#226: Clown in a Cornfield Movie Review

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com, i'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles at galactic comics and collectibles.com Speaking of that, we welcome Paul Eaton of Galactic Comics and Collectibles to this episode to chat. The Clown in the Cornfield movie, which has been adapted from the Adam Caesar novel that is one of my favorite books of all time, and Paul loves it as well. So we discussed the adaptation. So some similarities between the book and the movie, the movie itself, and so much more right here on the Capes and Tights podcast. But before you listen, check us out on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Blue sky threads, all those places. Rate, review, subscribe over on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you find your podcast. You can also find us on YouTube and as always, you can check us out on Capesintights.com for so much more reviews, countdowns, more episodes of the podcast and all that stuff. But this is the Clown in the Cornfield movie review in discussion with Paul Eaton of Galactic Comics and Collectibles. Enjoy, everyone. Welcome to the podcast. Paul Eaton, Galactic Comics and Collectibles Back. It's been a while. Yeah, I keep pushing you off these more important people. Come on. [00:01:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. That's what I always joke about in here. When people see, like, the capes entice advertising stuff, I said, yeah, this is, you know, my buddy Justin's podcast, and every time he runs out of famous people, he has some schmuck that owns a comic store on or I have. [00:01:29] Speaker A: You all, I have him scheduled, and then I get another famous person. So I put it off to the side. [00:01:33] Speaker B: It's schmuck. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Out of the way. Move out of the way. Get out of the way. Paul. Paul, people, I talk to you every week. [00:01:39] Speaker B: I don't need to have you on the podcast. Get that out of the way. [00:01:41] Speaker A: I already know I've caught up with your life. I don't need to know anything more about you right now. You know, we've talked about what movies you've been seeing and so on and so forth. No, it's been just. I think it's scheduling, really. I think it's like you had things going on, I had things going on, so on and so forth, and so it didn't actually work. [00:01:56] Speaker B: I think you want a month of stuff that you had me trying to squeeze in and I couldn't get on. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Yep. Which is usually pretty. I mean, you're one of the few people where I'm like, hey, Paul Monday, you want to record, like, cool, sounds good. I'll put it in. And we do it. And then it's just like, you know, and then we're getting to that season of summer where the kids are out of school and things are different and so on and so forth. And so there's that, too. But yeah, so it's a. We're here, we're talking, we're gonna chat. Movies. It's funny. It's always funny because in our cold. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Opening, all we do now, it's always movies. [00:02:26] Speaker A: We. In our cold opening, we talk about how it's sponsored by Galactic Comics and Collectibles. So it's always weird when we talk about Galactic Comics and Collectibles on the podcast. But yeah, we're. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Look, it's Galactic Comics and Collectibles. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And we're getting close to Galacticon, too. Look at that. [00:02:38] Speaker B: Holy smoke, I got the glidecon shirt on today. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Look at that. Have you changed? I think it's all you've worn for the past, like, three weeks. [00:02:45] Speaker B: I just own 100 of these now. I go to the closet, I slide them aside. Like, I picked this one. They're all the same. [00:02:51] Speaker A: So we're not sponsored by this company. But I am going to give a shout out to Fright Rags. Oh, my Clown in the Cornfield T shirt. [00:02:59] Speaker B: That's sick. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. Freight Rags hat is the only official people who have Crown the Cornfield merchandise. And I ordered this Tuesday maybe, and it came on Saturday, so it's super fast. I was super pumped about getting in, so I'm pretty pumped about that. And yeah, and there's an option to just clown in the cornfield. There's one different ones. There's a poster and all that stuff. I opted to go with the more just the Friendo head friendo and do that instead. But yeah, so Superman. Paul. No, I'm kidding. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah, so let's discuss Superman. That I watched for no reason. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Well, I watched it. We've watched it. I've watched it like, I think twice now because we watched it like two months ago to do an episode. And it was gonna be an episode. [00:03:47] Speaker B: Well, we're gonna do it for Superman Day, right? And then it got. Then we're like, well, we'll do it for the Superman release movie. And then we still watch it. Haven't discussed it. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Well. And it's. It's only. It's. It's timing. It's happenstance I think too, it's not just that we don't want to review it. It's, it's. I had a sick kid or something along the lines where I had to cancel. And so we canceled that episode. Hey, you know, whatever, we'll move on. And then we rescheduled it. We couldn't reschedule it. And then this episode was going to be Superman, but then I was like, hey, Paul, if you can get to the theaters with Liz and see Clown in the Cornfield, let's do Clown in the Cornfield instead. [00:04:21] Speaker B: Look at what I got to do yesterday. [00:04:23] Speaker A: And so I was happy to see that on there. So I didn't have to watch Superman again last night? No. Or this morning. [00:04:30] Speaker B: Watch it like 15 times in a row. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Is that gonna skew this movie? [00:04:34] Speaker B: You're like, no. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Well, I was like, are we gonna like skew our opinion on that movie? Whether we like it a lot more because we've seen it three or four times before reviewing it, you know, recently? Or are we gonna hate it more because we're like, God damn it, I just want to get this freaking review over with and move on. [00:04:47] Speaker B: I've seen this movie so many damn times now. [00:04:49] Speaker A: You just record like three minutes for a three minute review right now and get it over with and then release it as a bonus episode. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Reviser. Things, stuff happens. It was over and I was glad. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Krypton? No, Krypton. Superman. Isn't that the one with. He has a thing in his. Oh, it's Iron Man. Nevermind. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:10] Speaker A: So Clown in the Cornfield, based on a novel by Adam Caesar, who was actually last week's episode. So when you listen to this episode, Adam was on talking about the adapting of his film, which was actually sought to be adapted prior to the release of the actual novel, which is something we talked about. So I'm in a horror book club with the Briar Patch, Gibron Graham's Briar Patch, and this stuff we talked about. We recently talked about how it's more and more common nowadays where these, these, these big studios are trying to go out and above and beyond and prior to the, the success of the novel, like, okay, this is going to be good. So it's like publishers are going out there and it's happening in comic books now too. It's publishers are going out there and saying, we're going to take a risk on this property. You know, we're going to take a risk. [00:05:56] Speaker B: It. We'll say this is going to be. [00:05:58] Speaker A: A good one, is minor Threats for an example, Minor threats of Dark Horse comics. We're gonna take a risk on this comic by Patton Oswald, Jordan Bloom. We're doing this comic and they're the ones. Okay. Hopefully it sells. And then there's the secondary people who are the production studios for movies who are like, we're going to take the risk on the fact that Dark Horse took the risk on this comic and we're going to buy the rights. [00:06:21] Speaker B: I guess the timing of it, if you could time it right, that the release of the book, the release of the movie. You know, you're walking into a bookstore, you're like, oh wait, I've seen this image already before on a movie trailer. And then you're like looking at the book, you're reading the back. Geez, maybe I do want to see the movie. I guess it makes sense. But I feel like it always was books and then movies. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:43] Speaker B: But sometimes that gives your book that secondary push, right? Like, oh man, now I do really want to read this because like for. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Novel wise with Colin Kornfield, they were able to release the movie. Yeah, the new movie, the movie variant of the book. And so I've always been against this kind of thing, but. And then I realized how much more it probably sells their book because people see the poster and they put the two and two together. Whereas the original cover obviously doesn't have the same cover of this, but it's. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Also the original cover to me lends a lot to like yes. Your Stephen King vibes, your old school 80s horror. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Which I mean you don't see Friendo like so Friendo's face, full mask. You don't. So it's a book. Right. So the original thing before the. You never see the full face you see in the cornfield is the. Is the field in Clown in the Cornfield two Friendo lives. It's a close up version of his face on the COVID of the cracked thing, which is part of the story. But like you don't see Friendo as a whole. Like what beep and all that stuff is. And there were three. He's hung on a cross which is. It's called Church of Friendo. So there's a reason behind that. And he's far away so you don't actually get to see up close. Like I've wanted a Clown in the Cornfield tattoo for four years now and I've never really been like, this is what Friendo I could have drawn my own version of what explanation of you with the pork by hat and all that. Stuff on it. It wasn't until the movie came out where you actually get to see more of the interpretation of the Friendo stuff. But you get this visualization in movies of things that you have in your head, which is really cool. But I think it's cheaper probably for studios. You know, when they talked to Adam Caesar in 2020 about adapting it into a film, the rights to buy it before it's a success, they don't know and damn, it's a risk. Okay, well, whatever X dollars are going to spend on it if the book fails, cool. We'll write it off on taxes and we'll move on. Right. But if it's a success now, they're not competing with someone else, you know. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah. There's no other prior property of stuff. [00:08:43] Speaker A: If you go back to my Minor Threats comparison, it's like Minor Threats took off. Now there's multiple different, you know, storylines. There's multiple different things like that. They would have gotten the Netflix probably paid a ton of money to do the adaptation of Minor Threats. Whereas if they would have adapted it Priory Prior, one person could have been like. So it's pretty cool as you see it more and more. I mean, the recount Jonathan Hedrick's book was purchased for adaption prior to the release of the comic book. Same thing. So there's these things and sometimes it takes a lot longer. J Bon and Sing has been on this podcast talking about how his the Killers game, which just recently came out with Dave Batista 30 years ago, was adaptation was purchased for an adaptation 30 years ago. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Well, how long is like something's killing the children been supposedly owned by Netflix and they were going to do something and like still haven't seen anything. There's been no, like casting news or anything still. That I don't think. [00:09:40] Speaker A: No, I think some of it is. Is the size of the studio who purchases the rights to. So let's. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Let's look. [00:09:44] Speaker A: You know, if we look back on this RJ L E I think it is films. [00:09:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Purchased the adaptation of this thing and the movie was made for a million dollars. Okay. [00:09:52] Speaker B: So this is a $1 million budget in today's world. That's crazy. It is. [00:09:57] Speaker A: It's. It's in the terrifying range. It's in that lower range right now. [00:10:01] Speaker B: I am so impressed with the quality of this movie with such a low budget. I would have thought it was a higher budget. