Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com, i'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles. Over at galactic comics and collectibles.com we welcome back once again our friend Adam Caesar to the show to discuss the Clown in the Cornfield movie adapted from his novel from 2020. Adam talks about the adaptation process, the movie itself, the success of the film, and so much more. We also touched on his new novelization of the Toxic Avenger remake movie that comes out this summer. The book hits the shelves on September 2, as well as a couple other things teased Clown on the Cornfield 4, including the title of Clown on the Cornfield 4. So check this episode out with Adam Caesar. But before you do, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, bluesky, threads, all those places you can subscribe, rate, review over over at Spotify or Apple or wherever you find your podcasts. You can watch the video portion of this podcast over on YouTube and as always, you can visit capesandtastes.com for so much more. But this is Adam Caesar, author of the Clown in the Cornfield series and now having Clown in the Cornfield, the first book adapted into a feature film called Clown in the Cornfield, fittingly directed by Eli Craig. So check this out. This is Adam Caesar on the Capes and Tights podcast. Enjoy, everyone.
Welcome back to the podcast. Adam, how are you today?
[00:01:32] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you, Justin?
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Good, good, good. You've been busy. We talked a little bit about this before we started recording. You've been a busy person.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: World traveler at this point.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like, I'm like halfway to, like. I'm like, halfway to, like, American airline preferred status, which is like, awesome because, like. But I don't actually, I don't think I've never, never made it that far up the chart. Like, I'm like a traveling businessman.
So I'm like, yeah. Because it was started in. I don't even remember when that was. Was that February, March, south by Southwest was the world premiere of the movie that was in Austin, Texas.
And then since then, I've been secret kind of professional. Screening in New York.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: New Orleans, New York again twice.
Chicago, Vegas, right after that, a few other places and then Knoxville. I just got back from Tennessee less than 24 hours ago.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: I'm a sleepy boy. Yeah, that's.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: That's crazy. I mean, imagine if you're promoting an actual book right now, too. Like, imagine if you.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Like. Yeah, I know you have. Good. Yeah, it's. It's good because it's like, it's. It's weird because I get to. I get to kind of use the old talking points from five years ago. Like, I kind of talk about. I just talk about book one again, which is.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: You have to reread it just to remember you get it.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: All right, I know. No, I'm like, that's the thing. I'm like, I'm reading, like, Screen Rant. Just didn't like an article that's like the differences between the movie and the book. And it's like. It's like a listicle kind of thing. And one of them. I'm like, I'm pretty sure that was not true. Like, one of them, like, I, like, I'm like, well, I have to read it again. But I don't think that one's right. I don't think that one's actually true.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: Well, you get on to the next thing so, like, so quickly.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: But people. People will be so disappointed to hear that. Like, I. I don't. I don't hold the continuity in that, like, in that heavily in my head. Like, when I have to check something for writing a sequel, I'll check it. But, like. But I read that article this morning and I was like, like, is that one right?
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's funny because I. I did an event on Tuesday with Christopher golden, and Christopher golden was talking. He's like, well, in the book, the grandfather, or is it the father? I can't. And like, where people are like, didn't you just write this book? He's like, well, I wrote it a while ago.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: It just came out. By the time you're talking about a book like, you probably drafted, you know, three years ago. Yeah.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: And at one point it might have been a father, or then it moved to the grandfather. Like, you don't know. You know, editors and the publisher wants you to do something certain way or something like that. But yeah, it was kind of funny how that. He's like, ah, I think it's like that. Yeah. So if so. But yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good point. You're promoting a book because you're also promoting. Obviously, as we have over here, I.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Have the movie tie in edition. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, that's. That's that, like. Not to be like, that sells itself, but, like, that's, you know, that's in. That's in that's in Targets and Walmart and stuff like that. It's like. It's like. I didn't really. I didn't really view that one as a book launch just because it's. It's like a new cover. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: But it helps because, like, you know, you're like. You've done this before. Like.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Like, where can you buy the book? Or what's the book about? You're like, I could tell you a.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Little bit about the book.
Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Which you didn't actually get a tour really, for. For book one.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: I was. I think we. We might have spoken about it, but. But, yeah, it was all. It was 2020. Yeah. No one was traveling. No one was doing film festivals, and no one was doing book. Book tours.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: In 2020 when the book came out. So it's kind of a nice. It's a nice little. Five years later, Quasi Victory Lab to get to do it, which is nice and nice to get to, because. And for the second book, my daughter had just been born, so I didn't do a tour there.
I did for three, and I really, like. I left it all on the pain for three, just because I was, like, making up for lost time. But I like doing events. I like getting out and seeing people.
And Knoxville, which was the only, like, real book event. Book event, because it was a con. Like, I. I just didn't bring the right amount of books because I sold out a. I sold out a book one, like, by noon on, like, the Saturday, and it was, like, a Friday and Saturday con. Like, Friday was the preview night, and Saturday was the thing. So I was like.
I was just trying to sell people sequels to a book they, like, couldn't buy, which was great.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: Buy this now and then go back to your local.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: No. And hey, hey, To Knoxville's credit, they did, which is pretty cool. Yeah. And so it's just a. It's a neat.
