus and feel like I don't want anyone.
[01:13:09] Speaker B: If you want to own Star wars, you probably own it.
[01:13:11] Speaker A: Like, I believe in. If you truly want to own things for the rest of your lives, buy it on physical media. Same with comics, same with all that stuff. Because at some point, like, if you. If you bought it through Apple, like, oh, cool. Apple. In the disagreement with Apple, it says that if they lose the contract with the company that allows them to sell that media, then that media no longer belongs to you. So then it goes away. So, like, if you download it on Apple's like, oh, I want to buy it on Apple TV or whatever, you don't technically own that you own as long as Apple owns the rights to it. And so, like me, I'm always like, if you really want to own all the nine seasons of Seinfeld, buy them on DVD or Blu ray, because they can't come into your house and take them.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: No. And they can't edit and change stuff in them.
There's a thing now we're looking at this new adapted Star wars instead of having the original version.
[01:13:57] Speaker A: So always buy it. So there's all kinds of options to buy Star wars. There's the box sets, there's the individual, this 4K, there's DVD, there's vhs. It's fun to own these things. And if you're big Star wars fan, own them, have the collection on your shelf, and so on, so on and so forth, because it's worth. Worth having. So I'm a certain vhs physical copies. Yep. And so.
But Robocop.
Yeah.
[01:14:23] Speaker B: Watch.
[01:14:24] Speaker A: Until next time. Better rush baseballs. Maybe we'll do that next year. Spaceballs during Star wars, we just piss people off.
Maybe we'll just do that this summer. Just because. Whatever, right?
We'll do spaceballs and maybe a little segment on, like, the Star wars, the three Star wars episodes of Family Guy, like, in the same episode. Just because, like, this is on Star wars. Because that's what spaceballs was spoof on. Star wars.
Until next time in a galaxy far, far away. Paul, I appreciate it. Thanks, everybody. Here, listen. Go to Paul's website, galactic comics and collectibles.
[01:14:54] Speaker B: Go to.
[01:14:54] Speaker A: Follow on Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff, too, because there's a lot of cool stuff coming out in the near future that you could probably pick up at his shop.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: Oh, boy, do we ever.
[01:15:04] Speaker A: Thanks, Paul.
[01:15:05] Speaker B: Thanks, guys.