I'm having to, like, Rene Renavigate, like, what my normal, you know, operating procedure is, because I think the movie is just, you know, I think you can conceptualize it and be like, oh, yeah, like. Like, a lot of people saw it this weekend, but, like, it's just so many more people than, like, books. You know what I mean? Like, it's so many more like. Like, you're. You're like. I think more people probably saw that movie this weekend. And the book's been out for five years. It was a very popular book. Like, the book, like, you know, is like, the third book. Hit the USA seller list. But I bet, I bet more, I bet more people saw the movie this weekend and have read the book and it's. And it was in it over a four day span. If you're counting Thursday. Like.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: Which is, which is cool. Which is really cool. But it's also kind of like a reminder to you like when you do events and stuff like that, it's like, oh yeah, this is like these are, these are hard movie forward events. These are not like hard book events.
But it's very cool. Anybody?
[00:06:35] Speaker A: You're, I mean obviously you're huge in horror films too. So it's not just, you know, that experience is pretty cool too, I bet. Yeah. But for people who don't know how did this experience. I know for, for me at least it's you know, Clown the Cornfield one wasn't even on the shelves yet before the book was optioned. Right?
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's. This has been like a long time gestating but also like with things like that. Like so, so Clown of the Cornfield just came out, was directed by Eli Craig who directed Tucker Dale vs Evil co written by him and screenwriter named Carter Blanchard. Wonderful people, wonderful writers.
Let me ask, can you hear my dog? He's barking.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Yeah, he's fine. It's, it's okay.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he'll, he'll stop in a second I think.
But he's created right now so we can talk. But so like those that don't know. Eli Craig co wrote the movie with Carter Blanchard. He directed it, he did Tucker Del versus Evil which is a great movie.
But this has been like in, in the works like since before the book even came out. And with things like that, like we had like a Deadline article I think like maybe the year the book came out like like 2020. Like like you know, the producers of Smile or. Yeah. Or you know, maybe it was 2021 because it was, it was whenever post Smile.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: Came out because it was Temple Hill Entertainment who had a big horror hit with Smile and they hadn't really done a ton of horror before that. They were mostly why adaptations. They were very high profile movies like the Hate U Give and Maze Runner and stuff like that. But I think Smile doing well kind of like, like pushed this project maybe a little bit further on their slate. But when you read Deadline articles and stuff like that, as a film fan you're kind of like, oh like you know, that's, that'll be cool but like we'll see if that ever actually happens. Like there's a. There's a lot of headlines in Variety and Hollywood Reporter and Deadline for movies that just don't exist, you know, like, that never end up existing.
So like, I, as a, as a film fan and a writer, I kind of was like, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. You know, Like, I very much, like, I took the, like when I was doing cons and stuff like that, and I would use that as like kind of a way in. People were like, oh, I heard this is going to be a movie. And I was like, I was very much like, yeah, it's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it. But then I also was like, in, you know, towards the end of our conversation, I'd always be like, well, but I always, I don't believe any movies real. Until I walked out of the. Walk out of the theater. Haven't seen it.
And then, and then flash forward to last year and like, and like going to Winnipeg while they were shooting and like seeing like hundreds of people like on the street and like, resetting the town is like kettle springs. And I'm like, I think maybe this is, I can get excited now because I think it's really gonna happen.
You know, that said, like, look, they make movies all the time and then like dump for tax purposes and stuff like that. So even that, even at that point, like, I was still a little guarded.
But yeah, I, I, it's been a, it's been a five year, I guess, process and I was, I was involved for a lot of it. Like, I read Carter's original script, I gave notes.
The second Eli came on as director, he like, he got in touch with me. We had a bunch of meetings and zoom windows like this.
Then he had, he had me on set. So, like, I feel very, like, supported and very included in the process, which is a really nice thing for an author to feel because it's not, it's not the norm. That's not, that's not. Or not, not even not the norm. But that's like, it's not a given, you know, it's not a given that like, you're gonna be welcome with open arms, like on the film side of things.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: But I think it helps it's a horror film too, because I feel like horror films are so much more like, I don't know, down to Earth or like these kind of like, yeah, indie feeling horror films because it's like those where I feel like, oh, we wouldn't be here without it. But like, if you were like, if you have a non horror book or something like say for example, maze Runner. I'm sure that was, it was produced a little differently than it probably.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure it was just a bigger thing. I mean we got, we don't have a lot of CGI in our movie. Like, and I think, I think, I think it's, it probably is a case by case basis and I think Temple Hill seems to be. I was just talking to them last night and I think that's. This is kind of their M.O. a little bit where they're like, no, we want, we want to be like creative partners with, with, with authors. Which is, is a cool thing.
But yeah, I don't know, it's. It's been a very, very neat thing and I've gotten, you know, within the, within the confines of just the last couple months, we're talking about like just touring and doing all this stuff. Like, I've gotten to kind of know like, you know, like on set I like made small talk with Kevin Duran and like, you know, like, and like, like said hi to the kids. Like, I like took like one picture with like, you know, I call them kids, but they're adults. But, but yeah, they're playing, they're playing the kettle springs kids in the movies. But like I, you know, I took one picture with like Carson and Katie and Cassandra and IO and. But like, but on this like tour I've gotten to like know these people a little bit more, be in interviews with them especially, especially Eli who, you know, I've been a fan of his for 15 years since. It's been 15 years since Tucker and Dale came out. And I was like day one at Best Buy on the Tuesday that DVD came out. So like, yeah, it's really a cool thing as it just is a. From a fan perspective and I just feel really good about their movie. It's nice to be able to like, because I'm doing, we're doing this even post release weekend. Like it's nice to even to be like doing press to the point where like. No, like, you know, I'm serious because like if I didn't like the movie, I wouldn't be doing this much press for it. Like, if I didn't like the movie, I wouldn't be like, yeah, you're like hiding in a corner somewhere on the book, you know. Like, I know, like I really am now.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean it's certified fresh. I mean that's something to say something about it right there.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: I mean that's one of those Pudding. A little bit, you know.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, right there. But yeah. It's funny how you mentioned how, like, it's only, like I say, only five years in this world we live in, of five years for a movie, from book to adaptation, being on the screen, I've said it before on this, and people who have listened Jay Bon and Singer had the killers game picked up 30 years ago. Something like that.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, No, I understand. I understand the grand scheme of things. Five years is actually very fast for this kind of stuff. I do. I really do. I do understand that. So I'm not. I'm not being. I'm not being. No, no, no. I'm not ungrateful in that perspective. But five years is five years, you know, like.
Yeah, well, it's a lot.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: I mean, because you get to see it too. You're like. You're hoping in the same thing.
It's like when we talked about, I'm closing, I just closed on the house. And it's like when they accept your offer, you're still. That 30 days or so before you.
The paperwork. We're like, this still could not happen. And I'm, like, not telling people.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's. That's the same thing. Like, I hope I have a movie.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: It'd be really cool to see that.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: But I mean, so that this, this week, it's come and gone. I mean, the premieres have happened, people have gone out and seen it. You've seen social media reactions, stuff like that. I mean, are you relieved now? A little bit, yeah.
[00:13:16] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. And. And just. Even just like, not to make it all about money, but, like, the fact that we did well at the box office is like, that was what it was all for, you know, not what it was all for, but it was like, you. You just want a film to be seen. Like, so many movies, especially in this. In this. In this climate, in this day and age, there are huge movies. There are huge movies with big movie stars that have. That came out a month ago, that if I told you the name of the movie, you'd be like, that came out already. Like, you. You, like, literally wouldn't know. You know what I mean? Like, so the idea that we somehow to some, on some level, broke through, like, the consciousness to get people out of their houses, off their asses to go pay 20 bucks plus a, you know, plus a babysitter, like, to go see the movie is like, wow, we did it. You know, like.
And not. Not we, not we. Like, like, I'm not Leading the pack there.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: You know, the. The RLJ and Shudder and IFC's incredible PR people and Eli and all the actors. Like, everyone was leaving it on the paint for this, you know, so like, just the. Just watching it and just being like.
It's such a weird, like, Schrodinger's box kind of cat kind of thing where it's like, all right, we did. We spent, you know, three months talking about this in, like, into microphones. I'm sure plenty of other people have spent three months talking about that. Like, that. Like, just no one goes to see. Like, so, like, it was like, you know, that Friday. That Thursday night. Yeah. I got, like, a text, like, at like, 1:30 in the morning, like, into. Into Friday after Thursday from, like, one of the producers who was just, like, looking good. Like, you know, like. And it just was such a relief because, like, that was the first you'd heard of it. There weren't even any, like, public numbers out. But it was like, yeah. And again, it's not all. It's not all the money, but the money is a reflection of how many people and people, you know, caring. So that was just. It was just a cool. It's a nice thing. Like, and it's not, you know, it's not like, you know, it's not like we're thunderbolts or anything, but, like, the, like, this idea of breaking through and getting people to actually care and come out.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: And the fact that people are enjoying the movie is awesome. Like, it's just a really neat.
You know, we knew that's the thing. I know it's a good movie. I really like the movie. So, like, that wasn't even the concern. The concern was being like, but really no go. Like. Like. But really, like, as long as we can get. It's like, presence is all that matters. Like, because once the presence is like, then Eli and his. And company take over. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: You know, we.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: We.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: I live in. So I live in Maine. And. And I live in. I live in the community. I work in the community of University of Maine. So the university is right here.
And we have multiple movie theaters. And I even reached out to you and was like, hey, do you have. Is there a place where I can find. Because a lot. Even, like, the regional small theaters, the very, like, independent theaters that are not like, your AMCs or those kind of places. I didn't even see that they were getting into, like, Tuesday, like, Tuesday morning. It was like, okay, look at this weekend. These are the tickets that are going to be on sale.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: Exactly. That's when for. For a movie like this that, you know, like, so people were asking me, and I just had to kind of keep. I just had to keep answering like, it's gonna be there.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: When we. When we really didn't, you know, I'm sure. I'm sure you can make a movie about the. The two weeks leading up to release and them just like, going around and trying, like, their damnedest to get theaters, like, you know, because the theatrical number, the number of screens kind of kept going up in, like, emails. But, like, up until that Tuesday, you weren't really sure, like, how many it was going to be. Like. And I was. I remember just kind of fandangoing around here and stuff. Like.
Like they're telling me, like, don't worry, Adam. It's gonna be there. Like, you don't. You don't know until you see it. Like, it's so many things you don't know until you, like, it's. And then, you know, and it, like, it's in all the theaters.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: And I was planning my road trip about three hours from here to go see it, because I'm like, I don't know. It's like this rural.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: Yeah, luckily. Yeah, no, luckily, we got. We got to you in Maine. We got to you and, and, and. And Mr. King. We, like, we were like, no, we got one right there. We got.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: It was great. And it's funny thing is, seeing that and seeing that, I actually talked to, like, a friend of a friend who knows someone at the local theater, like, who runs the local theater, and he said it was actually pretty good turnout at the theater in Maine, too. And it was graduation weekend up here, like, university.
And so thinking about that too, I'm like, I don't know if that influenced it. Like, people are like, oh, I mean, Maine, for my graduation, I might as well go see it at this theater because I really want to see it. Or some people are like, oh, I'll still go out and do something, because I don't want to go over here to this restaurant because.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
And you're. And you're competing against a bunch. Yes. There's a bunch of people who are like, no, I've got a graduation party, or no, I've got it. Like, like, so, like, you never know. And it's.
That's the thing. It's like these. It's these minute to minute, week to week, hour to hour. Like, no one knows. No one knows anything. You know, like the William Goldman thing. Like, no, One, you know, you could do all these projections. You can do all the promotion. And it's like, yes, yes. The. The film crew. And it's like, well, what do we. What do you think is gonna happen? They're just like.
And it's. You know, and then it's a happy ending.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: We.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: I probably would have canceled this podcast if I didn't. If I wasn't able to tell these stories, I probably would have been like this. I'm not doing it.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: I don't do this.
Yeah. I mean, so did they text you and say, o successful. We're ready for clown. Clown on the cornfield too. Is that what's going on now? Is that.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's nice. Nice try with that. Nice try getting that hot scoop.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Here's the deal. It's one of those things that it did not say. This is not me speaking for you and this. I'm speaking for anything. But the success in the box office and actually doing well doesn't hurt the fact.
That's what I'm saying.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. We have not had those. We have not had those specific conversations yet. And if we did, I don't think I'd say. Yeah, I don't think, you know, like, I think.
I think. Yeah, that's first. You know, that could be. That would be an instant. No. Or an instant barrier if it didn't, like. And we were over that hurdle. So don't. Yes, that, you know, then moving on to the next problem.
Yes.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: That's awesome. It's such a cool thing to see it. I think it's one of those things. We've got to know each other a little bit over the years and you've been on the podcast a number of times and obviously I'm a huge fan. I've got, obviously all the books over here. We've got German editions and French editions and all that stuff that's just.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't even notice. I see.
Yeah. French and German. Look at that. Wow. You're completely set dressed for this.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: It's. It's one of those things. And I'm packing, so I'm like putting books away. And I'm like, oh, I can't put those books away. I gotta. I gotta get those out there and see those out there now, like I said, I have number one, but I needed the movie tie in edition and.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: That Fievel goes West. Is that a laserdisc?
[00:19:29] Speaker A: It's a laser disc.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: I knew it was gonna be like an LP or something.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: It's a signed by Philip Glaser. So yeah, yeah. And I met Rufio a couple weeks ago. So Rufio signed my hook vhs. But yeah, see, we gotta get this at some point. I gotta, I don't know, I mean those people who make those clown those modern day movies into VHS is. I want to clown the cornfield vhs.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Oh, you want it here? You want to see something real cool? Look, I literally didn't know even need to get up. I just unpacked my bag. I unpacked my bag to take my headphones. Yeah.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: For you. I want to see this thing.
Look at that.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: I love this. I love the font on the top.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah, that's amazing. That is such a cool. It's just like. But those are the vhs. This is one of those things that I go to a convention or something like that and I get the chance to meet someone that I've, you know, grew up viewing or something like that and I'm like, if they had a VHS version of something, I'm buying that vhs. If I don't already have it and getting it signed. Like I had, you know, my screen VHS behind me and things like that. So. So like, you know, there's certain ones that I'm like, I need this VHS sign and my wife's like, stop collecting new.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: I'm like, I'm not just collecting VHS.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Tapes on old formats.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: He was so nice. He said he, he said he saw this, he saw the movie and then he had to work in the morning. He saw the movie on Friday night and then he had to work in the morning on Saturday before going to the con. But he stayed up all night to make this after seeing the movie. Oh, there's even a. Look, there's even a thing.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Oh yeah, sticker on the front. Yeah, a sticker.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: He says a completely blank tape. So when there. Okay, what it is streaming, I could just dupe it onto it.
I can make my own actual functional vhs.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I would love it to be just like actual like a random movie. Like you put it, it's like Barbie or something.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You put it in just. It's, it's just Jazzer size tape. But. Yeah, no, that's.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Those are, that's so cool. I think it's one of those things that like obviously we know the quality of VHS tape is not how you really want to watch a movie.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: The slasher style movies, this, horror movies. Yeah, I could see that with like, you know, some, some you know, tracking issues or something like that in there. I just Add to the whole atmosphere of watching the, Watching the film. But I just think it's a cool thing. And when people like, oh, you can get a, you know, get a picture signed or whatever, I'm like, you only have so much space to store pictures and stuff like that. So like, I always want that extra weird thing. And so, like, the laserdisc for an example was something different to get signed. And I've gotten like cassette tapes and VHS tapes and things like that signed.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: Because I'm the same way. I've got, yeah, I've got. I got Malcolm McDowell up there. I've got Caligula, but I've got the LP. Yeah, like, I get different stuff signed.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah, you get it signed because it's a. It's a cool thing. It's. A lot of times I've done like at local conventions, I've done help with graphics or I've run panels or things like that. And in exchange, I'm like, I don't want any money. So exchange. They give me these old tickets. I walk up to the, to the, to the celebrity or whoever and give them the ticket and they're like, cool. And they sign something for free so I don't have to pay for it. The convention pays for it. And so that's like my. I'm like, I don't want to put money. Just give me a couple of those tickets. I'll go. I met Jay Peterman from some Seinfeld recently and he signed. The thing was, it was just so funny. Those are the fun things. I'm like, I'll make it, meet a couple of people and be fun wearing those.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: I like, I like doing it. Yeah, I'll do it. I've slowed down on it, but I usually, I usually go. I usually go to a con and I say, like one, like one person per con. And I've, I've. Because I'm losing. I have less wall space. I do less 8 by tens and stuff like that. I do a lot of movies. I do like, if someone's. If someone I really loves in a movie. Like, I did like pretty recently. A couple years ago, I did Barbara Hershey. And I like, I try to not to get them to sign, like, you know, the thing. They sign all the time. So I got Barbara Hershey, who was like this horror convention, like, like this wonderful, you know, Titanic actor, like keeping. Having to sign the entity like, like over and over again. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna bring you, I'm gonna bring you Last Temptation To Christ. Like, you know, like, I was like, you know, and. And ditto. Like, I think I met Biling and I had her sign Southland Tales. Yes. Love that movie.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: Well, we had, we had Gabe after his Gabe, who was, uh, in Spawn. I forget his name now. I forgive me on that. But he was up here at our convention for us. But he was the, he was the kid in Pet Sematary. So. Yeah, yeah, Gage. He's signing all the Pet Cemetery vhs and some DVDs and a lot of stuff. And I brought him Spawn because he's a kid in Spawn. And so I was like, here, I want to mix this up. I got my Wild Thornberries movie back here somewhere. I have a Wild Thornberry. Danielle Harris always has signs Halloween. And I'm like, no, you're signing. You're signing my Wild Thornberries there. You're like, she's signing half naked photos.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: And I'm like, one would hope they appreciate it a little bit. But also just might. Us. It just might be us trying to be like film guys and being like, yeah.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: David Goodman, who, who wrote a bunch of stuff, he writes comics and stuff that he came on Talk Comics. He signed a Wings DVD for me because he wrote a couple episodes on the season of Wings. And like, see, I'm trying to, trying to mix it up a little bit, throw it all out there. But no, now, now, now you'll be signing DVDs and books and all that stuff. Yeah. You know, when those things come out.
But it's really cool. I mean, I think it's a really cool thing to see it now. Now this is on theater screens. It'll be out there for a little while. People can go see it. Obviously it gets people to potentially read the book over again. I know I did. I read the whole series over again, leading in, you know, to it. And it was really cool. Actually. What I did was I listened to the audiobooks now because I've read the physical novel, so I've actually get to see that.
[00:24:40] Speaker B: Well, Jesse does a great job on that. Yeah, she's great. Yeah.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And so, you know, and so on and so forth. But yeah, so now I know you're working on some more and things like that.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: And then I can say it, because I've said it now a couple times, but it's clown 4, colon, lights, camera, friendo is the. Is the. The subtitle. And then I have a book after that. It's either going to be late 2026, early 2027. It's a vampire novel oh, yeah. I've been wanting to do it for a really long time. It's called Blood Sick. And I sold that to.
I had a really good time with Union Square.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Doing the paperback version of Influencer.
And I, and I, I think I, I think we had a good. I have a good relationship with them and I've. I like their whole team and I like my editor over there. So we were like, let's, let's keep going. So Blood Sick. And then that's actually in a two book deal. So I don't know what the book after Bloodstick's gonna be, but they're. They're my home for a little while now. Especially for the non clown stuff.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: So we, I worked well, I mean, I know them, not know them, but we've talked back and forth with them because they did pay the Piper and so with Daniel Krause and George Romero. So we did the beer for my brewery. We did the beer with him for that one too.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: And probably can't do the beer for Bloodstick because it's a novel again.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: When you write your adult novel, that's what we actually could be able to do. It's the same thing. I'm like, oh, we'll do a clown. The Cornfit. We can't do that. We'll do Influencer one can't do that.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Like, it's like you do the movie. I mean, it's an R rated movie. It's so funny. The. It's, it's like, it's like Cole says in the movie when he's like, he's like, well, realistically, everyone drinks it.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: That's the truth and that's the net, you know, whatever. So we did a graduation beer. Every year we do a graduation beer for a couple of those. We did it like, just arbitrary because we're like, we didn't do like colors to it. Like, we didn't do the color of the school. Whatever. Just a happy graduation or whatever. And we're like. Because we don't know someone graduating.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah, hopefully. These are not high schools.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: We're not committing a crime here.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: I'm like, whatever. But no, it's kind of funny how that is. And yeah, it's. And so, yeah, we just did Night Birds with Daniel. Daniel Cross, Christopher golden for that one. We did the release down in New Hampshire. We went down and he did a good conversation there. And he's gonna be up here.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: He's awesome. I just, I've known him for a long time, but I Feel like I never had like a, a really long conversation with him until we were. He moderated the panel that I was on at this year's Reader Scares of Care. Reader con or author con. And he, he was just, he's just.
[00:26:58] Speaker A: Delightful, delightful guy, super smart. He's very nice. He's just. Yeah, it's really cool. And he did, did events in New England with, with Eric Nunneley and Paul Tremblay down and done an unlikely story. But he's gonna be up here with Clay McLeod Chapman here in Maine at the end of May, which is really cool. I'm excited to see him again do that. But yeah, it's a fun thing. But yeah, I'll do one with Adam. Because you were at like one of the inaugural events that had the beer at it.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that was, I think that was the first. I think that was, was that, was that on sale day? I think that might have been, yes, it might have been. He might have been doing other stuff, but I think that might have been the. Or maybe it wasn't.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: It was right around. It was either like the second event.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: Or first or second day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: He probably said he probably did Chicago first, then maybe came to Pennsylvania after that. But yeah, it's a fun experience and people love it and people are like, oh, this is kind of cool. I'm like, yeah, that's a really neat thing. Yeah, so I'll write it.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: I'll write an adult book eventually and we'll do it.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, speaking of books, also, like, well, as we feel, you know, getting close to wrapping this up right here, but you Toxic adventure novelization coming out too, right? I mean, that's pretty exciting.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: Forget about it. Yeah.
And not, not for lack of excitement. I just haven't had it. I haven't had a chance to promote it. I don't even think I've like the pre order links out. I don't even think I tweeted it out yet. But yeah, I. So they remade the Toxic Avenger.
Macon Blair, wonderful writer, director, wrote and directed it. It stars Peter Dinklage, Kevin Bacon, a bunch of other very familiar, very cool faces. Um, Elijah Wood. I, I, I was approached, I was approached by Titan, who does a lot of tie in stuff and novelizations for a different tie in. Like it was a video game thing and it was a very like, it was a very interesting property. Like something I probably would have really liked to do, but I was very busy at the time. I just said I was like look, man, I can't. Like, I, you know, I, I kind of talked it over with my family and was basically like, I don't, I can't do this. I don't have the time to do this. And I, and I, and I, and I had to tell him through my agent, but I was like, but I know you guys do, because I like, look through their catalog and they do a lot of stuff with legendary films. They do like all the, the Godzilla and Kong novelizations and things.
So I was like, okay, well, you have, you have like the Inn at Legendary. And I knew just through film fandom, I was like, this is way before. This is four years ago now, probably. Yeah, I knew that they were, that they were going to try to remake the Toxic Avengers. And I told him, I told the editor. I was like, look, I can't do this, but I would bend my rules and rearrange my schedule if there was a way. There was a shot at like, you're probably not gonna. Who would novelize the talk. Who would. What. What kind of lunatic would, would release a novelization for the big budget remake of the Toxic Avenger? Like, why would you. That's not literature. Why would you do that? Like, but I was like, but if there's any way you're interested in that or you're gonna try to do that, that don't even look for other authors. I was like, don't even send out queer agents. I'm your guy. Like, I was like, I was literally like, I was like, do not do that, please. I'll do it. Like, sight unseen, will barely negotiate. Like, I'll do it.
And then like, like three days later, the editor sent me an NDA and the NDA. And in the email with the NDA, it said, sign this NDA, but you already know what this is. And I was like, all right, now. Yeah. So like, so I wrote it. I got to, I based it on making script. And this was before they, they didn't. Hadn't even started shooting the movie yet.
So based on making script. And then as they were shooting the movie, I was getting like, pictures of like, it's like set, like, design photograph. Like, what Toxy looked like. What the. There's a lot of like, cool, like, gang members. There's like a lot of very trauma stuff in the movie. Like, so like, basically like, they just kept sending me, like, you know, like, oh, this doesn't match the script. So here's a picture, like, you know, so I was able to make it very faithful to the thing to the movie.
I. I wrote my first draft and then I was able to see an early draft of the early, early cut of the movie.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:58] Speaker B: And then kind of. Because that if anyone's been following that at all, there's, there's been a little like, you know, with. There's been studio politics. It's not the movie, is it? Like anyone who follows that and thinks it's like oh, this movie was on the shelf. It's not that it's like yeah, it's like this movie was like uses like a bargaining chip between like different places and like. Yeah. And I think there were a lot of different players involved.
But Cineverse, who released the terrifier movies.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: Kind of swooped in and. And rescued this movie is giving it a theatrical release in September, I believe.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah, August.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: It's August. The movie comes out and then the book comes out like the Tuesday after the movie.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's August 29th.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: August 29th and then. Yeah, September 2nd.
Yeah. Yep, exactly. Thank you. You know better than I do.
So like. So that's. Yeah. September 2nd the book comes out and I'm really, really proud of it. Yeah, it's, it's.
To say it's weird is an understatement. Like because it's like the movie's weird and it's an adaptation of the movie. But like I, I was very lucky in that like making Blair like gave me notes and stuff like that. Like. And some of his notes are like it's clearly just him on his phone.
Like, and some of his notes are just like hahaha, very funny. Like, like that's like that's like a note I got and I was like okay, cool, I'll keep that part. Like so like I just, I did a lot of formally interesting stuff. We'll say. I don't want to say what it is because we're still months and months out from the book. But I did. There's some stuff like, like if you've read like some of the weirder novelizations like Gremlins to the new batch, there's stuff approaching that level of oddness in this book. Because I'm just such a huge fan of Trauma, I didn't want it to just be a straight.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: One to one adaptation. Like it's, it's, you know, it is everything that happens in the movie happens in the book, you know, to a legal degree.
And then every, and then there's a lot of other stuff because you got to fill stuff out. It's a Quick movie. It's like, it's like an 85 minute movie. And they wanted, you know, a full novel, full length novel. So there's some stuff that I was able to, I won't even say sneak in there because like I said, making Reddit, he's cool with it. Like, there's some stuff I was able to, you know, add and, and mess around with.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: That I felt very lucky because I kind of handed in the first draft and was like, there's no, there's no way. Like, they're gonna be like, there's like, I think there's literally like nine chapters in this book that take. That are from a very odd POV that I'm like, they're gonna make me take those out. Like, and I kind of wrote them thinking that they were gonna get cut out. So I wrote them being like, well, the whole novel won't crumble if they make me cut these parts.
Yeah, I, I'm pretty sure they're in it. Like, I haven't seen like arcs yet, but like, I'm pretty sure that's all there. Like, so. Yeah. So it's a, it's a very fun, very weird, very trauma esque book.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: That's so cool.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: Great. It's a great thing. Yeah.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's so, it's just so cool because you're a fan of obviously movies and then trauma and then like that to actually be able to work in that universe. It's kind of.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it's an honor. And that's why. That's where I shot my shot. I didn't think, like, I didn't think two days later I was gonna get an email saying I could do it, but the guy was just like. I was just like, just in case. I was like, just in case you guys are going to do a toxic event or novelization, I would really like to do it.
And it worked out. So that's a good, there's a good, there's a good writing tip. Good publishing tip.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: If you think someone has something you want.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Just ask for it, you know? Yeah, exactly. It can't hurt. And it. Otherwise it can. Yeah.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Until someone's like, wait, we're doing this? But someone mentioned to us a long time ago that they wanted to do this.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Luckily I was fresh in their mind. Like, they must have just had that meeting. Meeting.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: That's what they said immediate to you. Like, maybe we'll do it, maybe we won't. But let's get this out to him right now. So we don't forget.
[00:34:32] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: So you have that coming out at the. The beginning of September. I'm guessing there's gonna be a paperback release at some point of Clown in the Cornfield three. At some point.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: I don't. It doesn't have a date.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: It's not announced.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think they're usually about a year, so it's probably. It's probably leading into the Halloween season. There will be one, I think. I. I haven't. I should. I should email my editor about it now. I think he's kind of leaving me alone a little bit because of.
Because I'm supposed to be writing for. So I think. I think that's why I have. I don't know, but I'll email.
My best guess would be, you know.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Some of this fall. Yeah.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: Late August. September. Just so it's on shelves for. For Halloween. Yeah, would. Would. Would be my guess. And I know there's a lot of people that are waiting on it. I know a lot of people don't. Can't do the hardcover. That's just. Yeah. It's just, you know, it's company policy. I don't, I don't. I don't control that.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: And, you know, some people want that. Like me. I want the hardcover, so I want them all to band.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: And then some people are just like.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: You know, I meet them the time and I like. I understand. I'm like, I. I'm a collector. I. I know.
And I. You know, having to move with books is like. It's not even a money thing at that point because, like, YA paperbacks are pretty cheap. Like, it ends up with tax. It ends up being like three bucks more.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Than the. Than the paperback. So it's not even like prohibitively expensive.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: It's just that people just don't, like, esthetically or.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: Functionally holding it or whatever.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: To me, I'm like, they hold up better. I just moved 12 boxes of books to the new.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah, you're moving.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:55] Speaker B: Yeah. You're regretting those hardcovers right now.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: It's like all my Stephen Kings are hardcover. All that.
[00:36:00] Speaker B: Like, it's like, are you moving pretty far from where you are now?
[00:36:02] Speaker A: 35 minutes. So it's not too bad, but like, we're going back every weekend.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: That's not nothing. That's not like, you can't pop over.
[00:36:08] Speaker A: No, no, no. So it's one of those things are like shoving everything in the car and I'm putting everything in and there's a built in bookshelf. I'm unloading the books.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Oh, that.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Reuse the books, you know what, the boxes.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: So yeah, that's, you know what, that's an upgrade though. That's awesome.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: Until my wife was like, well, there's no more room. You can't buy any more books. I'm like, I don't know.
But yeah, it's pretty funny. It's awesome. And I'm guessing, I don't know, you'll have obviously a date at some point in the future for Clown of the Cornfield four, but you're writing it right now.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: So I think the goal is, the goal is, the goal is always two years apart. These books have been like clockwork, like almost to the week, almost to the weekend, like two, two years apart. So, you know, I, I don't want to over promise, you know, because, because like I've never been this kind of late on one before.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: But I also, like, I know that I'm not gonna rush the, the date will move before the book gets worse. You know what I mean? Like, I, I, I, I only want to write a good book. So like, like, if we have to move, we have to move it. I don't think we will. I hope we don't. That I pray every night we don't because there's still a lot of, there's still a lot of, still a lot of game left, you know, Still a lot of time left. And I'm over, I'm over like the halfway mark. It's not like I'm, yeah, it's not like, it's not like that's not like.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: A.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: A, you know, full approved outline. I'm like, I'm over halfway done. It, it probably will be 20, 26.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Well, Adam's signing off this podcast and he's gonna be like, okay, what should I write about?
[00:37:31] Speaker B: What should this one be? Yeah, no, no, I, I, I, I have a, I have a plan.
Insane, but I have a plan.
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: Every one of them gets more insane in that sense.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Too bad.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: It's all, it's all good for us as a fans of the book and the series.
And now we have a movie, which is really cool because I feel like there's another whole. To me, it's a avenue for people to get in to read the book because there's a whole. We mentioned the whole mentioned about the idea that there's probably more people who have seen the movie now than they've even read the book. And so in that sense, you can now have the People who go out there and be like, you know what? I want to. You know, I'm reading the Martian right now, saw the movie first. So, like, it's one of those things. It's like.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: No, it's.
It's. I.
I met so many people this. This weekend that. That's the case. And I. And I. And I. And I really appreciate them and, and, and I. And I'm so glad the movie's good so that it drives people to. To want to read the book, which is great because the book is a pretty.
Pretty different experience. Like, yeah, the. The characters and the. The characters in the story are the same, but, like, the. The tone is way different. And, you know, and I think there's. There's slight, tiny changes like that that will, like, have repercussions if there were going to be sequels to the film that'll, like, kind of keep everything on its own path in its own universe, which is nice for me as an author, because it doesn't. Nothing gets supplanted in a reader's mind of like, oh, was that the movie? Or is that the book? Like, you're probably gonna remember, which is great.
Yeah. And I'm just. I'm just a big fan of Eli, and I'm just a big fan of the movie. Big fan of everyone in the movie, especially. Especially Katie Douglas. I think she's just so good as Quinn.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: That I, you know, my. My selfishness of, like, wanting to see sequels is. Is partly just wanting to see her.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Do more kicking of asses. That's awesome. Yeah.
[00:39:14] Speaker A: I think we talked about this last time you run, but my daughter's middle name is Quinn, after Quinn Maybrook. So there's a. There's a little bit of a, you know, an obsession over here for me, too, so I would love to see more, too, but just.
[00:39:24] Speaker B: No, I'm really happy. I hope Katie does her proud. And. Yeah. Yeah, she won't see it for a.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: While because she just turned one, but.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: Well, now.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: She'll get there, though. Maybe.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: Maybe I could bring her right now. She would never even know what's going on.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Exactly. True. That's true. Yeah. You don't probably don't even have to buy her a ticket.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: You can sneak in, just walk around.
Do you have a copy at your house that you get to watch or do you have to go to the theaters to watch it again? Right now?
[00:39:46] Speaker B: That's a good question. I think I had a screener link that I. I is probably dead.
[00:39:49] Speaker A: Probably dead now. But are you gonna go to the theaters?
[00:39:53] Speaker B: I've seen it maybe. Well, I'm gonna see it one more time. Because I'm gonna see it.
I'm gonna see it at least one more time because I'm seeing it at the Colonial Theater here in Phoenixville. Penny is on on Wednesday as we record this on a Monday. On Wednesday, we're doing a.
It's gonna be a cool screening because it's gonna be in the same theater that the Blob ate. The Blob ate this movie theater in the 1950s in the Steve McQueen blob.
[00:40:17] Speaker A: That's awesome.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: Friendo's coming to town now, so it's gonna be. Yeah, I've seen the movie like, I see the movie like nine times now. Yeah, so like, so. And it plays awesome every time. So, like, I'm not bored of it.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: So that's awesome.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: What's stopping all your listeners from going the third or fourth time?
[00:40:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, let's go. People like, every time see it in different theaters, different experiences bring new people. You know, see it on one weekend, read the book over the week and then go see it the next weekend. You know, that kind of thing.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah, there we go. Now Jess has got it.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:45] Speaker A: And then read the sequels and all that stuff. It's. They're, they're phenomenal. But yeah, I mean, your books are available everywhere, so, you know, I would highly recommend grabbing the Clown Cornfield series. I just read 0 lives remaining this weekend.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: So I have to send an email.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: About that book, actually, right when we get off the phone. So I get my email, try to get my backlist back out there.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So I, I, yeah, I mean, I'm in for, for everything. And Influencers.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: That's a New England one. That's New New Hampshire. That's not that far from you. Yeah, not far at all.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: There you go.
It's a fun, It's a fun, fun little book. It's short, it's easy to read, quick, quick read and so on. So if I have on my list to read other ones too. I've read a bunch of your stuff, but like, I'm looking forward to it. But clown, the core field's great. People can pick up Influencer. You just put up there paperbacks out.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: And that one audiobook's great too.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: This is the new ha. Honest. Yeah.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And then. Yeah, and then, yeah, we'll see Toxic Avenger this summer and Clown the Cornfield in the future.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: We're killing it, man. And I'll. And I'LL have many more podcasts to come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: I'm hoping you go back to comics at some point too. I would like to see. I got Dead Mall back here, but.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: I want to see some more comics. I love writing comics. I love writing comics. It's. It's. We'll see. I'm. My schedule's packed, but we'll.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no, I'm not pressuring you because I want it to be good. So don't write. Squeeze it in.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: But we'll, you know, make it happen.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: I want the clown. The Cornfield Comic book adaptation is what I want. But.
[00:42:02] Speaker B: But we'll see. I. I want to do that, but I don't want to do it out of te. I want to do a spin off. That's my, like, my goal is like, I don't.
People, People have asked.
The people have already asked and I'm not.
[00:42:12] Speaker A: No, I can make sense in it.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: If it's not. If it's not additive.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: Yes. You know what I mean?
[00:42:16] Speaker B: Like if it's not. If it's just another adaptation of the same story, I'm not as interested in it.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Tell that short story that. That can't be a full book. But, but I have a few of those. Yeah.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: Those that kind of would tie into do the main series that I would like to do. So that's, that's, that's my perspective on that. But there's nothing, there's nothing inked on that.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: Yeah, but.
[00:42:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but for all the updates you can go to, you can find them on Instagram, all that stuff.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Instagram, Tick tock. All this. All this stuff. You can't get away.
Yeah. Adam Caesar, everywhere.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: You can find him on his website. You can buy stuff. You can buy signed copies of the book.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Signed copies through my. Which I. That's another thing I got to do when I get off the phone with you. Do I gotta go to the bookstore and sign some books? So. Yeah, I work with a local bookstore called Children's Book World and they'll ship. As long as you're in the U.S. they'll ship. Ship. Signed and personalized books wherever.
[00:43:06] Speaker A: That's awesome. That's really cool. So exciting. I appreciate it. Congratulations. Your film, your adaptations on this move.
[00:43:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Next time I talk to you, it'll be in a different place.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: I'll be in a different studio. Yeah, it'd be great. I have your own space of their news place too, so it'll be great. But yeah. Thank you so much for taking the time out to talk. Clown on the cornfield. The movie and so much more. I'll get you back on the future. Thanks, Adam.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: Thank you, Justin.