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Well, terrifier was sub. Sub 1 million. And it looks like sub 1 million just because of the way the movie is designed to Be that way. Yeah, yeah. [00:10:13] Speaker B: It's supposed to be sort of, but. [00:10:15] Speaker A: This is like a, you know, a young adult, teen horror slasher type stuff that you think has this more polished look to it. And it does have a polished look to it. And maybe there's some things that maybe it's like. It's such a little number of sets. You have your downtown set, you have your field, you know, your corn, your barn in the fields. There's not a lot of sets there. The. The actual number of actor. Actors, like main actors, is a small people. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Everyone's from Canada in this movie because they filmed it in Canada. So all the stars are also from Canada. And so Will Sasso and the guy who plays Arthur, like the two bigger names in this. [00:10:50] Speaker B: In this, I would say there was only. There was only one person I specifically recognized and that was the sheriff. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's Will Sassen. He. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Okay. He was on Sheldon. Young Sheldon. Yep, yep. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been. [00:11:01] Speaker B: That's where Liz and I were trying to discuss who he was. And I was like, I feel like he was in a comedy. I'm like, oh, I know exactly what it was. [00:11:07] Speaker A: And Eli Craig, the director and co write. Co screenwriter are both. He's a popular person because of Tucker. Tucker and Dale versus Evil. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Which has been a popular movie. But like that's like what he's known for. Rjl, R L, J A E or something like that films has done Smile. They're the ones responsible for Maze Runner and Twilight and those movies. So they've made some big movies. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker A: But this movie is one of those ones. We can make it for a little bit of money. We can do it all in one location. We can get it out there easily. It's not going to cost us a lot of money. And so that probably moves it faster, in my opinion. [00:11:43] Speaker B: I saw it's already made a profit. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Doubled its investment. [00:11:48] Speaker A: So get it out there right away. I mean, it was filmed in 2020, end of 2023. And now it's in theaters, you know, the beginning of 25 or mid 25. It was a quick turnaround. And so maybe that's another reason why a film goes from. From adaptation purchasing to the actual release of it. If the film budget is super low, then it's a lot easier to make when you're trying to get money to make a $400 million film. [00:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Get it out. [00:12:14] Speaker A: And it might take a lot longer. [00:12:16] Speaker B: Things and this and that. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah, well, because I imagine something is not going to be a Cheap show to me. I mean show each episode might be a million dollars, which then you know, I mean so that, that could be a problem there. So maybe that's why it's taken so long. Is that right aspect of it too? [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. This isn't have to have. This can all be practical effects. It really didn't need any CGI or very little if there was any. Yeah, I was impressed. I thought so I looked up and read up about it this morning or last night and I would have expected this to be more of a 2 to 3 million dollar budget just because the, the production quality was there. It didn't look like a. Like a cheap movie. It was very, very well done. So I was really impressed with that. [00:12:59] Speaker A: It's. Yeah, it's made as of today or as of last night. The last reported earnings is 6.6 million. So you're talking, I mean obviously that $1 million, the budget to make the movie. A lot of times there's a marketing. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Marketing rights, all that stuff. [00:13:13] Speaker A: It's Hollywood market, Hollywood accounting. But it's. So if you think about it, even if it was another million dollars put into marketing, you're still at a $4.6 million profit. And so. And this is not the second weekend. It didn't even drop, I don't think. I think it dropped maybe a little bit. You know, like the sophomore weekend. I think the first weekend and second weekend were roughly around three point something million dollars. So you're talking like, you know, like if you can keep holding strong. Yeah, I mean I would think it makes at least. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Hopefully there's people out there discussing it and getting more people to go in. In fact I felt like I put it on my social media. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Like I think there's like three people already. Four people already. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. Like I want to support. So I had filed the request with our local cinema to be like hey can you get this movie? So then I would love to see it be a success. I would hate for it to flopped on them. Yeah. And the fact that like I don't think that many people maybe know about this movie and it's excellent. Like go. If you're a horror fan, you gotta go see it. [00:14:09] Speaker A: So it's what's funny Just, just in comparison. Tucker and Dale vs Evil, which is Eli Craig's last movie. He did. Who he wrote, directed and co wrote with Morgan Jurgensen, which came out, I want to say early 2010. Yeah, 2010 was made for $5 million. Okay. It only made $5.5 million. So like already to Eli is like, well, maybe if I have a smaller budget and I can make more money on this thing, you could do it. It's obviously you can do it. Yeah. And so. And then we'll see it. I mean, if they, if they do end up making a sequel, which obviously just based on finances alone is probably worth it at this point. They just. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Make a couple million dollars just like the book. [00:14:51] Speaker B: The movie ended with that open ending option that you could carry on with it. [00:14:56] Speaker A: So maybe they do make a second one just for it. But maybe that second one is a $2 million film, you know, I mean like where they can add in a couple. They obviously have to add in some people because the things change. There's new characters, so on and so forth. There's a different location in the second book and so maybe that adds to it. But like I can see it just getting another million dollars but still making five, six million dollars on it. We worth it to them. You know, sometimes it's a billion dollar movie. [00:15:19] Speaker B: I got like a bunch of small. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Five million dollar movies. You can make a bunch of money too. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Right. I got wrapped up in the world and when I got home, I almost started Clown Cornfield too, because I have it. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:28] Speaker B: I haven't started yet, but I'm like a quarter of the way through another book. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:32] Speaker B: And I wanted to like. I'm like, I don't want to start another book until I finish this last one. But at the same time I was like itching to continue the world of the Clown of the Cornfield. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And so. And here's the deal. The rumor of this is. And just so anybody. Obviously we're going to spoil some things on here. Obviously. Because this is a review I was. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Debating that is just a spoiler. [00:15:50] Speaker A: I don't know. I think, I think we're two weeks into it and I think you've decided you can choose or whether or not to do this. This is not like you have to listen to this or review this, which is like a review. And when you're reading a review on a written review, I feel like, I feel like that's a little bit different. I usually do a little bit more, you know, broader strokes, but I think this, I think we can just say right now that there's a possibility. Let's try not to. But if there's a possibility that things. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Will get well, you should have, you should have seen the movie and you should have read the book by now. How's that? [00:16:19] Speaker A: Shame on you According to the Internet a couple places one on the numbers.com which is where I found the financial parts about this to verify the Wikipedia side of Things says that June 10th is the video release. So which means that the streaming release is going to be June 10th. So we're actually not that far away. We're only a few weeks because it's a low budget film. Yeah, I think that's what it happens that way. And shutters behind this. So shutters going to want their money behind it. So this is where they get their money by putting it on shutters and so on and so forth. So shutter will probably have that on June 10th. Don't know when the physical media is coming out. I already pre ordered my Blu Ray Amazon but so that that's also gonna be right there. So it's gonna be right around the corner. So if you can't get an opportunity to go see the theaters it's not gonna be that long before you can watch at your house. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Widely located either. Like it wasn't in tons and tons of theaters. [00:17:12] Speaker A: The you can watch it again on Demand or on Shutter before reading number two again. So you could watch it again. [00:17:19] Speaker B: There we go. [00:17:19] Speaker A: There you go. So there's that but. But no it's. It's kind of the Cornfields. It's a. It's a young adult book but it's such to the end of the. The. Yeah like the borderline of where you know one more scene or one more directional change in the story could pushed it over that it has to be a full on adult. [00:17:39] Speaker B: I think. I think Liz said that she saw in the back was recommended for like 16 plus. Yeah. I mean to say it's is extremely loose. My oldest daughter is very advanced in reading but I would not give her this book. I think I'm all set. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:54] Speaker B: I don't need to deal with the nightmares or the like fears. If there's a clown out the door. [00:17:59] Speaker A: That'S a big thing. And that book club I went to someone was like ah clowns and clowns and cornfields are both are no nos for me. [00:18:05] Speaker B: Cornfields come together. [00:18:07] Speaker A: It's so claustrophobic because you don't know how the hell you're going to get out of a cornfield because it just goes on and on and on in those big places like in the Midwest. I mean obviously. I mean it's like at some point you're going to hit some woods in Maine. It's fields are big but like just keep walking. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Oh, new one there we go clown. [00:18:21] Speaker A: In the woods, but they're the next in the Midwest. They do go for miles and so you could end up, you know, whatever. And the clowns. And I said, what the thing about this is, is that this. The reason why I kind of latched onto this early in this series. It's now has three books out. The fourth one's being written right now is the clowns are not your it clowns. It's not your. Your, you know, the clowns that you see that their terrifier clowns. Etc. It's not these clowns. Yes. It's. It's. [00:18:52] Speaker B: It's image. It's a terrifying image. And it's just. It's just a person in the suit. But. And as the story progresses, you find out the danger of it too of like there's so many people that are. [00:19:06] Speaker A: It did remind me slightly behind the message killer clowns from outer space moments there where I was like, oh, look at all the clowns all over your place. But yeah, it's the mask themselves. And I don't think that's giving away much of what this is. But this, this idea that it's not a. If you think about clown in a cornfield, it's more like clowns in a cornfield, if you think about it. Because it is a group of clowns that's really, you know, there is mastermind behind it. There's obviously, you know, a hierarchy of these things, but it's a number of people wearing the clown masks. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:37] Speaker A: And the mentality, which I like to it because it changes that clown scariness. I mean it is. It's Pennywise, you know, terrifier. You know, it's Art the clown. You know, this is more like clowns from killer clowns from outer space. Except they're actual physical like clown beings. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Not crazy, but it's a different way. It's. It's a group. It's a group horror film. Like, you know, your idea that you don't know who's behind the mask. Kind of like Scream, like you mentioned. Like, it's, it's. [00:20:03] Speaker B: It's. [00:20:04] Speaker A: You know, Ghostface isn't attached to the face. You pull it off in some sort of like creepy monster. It's someone you don't know. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: It's someone close to you potentially. [00:20:12] Speaker B: I actually thought of that, that this could be the next like generation of Scream. Could be clown the cornfield. This could be the thing that you start seeing teenagers wearing clown the cornfield costumes. You know, the friendo costumes out trick or treating or whatever. It definitely has that vibe, which I thought was great in the movie. And I love the book. And I also. I appreciate. Because I always think so. I have a hard time with horror movies being just too cheesy for me. The whole, you know, undying Jason, Freddy, whatever, all that stuff. [00:20:43] Speaker A: I. Jason one, Freddy one, you know, or Halloween one. All of those ones where it's like, okay, it's a cre. It's some sort of killer. That's the unknown and the scariness about it. But by the time you get to Halloween 17 and it's like they go to space. It's like, okay, you've lost me on that. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I can't. I can't keep doing this. So that's why I've always had like a cheese cheesiness factor problem. And then this, this doesn't have that, which I appreciate. He has that whole thriller side, the whodunit side, and the fact that like, right off the bat, they. They kill one of these people and then they're like, oh God, this isn't like one person doing this. And you start getting. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Well, I think there's a multiple danger. So there are some deviations, which obviously I won't get into the nitty gritty details. We're just gonna try to make this less spoiler ish. There are some details that are from the book that are left out of the movie. [00:21:33] Speaker B: A fair amount, I thought. A fair amount. [00:21:34] Speaker A: But there's also some things that are in the book that they skim over slightly. I mean, the opening part of the book, and this is not a spoiler at all really, because this is part of the. Is when Cole, his sister dies. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I was caught off guard when the movie started without that. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And then touch on it later on. Cole talks about it being a reasoning why certain things are certain ways is because of the death of his sister. [00:22:00] Speaker B: But it was so skimmed over. I. I regret that part of the movie. I think that should have had a bit of a deeper thing. I also feel like, and this isn't a common horror movie thing, but I feel like this movie could have been a little longer. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:12] Speaker B: I think an hour 45 to 2 hour run time, you could have dragged out some more of the suspense. You could have gotten that backstory piece in with Cole's sister a little bit more. Even if they changed up what happened, it couldn't. You know, she didn't have to die the way she did in the book if it was easier that they made bad decisions and she tried to drunk drive or do whatever. [00:22:34] Speaker A: And then you have Cole and Quinn sitting on a couch at a party talking about this. This. That her sister died. That could also been an opportunity to. To. To break the storyline in a way that's just to give you a break from the current storyline and then a flashback. So even if you didn't tell it at the beginning, even if you went towards the end, again, if the budget was a little higher, you know, whatever. If there's a little bit more of a runtime, and you gave us five minute quick, you know, because that's a. It's a long. It's not long, but it's a good portion of the first part of the book that you're reading that it's about this. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah. The whole first, like, chapter of the book is that. [00:23:08] Speaker A: So if you just had that flashed it back and showed the swimming and all that stuff and doing all that stuff, that might have been a cool way to, like, break. [00:23:15] Speaker B: I think that also would have set up the tension among the kids more. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Which, of course, he didn't really have the tension among the kids in the book anyway. In the movie anyway. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:22] Speaker B: And I appreciate the tension with the kids in the book. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:25] Speaker B: That you don't get the friendship slash, that background thing because of them all going through this experience with her dying. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:33] Speaker B: So I. I regret that not being the movie. And I do Wonder Lizards to something about maybe she thought the run time was shorter because of the budget. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker B: Costed them more. [00:23:43] Speaker A: You have to add in an additional casted person because you have to cast a sister now. You have an additional set, you have additional timing of filming and all that stuff. So. Yeah, it's one of those things that they obviously sat down in a writer's room and said, how can we still put this as part of the story but not have to show it? And they thought the best part was, you know, saying that this would happen, but that they just skim over it. So now you know his sister's dead. But otherwise, because it does play a part in the story later on. And you have to know, like, not having his sister die changes the story completely, because it doesn't. There's a. There's a reason why later on is a reason why, you know that it's really Cole's fault and so on and so forth. Like, not really, but, like, he's blamed for the whole thing. [00:24:26] Speaker B: He's blamed for the whole thing. And then the. The I think, bit of the tragic story of Cole is that he Also blames himself for it. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Yep. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Yep. And in the book I think you get more of that, that. That self destructive nature. So that that keeps that tension throughout the whole thing. And you get that sort of loss in the movie. Yeah. He obviously drinks and like does things he shouldn't be doing. But he doesn't seem to have as much of a self destructive. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Yes. [00:24:51] Speaker B: He doesn't have that shadow over him that he does in the book. [00:24:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:56] Speaker B: And the kids as a whole don't seem as much like. I don't know is the kids aren't necessarily trouble causing in the book. But they certainly are still because there's nothing to do there. This and that. You get that boredom of being in the Midwest and living in a small town and the feeling between the town really having some disgruntled feelings about these kids. And I feel like it's there they have the big scene with the big parade. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Yep. [00:25:30] Speaker B: In that kind of going this getting a little screwed up and this and that. And then some of the stuff of them filming their. Their movies. [00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:36] Speaker B: So the whole plot lines there. But I feel like it just didn't get as much depth and feeling as it did in the book series. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Which is. Which is common. You know, obviously in movies have to lose something. And it's the same thing. Actually one of the things that was brought up in this horror book club last week about. Has anybody read a novelization of a. Of a movie and there's a different. There's two different versions of that. One is a straight up novelization of a movie. So say this was a movie first and then Adam wrote the novelization of it. You expand on things. Because a novelization of an hour and a half horror film is like a novella. It's like 90 pages. To make it a 300 page book, you have to expand on some things. You have to add in more descriptive words. You have to add in all this stuff. So obviously there's a lot of things that go on in the book that has to be cut in order to make it an hour and a half film. That it's more absolutely well. [00:26:21] Speaker B: And there's so much inner dialogue anytime you're in a book first that to try to get that inner dialogue to a movie doesn't always work out. Either there isn't time, there's a space or there isn't a good way to do it. [00:26:32] Speaker A: And so I'm a huge fan of. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Them and I think as far as it goes, I can recommend both of these things. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:37] Speaker B: Independently. [00:26:38] Speaker A: And independently you don't have to read the book to get the story. And I think you don't like horror. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Movies, but you want to read it. Read the book. It's fantastic. You know, if you're a horror movie buff and you're not much of a reader, go watch the movie. I think you'll still enjoy it. [00:26:51] Speaker A: So I will say, being a fan of the book for so many years now and reading and being a fan of the other two and then getting to know Adam a little bit, stuff like that, it obviously skews my perspective on everything too. It's obviously, I fall in more into the. I'm going to like this movie no matter what, which I hope you know. The movie came on and I was like, I'm probably going to like this movie. There's the credits weren't even rolling, and nothing was, like, going out. There's like, the coming attractions were playing, basically. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna like this movie. And that's mainly because I like the book. So if it stays anywhere close to the book, I'm gonna like it. The book I like so much. And so. And it did. And the biggest one to me was, if you've read the book, the ending is very fitting and very close to what you see on the book, where it sets it up, you know. You know, spoiler alert to everybody. She goes to college next. And so there's that. That's the net. I mean, that's not a back book jacket of the actual sequel. The thing. So it's like, wait, it's storyline. It's. Yeah, it's a storyline of that thing. And so it's. That, to me, set it up. Okay, cool. Because I talked to Adam prior to seeing the movie, and so when I talked to him, I was like, oh, yeah, I didn't know. It's gonna be great. And then I'm like, see, you know, they're gonna like it for number one two. I know you just came out, but, like, what do you think? And he's like, obviously, it's all about sales and all this stuff. And I'm thinking, like, I didn't even seen it yet to know that they set it up to be possibly there's a sequel. Because, like, there's no reason not to at that point. [00:28:19] Speaker B: Yeah, why wouldn't you? So he was in the movie where he was. [00:28:24] Speaker A: So when Arthur. [00:28:26] Speaker B: So Arthur Flip on Instagram. So I knew he was there somewhere. So I kept watching, trying to find him. [00:28:31] Speaker A: For anybody who doesn't know Arthur Hill, is the mayor of. Of Kettle Springs, which is this town in the Midwest. His family has owned a bay penny corn syrup, which is. They. They kind of like invented the corn syrup in that area. So that's like how the town made their money for years and years and years. [00:28:47] Speaker B: Literally the only thing that the town has on the map. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Yes. And so I think it's familiar. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Dukes. We have parts like that in Maine. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:54] Speaker B: You know, and it's a figure. [00:28:55] Speaker A: There's a figure to it. It's like the Paul Bunny, the bangor is the baby friend of the clown is like the figure of the. Of the town. Everything has to do with that. And so like a bang or a. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Works there, or you're. Your parents worked there, or you had some connection somewhere to this, to Bay Pen and. And. [00:29:14] Speaker A: And the Beipen corn syrup, obviously, with other places having it and so on and so forth. Obviously, sales have dropped anyway, but then the. The actual factory burns, letting people out of jobs and all that stuff. So there's a. There's a. There's a turmoil in the whole town in. In a. In a bitterness. Yes. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:34] Speaker A: So, but Arthur Hill is the mayor, who is Cole's dad, which again, this is not spoiler or anything. It's just part of the background. The movie or the book? Arthur Hill is Cole's dad, and Arthur Hill is giving a mayoral speech at the parade. So the hundredth Founders Day parade at the thing. And he's giving the speech on the. Behind him is a bunch of people in like a. Stands, like a. Like a. Yep. Adam Caesar, the. The writer of the novel, is sitting in the middle. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Okay. So he's supposed to be like. Sort of like one of the council members. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just back there sitting there hanging out. [00:30:08] Speaker B: I kept watching for him. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:10] Speaker A: He's in the movie, which is awesome, because to me, again, that's another nod to Stephen King. You know, maybe the next movie. It's where. Where he go. You know, the next movie they make, one of the kids goes into a convenience store and Adam says, oh, yeah, I go down the street and it's him working the convenience store register. Like, that's the kind of stuff that Stephen King originally was one of those original people to do that kind of stuff. And then obviously had Stanley later on, the Marvel stuff and so on and so forth. But he was invited. So that's another thing, if you listen to the episode people, is that he was actually invited by Temple Hill Entertainment and the people who created the movie to come to set in Canada and actually be there, which is a different thing that it's likely not the same for like Maze Runner. When Maze Runner was being made, it's not like they just called up the creator of Maze Runner novels and say, hey, come hang out on the set. Because it's such a low budget film and a small film and more a family. They were like, oh, come out. Help you. She was out there for a day or two. They put him in the movie, as we were just saying, and so on and so forth, which was really kind of a cool, you know, little thing to do and have it so that maybe again in movie two, if they ever make it, he'll be actually like a speaking role or something like that. But I think also it changes your pay and like, you have to be part of a union sometimes and all that stuff. So that's the reason why there's a. There's maybe he could just say hi and then, you know, so on and so forth. He's not credited in the movie because of that and so on and so forth. So I think there's a little bit of, you know, why that happens. But yeah, he was in the movie, which was really cool. He was really excited about that. They asked him, you know, after writing the script, hey, can we do this? Do you think about this? What do you think about that? So a lot of that doesn't happen. And so he was very happy that he got to work with this company because they were very, very good about that. [00:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Making the movie, I will say. Good. [00:31:51] Speaker B: I think one thing I would have done. So one of the things I liked in the book series or in the book was the introduction of this other mayor and the disagreement between him and the sheriff and more. More of the background feeling behind the adults live there. And I think with a longer movie, you could add a little bit more of that stuff. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:14] Speaker B: And that I think also helped in the book to lend more mystery to it. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Yes, well, that's. And that's one thing. So I. [00:32:19] Speaker B: We didn't get. We didn't get as much mystery. [00:32:22] Speaker A: No, no. [00:32:22] Speaker B: In the movie. [00:32:23] Speaker A: So that's. That's one thing I would say is I don't want to spoil this. Obviously, if we could try not to spoil this. We'll try not to. Is so. So Taylor hadn't read the book. I've been trying for years to get Taylor to read this book, but she had read the book, but she saw the movie. And so when she saw the movie, she's like, that's who it is. And I was like, see, I don't think you would have done that by reading the book. When you read the book, you go, it's not until the reveal happens. You're like, oh, shit, that's too. You know, I. And in the movie, I feel like even myself as a person who knows, it was like, wait a second, they just basically told you who this was? Because I feel like they had to truncate it so much to make the hour and a half, 90 minute run time, to get that budget time. So you had to kind of be like, hey, just in case you missed the background stuff that's going on in this town. Yeah, let's make this comment. And there's one line that we can talk about after we stop recording. There's that one line by a specific character who goes. And you're just like, damn it, why don't you just let us figure it out on our own? And so, yes, there is that. I think there's more mystery. [00:33:26] Speaker B: The book had a lot more mystery, a lot more suspense. The suspense was much better drawn out. And there's a lot more who done it style in the book because you get some previous things there with the clown popping up in the background. You had that a little bit in the movie with the one scene with it they're filming and they're like, wait, there's another Friendo in the background. Because the kids are using Friendo in their own movies, which was great. In a great scene and a great, like, holy. But in the book side, you get a lot more of the. Well, it can't be this person being Friendo, because we saw Friendo. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:00] Speaker B: In the background of whatever this person was doing. [00:34:02] Speaker A: Which is a scream thing. Which is a whole scream. Yeah, the whole idea, like, obviously it can't be Ghostface. Can't be so and so, because they're right here. And that's really not until screams. [00:34:09] Speaker B: You saw them here and then again you saw them over there. So you can't be these people. Yeah. [00:34:13] Speaker A: And that really falls into effect more in screams two through eight. You know, I mean, because. Because of the fact that it's in Scream 1, you really don't know what's going on. But once you get to the reveal and scream of who Ghostface is, it's the second movie when Ghostface returns, you're like, wait a second, Ghostface is dead. And then. And so on and so forth. That's where the whole thing. And Ghostface, I mean, let's be honest, Scream is a slight Parody to the horror genre as a whole. So, like there is that too. Just I don't want people like, this is not the same in that sense. Like, this is a comedy in a sense too. There is comedy in this movie and there is light hearted, funny moments to this. That's. I think that's the whole point. [00:34:49] Speaker B: A lot of the younger generation and being a little bit inept at things. [00:34:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So. But they're. Yeah. So it is one of those things that. Yeah. There was more of that in the book of a mystery behind it. A more gradual build up to what's going on and so on and so forth. But there's multiple fears in this movie. It's the fear of Quinn and her father, Dr. Maybrook, coming to a new town, having to start a new place immediately after she gets there. The teacher gives her shit for stuff. So it's like you're already in a bad note there. You're trying to meet new friends. The dad is the doctor. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Mayor dad is not happy with the friends you're making. [00:35:26] Speaker A: And trying to start over with a new doctor, a new practice. Because the other doctor. Doctor's missing. Which they don't touch on that, by the way. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:35] Speaker A: He was just gone. Which is. Which part of me adds to the story a lot. If you just. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. Liz has said that was a part she really missed. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Was not having that. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:48] Speaker B: It would have been good. I thought it would have been good to have it revealed that the doctor was still there somewhere. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:56] Speaker B: As a friend though. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Maybe. Yeah. [00:35:58] Speaker B: But they're like, holy, we live in your house. Like, you know, that could have been something. [00:36:03] Speaker A: Oh, there's a whole scene of them in the book about when they first get to the house and they go around the house and they see the house and there's different things and the smell and that was everything there. [00:36:13] Speaker B: And it was like, weird. Why is. Why is it. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Why they just abandoned the house basically? [00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Everything as it was practically like dinner on the table. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Feeling. [00:36:21] Speaker A: And so they had a lot of that in the. In the book, which was not really there. Presentation in the thing. The relationship between Rust and Quinn was bigger in. In the book. There's a lot more like, you know, that's one of the things that was weird when I was reading. [00:36:35] Speaker B: There's a lot more like in the book of trying to decide is she friends with Rust or not or is she friends with Cole. And then they're. The weird tension that you get because of them being two different style of Kids. Yeah, the whole like town being run buddies, cool kids. And then Ross being more of the redneck in that. [00:36:55] Speaker A: And that's what you see a lot of those. The teen style movies are the coming of age movies where it's like the main person who could 100% be in the in crowd, the people is best friends with the person that's on the outlying crowd outside. And so. And that's the Rust of it all is the outside person, the hick. The person is not hip and, you know, doesn't go to the parties as much and all that stuff. They are in the book and in the movie she meets him first. It's the first person she meets that's his. Her age in Kettle Springs. And so immediately there's obviously that connection between the two of them. Because you talk to me. You introduced me to this, that and the other thing. [00:37:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:34] Speaker A: And there's like the walk to school and that was it basically. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that was about it. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And so it wasn't like when they. [00:37:41] Speaker B: It was a nice explanation in the book side that Rust is at this party to kind of keep an eye on her. [00:37:47] Speaker A: Yep. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Because he feels like she's gonna get into trouble with these other kids that he. He doesn't necessarily. He doesn't really approve of them and what they do. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, and I will say yes. [00:37:58] Speaker B: That they're into. [00:38:00] Speaker A: And this is typical tropes in these kind of movies too, is like the two people romantic part of this whole thing is a little. Little different than. Than it was in the book too. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Poor Quinn. Do think she's romantically interested in both of them? [00:38:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:38:12] Speaker B: You know, is she more interested in the. The woodsy, rough guy or is she more interested in the. [00:38:17] Speaker A: Which is funny because she's from Philadelphia. In both the book and the thing, she's from Philadelphia. So Philadelphia is not like they're hunters. They don't go hunting every weekend in Philadelphia. So like the idea that she'd even be like. [00:38:27] Speaker B: And that could be like an interesting appeal though. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker B: This is. This kid is so different from anything else she knew. Like to be Ross and be like, whoa, this is. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker B: You are the exact opposite of everything. I know. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that. But I mean, so there's a lot. Like I said. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Well, definitely closer probably to the city kid. He wishes he was a city kid. [00:38:46] Speaker A: Probably the overall scheme of things, the whole plot, that how actual. Like if you say watch the movie from the beginning to the ending, it's the exact story. Exactly. It's the close enough story. This Is not an adaptation where they had to change it from saying based on a novel by. It has to, you know, say based on the idea of the novel of the. Like. There's movies, you see where it's like, loosely based on the novel, which means that the name. And maybe the main character the same name, and that's it. [00:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I've definitely had. I've definitely had things like that where I've watched a movie and then I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go read this book. And I started reading the book. I'm like, what the hell is going on? [00:39:21] Speaker A: There's definitely a couple Stephen King novels that are like that. I want to say, what did I just see recently that was like that. It was a recent Stephen King book novel that was like. It said. Read the Wikipedia page. It's loosely based on. And I'm like, oh, okay. It's. It's a Marvel adaptation of a thing. It's like, oh, based on. On super or Iron Man. And really, it's based on the character by Iron man, but has nothing to do with the actual comic books. This is not like this. This is definitely one of those things. [00:39:45] Speaker B: If you really. Yes. Yeah. You have. You have some changes and some things here and there, but falls very closely. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Very closely, which is great. And I will say Katie Douglas, the. The person who plays Quinn Maybrook in this book, in this movie. I mean, honestly, to me, I didn't know what. Obviously in my head, you don't. You don't immediately. [00:40:02] Speaker B: She's not what I picture Quinn as, but she was very good. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yes. And that's what I said. Like, she was one of those ones. She reminded me a lot of. Have you watched Shrin Call? The daughter on Shrinking? She reminded me a lot of the same mannerisms and things like that. I think the daughter on shrinking is a little bit older in real life, I think. And these and Adam Pepin calling them kids because they're kids in the movie, but they're all, like, in their mid-20s. It's not like they're actual kids. These most. These people are actually older. But they were done well, and I think the casting was done well. I did think that when I was looking at this movie before watching it and seeing the order of cast and seeing, like, it also stars so and so as Rust, I was like, that's weird, because in the book, it's like, you know, your main characters from beginning to end is. Is. Is Quinn, Cole and Rust. Like, that's the main people who are like, there's Obviously the other characters that are there too to help a lot. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah, the other, the other kids and. But like those people, there were more kids and more relationships built in the book than you get here. You know, you see Ginger in the movie for like an eighth of a second. Versus in the book it was. She was a much bigger role. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:08] Speaker B: Is. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Pretty close to the same character. But Janet in the book I think is. I don't know. There's a lot more debates on what she's about, which side she's on. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:21] Speaker B: All this and that. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Sheriff Dunn is a deeper character in the comment or in the book than it is. And then, you know, it's. It's political side of things is more shown in the book than it is in the movie. I mean, even in the book he actually says it goes as far as saying, you know, make kettle screens great again. Which obviously is a comparison to what side of the aisle this person is politically. And so there's, you know, they kind of skimmed over that and that's possibly to get everybody to watch this movie. It's possibly they just didn't need to go down that route. [00:41:51] Speaker B: That side out. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Yeah. But there is that, you know, the Aster table. [00:41:54] Speaker B: But I could, I could see leaving that side out. Although I thought it was a funny nod in the book of like. Yeah, exactly what this guy is kind of. [00:42:02] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:42:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And I thought that was a good tension in the book is the difference between him and the current mayor and all that stuff that you had in the book too. And I think somebody is hard because I recognized the actor from being in a comedy and he has sort of a light heartedness about him. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:19] Speaker B: And in the, in the book I feel like he's much gruffer. [00:42:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:25] Speaker B: I picture in the, in the book I picture him looking more like a thick Sergeant Slaughter from the G.I. joe cartoon with this big mustache. And it's just like overpowering guy with always wearing sunglasses. Like at night he's wearing mirror sunglasses. Probably like he never takes them off, you know, versus in the movie. He's a little, I think because of who the actor was. Seems light hearted. He seems a little more jovial. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Well, he also like the slobby donut eating cop too. It's not the fit cop version of it where you see like that. [00:42:55] Speaker B: More like where I feel like in the. I feel like in the book this guy was probably always sort of in shape. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:02] Speaker B: You know. Yeah, yeah. And this, he's definitely a little rounder. [00:43:05] Speaker A: But in the same sense, I See both sides of it. I think if you would have gone the route of the book, having them more have sheriff done be more like the book, I think you would have had to cast differently. And I think if you casted Will Sasso in his position, they kind of maybe was a mixture of the two. Will Sasso is going to play this character. So we have to change. Change somewhat of what is what his personality is kind of like he's still. But he's just not the same, you know. And that. And that's the thing is like, you know, it's one of the things you lose from adaptations is longer scenes. And so like, you know, there's a scene or officer or Sheriff Dunn arrests someone in the book, it's a lot longer of a scene. More interactions between the back of the cop car and so on and so forth. And there's more of a. There's less comedy in that part in the book. Whereas the movie I felt like it was kind of funny because he arrests that person, drives away everyone else is. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Like, what the hell? [00:43:58] Speaker A: Yeah. So there's that. There are the moments where like the comedy again was. That was the. This director and co screenwriter is a comedy horror writer and director. And so like there is these moments where it's like that's definitely this writer or this director's influence on this because Eli Craig has that ability. Like when the clowns are coming out of the field at the party and one gets. Someone gets shot with an arrow and they're like ahaha. So funny. And they go over there laughing and they're grabbing the severed head, and they grab the severed head like oh. And they throw it around like, oh, look at that. They made a casting of the thing and you're like. Then they realize that it's an actual human being. They're like, oh my God. But it was just like the comedy behind that was like, I don't know, maybe we would be like that at a party, Paul, you and I having a party and we'd see that. Maybe we would be like, there's no way in hell this is an actual killing. [00:44:45] Speaker B: You're so used to this horror side of it. Pranking one another constantly, you know, and trying to. Trying to scare each other. That is sort of like their friend group thing. [00:44:56] Speaker A: But yeah, adding that to it. But even us, I think even us at a party might actually be like, who's fucking with who's. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yeah, there's no way this is actually happening. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Because I always laugh about that, how someone immediately was like, oh, My God. A serial killer or doesn't do that. I'm always like, why wouldn't you immediately freak out if there was a serial killer coming to your house? Because I don't think any of us, if someone knocked on the door right now, would immediately go, there's a serial killer out there, Paul. [00:45:16] Speaker B: There's a serial killer at my door. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Like, you'd have to. Like, someone else would have. A number of things would have to happen before I'd be like, okay, you. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Have to have it, like, previously in the news maybe, or something. Yeah. You're not gonna immediately jump to that. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Even if they're standing there with a giant knife, you'd be like, hell you doing, man? [00:45:32] Speaker A: Are you cutting some trees down or something? Like, what's going on over here? You know, like, especially in Maine, if you have anywhere with a gun or a knife, you just immediately think. Unless you're, like, on First Street. You might think that it's, you know, different here in Bangor. But yeah. And, you know, I think the overall acting was good. There was obviously some hiccups here and there. I think the casting was done really well. I think Arthur Hill casting was done extremely well. I think he's kind of creepy. He's got, like, an authoritarian, like, authoritative, like, vibe to him, but he's also super creepy. It's Kevin Durand who plays Arthur Hill. And I think I said Katie Douglas has done pretty well. I do think I missed Dr. Maybrook had a little bit more influential parts in the book than he did in this. But also the influential parts that he had in the movie were different than the influential parts he had in the book. I mean, there's more. He plays more of an impact towards the end than he does in the book. There are the scenes that you see him in, but I just. I don't know. I also pictured him being like, he was trying to be cool in this movie, you know, at the very opening. And this is. Again, I don't really care about spoiling openings to a movie, but in the opening, they're in the car, they're on their way to Kettle Springs, and he's listening to 80s rap, and it's like, okay, that's a funny part. And like, okay, that is true. But in the same sense, I don't feel like in the book he was that character. I feel like he was a guy who lives in the current day, not in the. In history, like the 80s. [00:46:48] Speaker B: I thought the. I thought the father casting was good, though, of being a little bit of the Because I always kind of picture him a little bit of the bumbling. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker B: Not quite sure what to do. And of course, his life has just drastically changed. Now he's got to be responsible for this teenage girl and he doesn't have his wife doing that side of it. And as a girl dad, I totally could get that of like, holy crap. Now I gotta try to figure this out when I. Yeah. And I have no idea about this world of being a teenage girl. So trying to understand that and deal with it and I can. I thought the casting for him was good. I thought he did a great job and had that. Still had a bit of that, little bit of bumbling, little bit of like, whatever. But the good dad overall, trying getting her a vehicle, you know, wanted to teach her how to drive stick, all that stuff. [00:47:36] Speaker A: Well, that's another thing where I'm like, okay, I don't know, what was I reading? I was just. I'm reading a book called Survive the Night by Riley Sager. And in the book she goes for a drive. She. She's. She's a college student. She needs to get back home. And it's a ride share board. This is in the early 90s and there's a ride share board. And there's been a. Killings on the campus. So. So she's obviously timid and so on and so forth. Yeah, she gets in the car with this dude who's going to the same area she's going to, and so on and so forth. The movie is. The movie's the drive. And it's. It's about her friend was killed by a serial killer. And then she's thinking that this guy that she's got in a car with might be that serial killer. Love the idea behind it, so on and so forth. [00:48:10] Speaker B: But yeah, it sounds really good. [00:48:11] Speaker A: He drives an automatic. But I think maybe she drives a standard. But in the book, basically saying is your dad always should teach you drive a standard because you can drive anything. You can drive an automatic and you could drive a standard if you learn how to drive a standard. And so I was like, yeah, but I feel like the one thing about this book was like the second she didn't know how to drive a standard, I knew at some point in the future the movie was gonna play a part in this movie. I mean, like, that foreshadowing was almost too obvious. It was too much like, here's a standard vehicle, because guess what? She's gonna get into a car sometime later in the movie and she's not gonna be Able to drive it. And so to me, I'm like, ah, see that. That to me was. There's a couple of those. [00:48:46] Speaker B: There was, There was a few of those things. And Liz had said that too, because she enjoyed the book overall. And she goes, you know, well, that was kind of cheesy. This is kind of cheesy. I said, well, I think some of it is fun lending to your cheesy. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:48:59] Speaker B: It's a nod to cheesy horror movies. Yeah, right. So it was intentionally there. Not. I feel. I felt like it was intentionally there. It wasn't accidentally put in and being like, well, that's kind of hokey. I feel like that was almost homage to your hokey. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:14] Speaker B: 80S 90s slasher movie cheesiness. So I appreciated that side of those little weird little jokes that were. Were over the top, over in your face, you know, not knowing how to use a phone. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Yep. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Like they get the phone and it's a landline. Internet. [00:49:28] Speaker A: How do you do this? [00:49:29] Speaker B: Where are the buttons? How the hell does this thing work? [00:49:31] Speaker A: But to me. So I've always said things like X Files, Seinfeld, some of these shows that were from the early late 80s, early 90s, mid-90s, couldn't exist in their same format and same story plots. Like you take the actual episodes so much more than 25, because so much had to do with going to a Chinese food restaurant and trying to get that phone call from his girlfriend on a paying phone. Going to the movies and missing each other just barely because of the movies or having a call, having to use. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Everyone'S ticket to get back in. [00:50:00] Speaker A: All that stuff, I think changes because of the error it's in. And so in order to make it so they couldn't call anybody, the number one plot device you had to use is you're in the middle of the field. So there's no cell phone reception. Now they're at a house. Everywhere out there now they're at a house with a landline. I still can't call anybody. How do you do it without being like the phone severed or. They don't own a landline in the middle, let's be honest, in the Midwest, at a farm like that, they have a landline. I know you and I might not have them anymore or whatever, but like, there's. There's definitely one in that time period in the middle Midwest. And so in order to do that, they had to make it a rotary phone so that the person who was, you know, a millennial or gen Gen Z Or whatever the heck it's called now. Yeah. Can't do the. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:41] Speaker A: So that. That to me, I was like, okay, I understand. That was funny. Who's like, how the hell do you call on this thing? But also it was a great plot device. Like, we can't call the police. We can't call anybody because of the fact that, you know, so and so and so, you know, the comedy mixed with the actual plot device actually really, really worked in that moment. I just thought it wasn't too many of that. Like. I don't know if you agree. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Y2K wasn't overwhelming the movie. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Y2K from. From A24 is a great movie, especially for you and I, who I grew up as in that conscientious to the Y2K area was. But it was on purpose. The whole idea of the film was like, we're gonna shove so many 2000, late 90s, early 2000s references in your face that you're gonna go, this is over the top and stupid. But the whole point of the movie was that, like, the whole thing was like they opened the film with him burning a CD in like, you know, on AOL Instant messenger, having an away message and all that stuff. Like, all that stuff was like, it was supposed to be. [00:51:37] Speaker B: I forgot about your away message you had to send on there. [00:51:40] Speaker A: So I'm glad that in a movie like this. And the young generation is as a generational parts of things is important. You know, I mean, like, the different generations actually plays a part. [00:51:49] Speaker B: The part is the generation gaps. [00:51:50] Speaker A: And is. Is that they didn't shove that in your face either, though. Like, that was the only real reference. [00:51:55] Speaker B: To not knowing how to use the phone. [00:51:58] Speaker A: Those two things. Yeah, that. The. The generational gaps and things. Even though I think that more people nowadays younger generations are learning to drive standards than. I know new cars don't come that way. But I think a lot of people want to drive those fun vehicles that have that. And so there is a. I bet Nova Riley. My kids will start to learn stick for before. I would have learned stick potentially. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Right. I thought in the book there was a few more things too of the showing the older generation failing at their side of accepting the younger technology. This and that. And we didn't really have that in movie. [00:52:28] Speaker A: I don't think I would love it. So they make Clown of the cornfield 2. Friendo Lives is the name of the name of the book. Then Clown on the Cornfield three is the Church of Friendo. That's the third book. And Actually revealed prior, but said on the podcast episode. Episode is Lights, camera, Friendo is clowning the cornfield four. And so I'm just picturing now the movie adaptation is being made in that. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Right? [00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm picturing. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Did Scream do that? Was that one? [00:52:59] Speaker A: I don't think so. But there's a number of books recently that have done that version where horror film happens on films. Yes, they did. [00:53:06] Speaker B: They did. [00:53:06] Speaker A: It was Scream. It was a recent one. It was like scream 4 or 5 where they did the. They were filming the adaptation of documentary. [00:53:14] Speaker B: What had happened or whatever. Right, yeah. [00:53:17] Speaker A: So I'm waiting for that. But so they get to the fourth one and then they don't know what to do. I would love a story of behind the scenes on how the friendos behind the mask got to be the friendos behind the mask. Like in the movie or in this movie, you see who it is and you kind of, okay, I understand why they did this. Or I. It's one of those ones where it's like you did it wrong. But I understand where your mentality was like, this is not how you do things. But I'd love to see them getting together like more behind the scenes thing and have an entire film based on the other side of something or. Or prior these kids being born. [00:53:49] Speaker B: The other. The other side of the plot, the other tension amongst these adults. This and that, that. [00:53:56] Speaker A: And maybe it's a comic book because I know Adam has mentioned that he wants to sell side storylines and he'd love to do that in comic books form. Tell a storyline of a specific character or a specific story. [00:54:06] Speaker B: What goes on in this town. [00:54:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:08] Speaker B: With it. [00:54:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that would be a fun thing. I said that. He goes, I don't want to do the adaptation of Clown the Cornfield in comic book form. He goes, that lives in comic books now and tv. I don't need to do a third thing or a movie. But he goes, but there's other storylines that are not full length novels or full length movies that could be told in these five issue miniseries, you know, at a publisher that tells the story of how pre this movie and so on and so forth. [00:54:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I know a comic book store that would carry those if Adam. [00:54:38] Speaker A: Right, yeah. Well, I was just thinking that I want Adam to come up here to the main to Bangor, Maine area. They just announced that Eli Craig, the director and co writer of this movie, signed on with a person to do cons. And so I was like, oh, I got, you know where it's obviously not for our convention, but maybe our friends convention over at Queen City Expo. Maybe we can get the two of them to come up to a comic book event too and have them come too. Because, you know, he's got. They do a lot of horror stuff at this convention. So that would make sense. And maybe it's a couple years from now, maybe it's next year, maybe it's the year after that when the sequel comes out or something like that. But Clown on the cornfield four should come out October of 26. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Because they're about every two years where they've been coming out. So I was thinking maybe that's the time to come out. [00:55:22] Speaker B: I really should finish the book I'm reading. But I'm probably going to start Clown Forkville too. Because I, like, I am. I'm stuck in this world now. I'm like obsessed with what I will say. [00:55:30] Speaker A: And this is not a spoiler for anybody else. It does take place primarily at the beginning in a different location with a smaller number of the people that you expect to read it with. And so to me, that took a second for me to go, okay, but I still like the storyline. I still. It's an excellent story. To me. Number one will always be the number one because it's the first time I was introduced to it. But 2 and 3 have stand on their own and are so good too. But for their. But. But Adam does a good job without being like, we're going back to Hatfield with. With Michael Myers. It's like Michael Myers is always based in that same area or Jason is always based in that same area until he goes to space in Manhattan. But there's. There's certain places where you're like, okay, we got to go to the specific area to tell the story. You know, sleep away camp. Is that sleepaway camp? So he has. Obviously he's trying to. He wants to tell stories in the same world, but he's got to mix it up. So there's. So number two is based. She goes to college. Number three is based, you know, differently placed. And number four, I'm guessing. I would guess it's based in Hollywood because if it's lights, camera, Friendo. [00:56:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:32] Speaker A: Either that or it's back in kettles because they're filming on set. [00:56:35] Speaker B: But I feel like that's. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but. And I would love to see that was it. I would love number five, honestly. Friendo Goes to Space. That's what I would like to do. [00:56:43] Speaker B: Just for the cheesy hokey. [00:56:45] Speaker A: No, I wanted to be like. And I wanted to. How about Friend of the Bay Pen? They put the syrup, corn syrup on corn syrup factory gets started back up again. It's reviving the town. And they put the corn syrup on a spaceship as some sort of space thing and gets sent to space. And what. In zero gravity and in the spatial things, it becomes its own entity of itself and turns into some sort of like killer clown in space. Or they bring back something and it takes over the town from Spider. [00:57:16] Speaker B: You should kill a clown too. [00:57:20] Speaker A: By it. So I mean overall for a million dollar movie. Okay. A million dollar movie. Again, we've talked about this in the past with our cheesy, cheesy movies. We talked about have made money for more than a million dollars. This movie is fantastic looking the kills. And we didn't touch on the kills really. Paula. We want to wind this episode up. But the kills are, are fun. Like for a horror movie. They're fun. They're practical effect wise. Like when people's heads smashed or heads cut off or arrows going through people's heads. I mean, you open up right at the beginning. I mean, the very beginning. It's actually in the trailer, so I can tell here. But the very beginning when they put the pitchfork. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Right. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Pitchfork through someone and they're like our back arched in the silhouette in the clown. Cornfield or the cornfield. I mean, those are phenomenal. But they're also, to me, like just the right amount of them. You could have easily gotten this to like a splatter film where there's just kills everywhere, which in the book they're. I mean, during the massacre. In the book is a lot of kills. Yeah. But there's just enough. [00:58:14] Speaker B: That was one thing that we had in the book that they didn't have and Liz had mentioned in it, and I agree was the tension of losing the rest of your friends because these other clowns are doing something. So you had to do both sides and that got left out of the movie. [00:58:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:28] Speaker B: You know, you had to keep returning to try to save your classmates and friends because of what was going on in the book. They just left that whole thing out of the movie. So I, I do agree with that. That would have been another spot that I kind of missed out on. But overall, yeah, the, the kills in this movie are good. The. I don't know, all the scenes in this movie are fantastic. It's crazy. We have watched movies that are much higher budgeted and absolutely suck. Like, are horrible. And this movie is like such a, A low budget in the terms of movies now and was a great watch. Like really enjoyable. [00:59:05] Speaker A: Well, so here's the question. Is it two things? Is it, is it. The source material is good. So you have that, that's number one. I think Adam Caesar's book the Gun in the Cornfield from Harper Teen. And then you got. Eli Craig was obviously gonna put a name on his own for making some good movies. I said Tucker, Tucker and Dale vs Evil is a fun, fun movie to watch, a horror movie to watch. And then this is great. And then Carter Blanchard, the person who helped write the screenplay, co wrote the screenplay for this movie is this basically say that they did that that group together is probably a good pairing to make this movie a million dollar movie into something that's you know. Oh, an unaccredited writer. On Independence Day resurgence. He did a, we did a tv, two episodes of a TV show Good versus Evil and then he's got Clown in the Cornfield. He's crazy directed. So he co wrote it with, with Eli Craig. But I, you know, again, well written. I think the acting and casting was done well. I think the special effects, both practical effects and any sort of cgi, they end up. [01:00:10] Speaker B: I think that was a good thing was that they didn't have, they didn't have to go beyond what they needed to with their budget. And that helped. And they did. All the practical effects were done really well. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:20] Speaker B: So nothing looked bad, nothing was cheesy or hokey and nothing was over the top or like wow, that CGI doesn't hold up. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:27] Speaker B: Because we're doing something that our, because we're doing something our budget doesn't allow. Which I feel like is a lot of our other movies. We're like okay, we've got a 2 million, 3 million dollar budget. However, what we're doing, things like man thing. [01:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Really require a seven million dollar budget. So instead it just looks like crap. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:43] Speaker B: Like you know so well knowing you're. [01:00:46] Speaker A: Knowing your, your, your, your lane and staying in that lane is some of it too. And I think that's one of the things that, that, that Damian Leone has gotten with terrifiers that he knows how to make these crazy movies. But, but he knows his state in his lane. We're new practical effects. We're gonna do kills that make sense. And I think the same thing here. I think we did kills that make sense. Practical effects that make sense. I think part of it's the acting you didn't get. Will Sasser was the biggest name in this thing and that says Something Will Sasser's name isn't that big, but he's the biggest name in the. In this movie. And I think that adds to it because I feel like you're not focused so much on if they hired Timothee Chalamet to play Cole. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Right. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Focus solely on Timothy Chalamet playing this character. That's taking you out of the element of watching this horror movie. [01:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah. We don't have Scarlet Johansson trying to play a high school student. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Or, you know, teacher is not someone famous or whatever. Because even in, like, your Ghostbusters, I. [01:01:35] Speaker B: Think that was good. And I think. And speaking of our upcoming movies and stuff like that, I think that's the thing I'm very nervous about for Fantastic Four. [01:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:41] Speaker B: Is the fact that I am just gonna see Pedro Pascal constantly. Not Mr. Fantastic. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Yeah. The fact that I didn't. Besides him, I didn't recognize any of these actors. And they were all. They were also very good. All the actors did an amazing job in this movie. [01:01:56] Speaker A: So I think that's. I think that's part of it. I think that's one of the reasons why I say in the future. I just read. I read a book called Cold Eternity for that horror book club. And some part of our fun topics, which I think we should get into with our book club over at Galactic Comics is if this was made into a movie, who would you cast as the character? I thought is a kind of a cool icebreaker or whatever is when we were talking about it, I'm like, you know what? I see this book called Eternity with nobody famous in it except for there's a character in it that shows up twice, maybe three or four times. That could be your famous person, because that'd be fun. It'd be funny to see this famous person be this person. But otherwise, I feel like one of the best parts about this is the story itself. And so the characters are secondary. And so if you need the characters to be secondary, you need them to be secondary characters or actors. I don't think you can make it. You couldn't put Pedro Pascal as the main character because immediately you're just focused on the fact that it's Pedro Pascal you're not focused on. Or like, you couldn't. Do you know the guy who plays Harry Potter? I forget his name. Dino Radcliffe. Harry Potter. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel Radcliffe. Natalia Craig. [01:02:57] Speaker B: James Bond is Harry Potter. Yeah. [01:03:00] Speaker A: So, I mean, so we're getting down to the nitty gritty. [01:03:02] Speaker B: Close enough. [01:03:04] Speaker A: So IMDb for a horror film. Okay. This is another Thing which is another one they have to look into. The exit polls for this movie were right on par with horror films. Again it's so hard to relate horror film versus a drama film versus a comedy. Compare this other thing major films versus like obviously Thunderbolts probably had a better exit polls than this did because it's obviously a Marvel movie. It's a different thing. So 6.2 on IMDb again for a horror movie with low budget like this based off of a novel that no one not known. It's a very. Not very well known novel is excellent in my opinion. 6.2 excellent. 73% certified fresh on rotten tomato for critics for this movie. So a certified fresh horror movie is also not a very common thing which is pretty awesome. 61% for. For fans or users. And again I think users are a little bit more critical on things anyway. I don't think that they don't. They don't see it more objectively that the critics are movie based on merit, not on based on and stupid things. So I ultimately want to in my heart, my heart so badly I want to give this five stars. But it's not a five star movie. I'll tell you that right now. It's a four star movie for me. And that become solely based on. I think the book is still better which is not. You shouldn't really take into effect because they're two different mediums. [01:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's hard. You shouldn't compare one to another. [01:04:28] Speaker A: But the small things that happened in this movie that I missed from the book took that down a star. Because everything else, the production, the story, the flow, the speed, the graphics, everything in there to me was excellent. It was the stuff that was left out. You know talking about the killing or the. The death of his Arthur's sister that to me I wanted to see. You know there's some other things that. Yes the small things added up that I wish you mentioned. I wish it was a two hour movie and that all was put in there. That was a two hour movie that put on there and my hearts it would have been four and a half five stars. Just because I like the book so much. I like the movie so much. I love the material so much that probably would have. [01:05:05] Speaker B: I get that a lot of times it's hard to have a longer horror movie. [01:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Like I think horror movies are supposed to be short to a degree. But I do think this could have had more of that thriller side of it which are movies I tend to like better too. I'm not a Big horror movie fan. But I do really enjoy thriller and suspense movies. So I think I'm with you. I would do a four star review on and I agree the book. I love the book. But I think that's those simple things that could have been in this movie that weren't to just draw that out a little bit. Have a little bit more of that depth, a little bit more of that who done it side. A little bit more of that suspense. Because it did lead more into just being more of a slasher horror. [01:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:45] Speaker B: And being kind of quick. So I would agree. I think I'd go four stars and if it had a bit more suspense and a bit more depth, the characters, I probably would have gone five star on it for. [01:05:54] Speaker A: I'll tell you right now because you want it. [01:05:57] Speaker B: You want to involve these characters. You want to like these people and feel like, oh God, I hope they survive. [01:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:03] Speaker B: And I. You didn't really get as much of that because it went by so quick. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:08] Speaker B: So there wasn't as much being on the edge of your seat like, oh, I hope this kid makes it. I hope that kid survives. I hope this and that. So yeah, I think four stars is. Is appropriate. But still it's, hey, go watch it. It's a fun movie. [01:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I think four and a half would have been my thing if that one line wasn't spoken in the middle. Like if they. And they just cut that section out. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Of the movie out of there. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Do you mean like that just one line that was said by a specific character that really honestly, for the person who had never seen the movie or read the book sitting next to me when it took them out of the element of what the movie was about, immediately took me and go, okay, that's not perfect. And so that's where I started picking the movie apart a little bit more. Not again. It's a extremely well made movie for A, the budget. [01:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:52] Speaker A: And B, for little known people. I mean everybody on this whole thing, including Adam is a less known person. And so like the whole thing is lesser known. And for them to do this well on a. [01:07:03] Speaker B: Basically we had to petition to try to get the movie into our theater. [01:07:07] Speaker A: Yes. [01:07:08] Speaker B: So thank you. Black Bear Cinemas. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. So that was, that was a great thing when you. [01:07:14] Speaker B: When you went, how many people were there? [01:07:18] Speaker A: I was, I went during the day though. So it's on a week. [01:07:22] Speaker B: So that's just it. We both had weird times to go. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah. It wasn't fully. It wasn't full. But there was people there. But it wasn't. Okay, but here's the deal. Here's the deal. Horror movies are never full unless they're like. Unless it's like the remake of Halloween or some sort of like, you know. [01:07:38] Speaker B: I guess a lot of attention. [01:07:40] Speaker A: The movie Sinners that just came out recently was probably not extremely well attended in Maine and in our area for the first couple of viewings. But then when like the Internet was like, oh my God, I gotta go see the Sinners movie, I'm guessing future showings for like, like ramped up. But I think that to me it was like I said there was, there was. I don't know, it's not. I can't tell because I get how many seats that were in there and it was dark. So obviously it's a little bit different. But it wasn't full. [01:08:02] Speaker B: We had a private showing. [01:08:03] Speaker A: Oh really? [01:08:04] Speaker B: We were the only people in the theater. [01:08:06] Speaker A: It was like Sunday afternoon. [01:08:07] Speaker B: Right, but it was Sunday afternoon. I will say it was. It was a rainy cloudy day, so I would have expected. And there overall weren't as many people at the theater itself. It's funny because I saw like five people I knew, but there really weren't as many people there as I would have thought on a day like that. Anyways. Yeah, but yeah, we got a private, our own private theater rental. It was just us. [01:08:30] Speaker A: But like I said, I'm not. That's not surprising to me. But it obviously is proof in the pudding that back to back weekends they did about three something million dollars. Yeah, obviously people are going to film and I'd like to see how this week goes and then next weekend goes and see if it gets to nine. I would not be as crazy. I mean probably is gonna do about the 8 to 9 million, but I would love to see it hit the 10 million dollar thing. And again, the more money it makes, the more people that go see this movie, guys, the better chance that we're gonna see a sequel. Which to me is, is just more fun. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Why when I got home, the first thing I did was go tag everything into the social media post of like, go see this movie. Yeah, like go see it. It's fun. Support your local theater. Support independent films. I said, you know, support independent bookstores. Go buy a book. [01:09:12] Speaker A: Book, yeah. And the book is available. So like you can go get Connor the cornfield. I think the big, big, big stores like Amazon have I think some hardcovers. If you're looking for the hardcover of the original novel, it might be a reprinting. And I'm not 100. Sure on that. But, like, it doesn't really matter. If you want the hardcover, I believe you can get it on some online. [01:09:28] Speaker B: I bought my copy at the bar. [01:09:29] Speaker A: Patch and so that's available like that. But the current one, if you want a more cost friendly and affordable version of it, this one's 15.99 and it's the paperback and it's the movie variant on it. So there's that, which is really cool. It's funny about. This is not actually a poster that's been used the most, which is kind of funny that this is the variant for the movie poster. This is not the one that's like the most recognizable poster. [01:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Because they had the movie poster hanging up. [01:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:09:59] Speaker B: And it's more of the cornfield, like Friendo sort of back in. It looks sort of more like your shirt. [01:10:03] Speaker A: And if you don't speak English and you want the French copy, you can get the French copy. If you don't speak French or English and you want the German copy, you can get the German copy, which has. I'm really glad it doesn't look like this in the movie. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, That's a little too. [01:10:26] Speaker A: It. [01:10:27] Speaker B: That was like, almost like they just found an image from an old thing that didn't get used. And they're like, oh, we'll put that on with the fingernails. And it looks more like an. A monster. [01:10:38] Speaker A: Yes. It's creepy. That's why I have it. Yeah. The French version. Because the French version I just thought was a pretty badass cover. Like, I just thought that was a cool. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Okay, that's. [01:10:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that's really cool cover. But I just had to have it. And so I have these two. There's one more. [01:10:54] Speaker B: All these other links. One more you don't even read. [01:10:57] Speaker A: It's. There's another South American version of the book that has a cool cover. And that's another reason why I want it. [01:11:03] Speaker B: You haven't hunted that one down yet? [01:11:04] Speaker A: No, it's just I. You have to pay 30 bucks a piece for them, Paul. [01:11:07] Speaker B: So it's like stack of books you can't read, Paul. [01:11:11] Speaker A: I spend $30 there and not spend $30 at the shop. If you want. [01:11:14] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. [01:11:15] Speaker A: No, I mean. [01:11:16] Speaker B: Okay, so I'll sub it out. Galactic Comics will find the copy for you. [01:11:21] Speaker A: And then Clown in the cornfield 2, friend that lives and clown in the cornfield 3. The Church of Friendos are also available at your bookstores, so you can check those out there. They're also available in audiobook and Stuff like that. So if anybody wants those. And again, I think this is still in theaters and I would like everybody to go see it in theaters. Two reasons why it's better experience. It supports local theaters as well as puts money in the bank for the movie production companies and then make more movies. However, if it's not your thing and you don't want to go to the movies, understandable. You want to watch in your home. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Theater or whatever, streaming soon. [01:11:54] Speaker A: It sounds like in the middle of June you'll see, you'll get it on Shutter or wherever digital movies are sold. So you can check that out. Four stars, I think is a reputable score for movie like this. And I think that it's one of. [01:12:05] Speaker B: The highest like ratings we've given a movie. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Yep. Congratulations to Adam Caesar on the adaptation of your novel. Congratulations to Eli Craig and Carter Blanchard and the people over at Shutter and Temple Hill and RJL E, whatever the hell they are, because this movie was awesome. I'm glad it's a success. I can't wait to more. I want more comics. I told Paul. To Adam, I want more comics. You know, so on and so forth. But the next novel I'll be reading from Adam is the adaptation of the remake. Remake of the Toxic Avenger. It comes out this summer. So nice. It's the remake of Toxic Avenger. [01:12:35] Speaker B: We watched the original Toxic Avengers. [01:12:37] Speaker A: It's on the calendar. It's on the calendar. [01:12:40] Speaker B: So the next movies, I think that'll be a fun viewing. I've never watched it. I imagine it's hokey as all hell because I mean, it's an 80s. [01:12:46] Speaker A: Yes. [01:12:47] Speaker B: Probably not a high budget movie. [01:12:48] Speaker A: No. So here's the deal. So Paul, if schedule stays similar, I mean, I just got thrown a curveball that I'll tell you about after we stop recording. But Paul Eaton. So it looks like we're gonna do the revival season one episode one review, hopefully. So that will be out there too because that'll be fun. That might be a high rated thing too for us because we're both obsessed with the comic on that one. And it looked like, according to the trailer, it looked like this movie. Whereas there'll be a lot of oh shit moments from the comic book or the original material. And then after that one we'll be doing Back to the Future because the Back to the future 40th anniversary is this year. And so we're gonna do that one. That would be a high rated movie, obviously for us. [01:13:26] Speaker B: That's going back to Theater two too, isn't it. [01:13:28] Speaker A: I believe so. I think there's certain ones. Yeah. If you live in the Bangor area or no area. Black Bear Cinemas has a bunch of great older movies coming too, like Jumanji and this Christmas during Christmas vacation and stuff like that. [01:13:39] Speaker B: I'm hoping they do Jaws because the big 50th anniversary for Jaws. [01:13:42] Speaker A: Jaws. The 50th anniversary. It was depending on Jaws versus back to the Future. And I thought Back to the Future was more fun to talk about and discuss and talk about future travel and all that stuff and so on. [01:13:51] Speaker B: If you're going to. But Black Personas. You can see the Galactic Comic Theater. [01:13:55] Speaker A: And you can get an OBC beer, too. [01:13:57] Speaker B: Yes, you can get an OBC beer. I was shocked. Not on Sundays, apparently. [01:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Really? Yeah. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Friday and Saturday only. [01:14:04] Speaker A: It makes sense. They're staffing, probably and all that stuff too. [01:14:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:09] Speaker A: Fantastic Four will be July because we're doing that because of the movie. And then Toxic Avengers coming out in August. So we'll do that in August 2005. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:19] Speaker A: First. First movie outside of. [01:14:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:22] Speaker A: The first released movie. [01:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah. We've already done a lot of problems. I'm gonna have a lot of problems with that movie. [01:14:26] Speaker A: Me too. And then we'll do the Toxic Avenger because that Come. That remake comes out starting. The remake is starting. Peter Dinklage as the Toxic Avenger. So that would be fun to do that. And then the adaptation of the. Or the novelization of that movie is coming out next week in September by Adam Caesar. He didn't want to do any novelizations of anything, but he said, if you do one, I want to do this one. And two days later, he got an NDA to. To sign to do the. So he was like, okay, fine, now. Now I have to do it. [01:14:53] Speaker B: That's awesome, too. [01:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:55] Speaker B: Good for him. [01:14:56] Speaker A: And one last pitch for Adam, just so you know, Influencer is a book that you could read that if you're looking for that young adult novel that just barely makes the young adult crowd Influencers. Also in that category about. I guess I'm asking social media influencing and things like that. [01:15:12] Speaker B: I feel like when I find an author I like, I start reading like. Like all of their stuff if I like a book from them. And I like. A lot of. [01:15:18] Speaker A: What I'll say is if you do decide to read that book is also available on Audible because it was an Audible book first and then it became not A novel is the first get to the first chapter. And it's not because the first chapter is bad. The first Chapter is freaking intense. Once you get that first chapter, don't put it down because of how intense the first chapter is, because then it gets a little less intense. There's still an intense book. But the first chapter I could see is his wife has actually read the script and doing the things multiple times, and she's actually skipped after the first time really reading it. Skip the first chapter. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah. [01:15:49] Speaker A: Just so you know. So just get past the first chapter, and then you'll like it. So it's called Influencer. And then Dead Mall, you can check out Dead Mall, get the trade paper back at, you know, places like Collected Comics and Collectibles. It's a great abandoned mall horror. [01:16:02] Speaker B: Do not check your LCs. If they don't have it, that's for it. [01:16:06] Speaker A: And I always will throw it out there. You can go to Adam Caesar's website, because Adam Caesar has. You can buy signed copies of things that are sent out from a local bookstore in Pennsylvania, where Adam lives. But very cool Clown the Cornfield feature film is in theaters now. As this episode drops. If not. And you listen to this way later very often either. [01:16:23] Speaker B: Most of it is like, go see if you can hope to find to watch this movie that you probably don't want to watch anyways, because we didn't want to watch it, but we did. So this is actually one that is in theaters. It's in theaters right now, and it's a great watch. [01:16:35] Speaker A: And if not, if you're listening to this later on, it's available on streaming and shutter and all that stuff so that, you know, do that. But right now, go to your local theater and see this movie like. Like right now, like, stop listening to this and go see it. [01:16:45] Speaker B: Wait in line. Get tickets. [01:16:46] Speaker A: Oh, we have a job away. Call in sick. Go see this. [01:16:50] Speaker B: Overrated. I stopped doing that years ago. [01:16:53] Speaker A: I was trying to get you to close the shop to go see. [01:16:55] Speaker B: You did, too. Yeah. I was, like, taking Wednesday off and I was like, I really. [01:17:00] Speaker A: I think we would have. If Liz didn't want to see the movie, we would have. We would have figured this out. We would have been like, whatever. [01:17:05] Speaker B: If. [01:17:05] Speaker A: If we back in two hours. [01:17:08] Speaker B: The littles out of the daycare, you know, we probably would have just gone. I would be like, oh, screw it. [01:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that closed sign that has, like, the arrow when you're coming back. [01:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Like, be back and, like, have it be like two hours from now and just be like, cool. We're back in two hours. And a lot of your customers wouldn't have. Wouldn't have cared. A lot of your customers would have been like, cool, I understand. [01:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They would have been like, where'd you. Oh, yeah, no, that's. That's actually. They probably started showing up at the. [01:17:31] Speaker A: Movie theater asking you questions. Hey, can I get my poll list? List? Do you have my pull list with you? Do you take debit? Okay, cool. [01:17:41] Speaker B: That was it. Yesterday. I'm in the theater and I got people yelling to me as I'm, like, running out before the movie starts to go grab some more napkins and a straw. Liz dropped her straw. And I run out to grab this stuff, and I get Paul, and I turn around and it's one of my customers, and he's like, what's going on? What are you here to see what's new in the shop? And I'm like, I gotta go. [01:18:00] Speaker A: First of all, return your ticket and come see the movie with me. Oh, you have kids. Never mind. Let them go see that movie and we'll go see this movie. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Right. [01:18:09] Speaker A: Which is kind of funny. Yeah. So, yeah, Con the Cornfield. Four stars. Let's do it. Galactic Comics and Collectibles is on Hammond street in Bangor, Maine. Collectibles.com. five stars. Yeah, five stars right there for. For Galactic Comics. And then if you've listened to this before, May 30th and 31st of this year, 2025, check out Galacticon. We're in Brewer. [01:18:30] Speaker B: So I hear rumors are almost sold out of 2026. So if not, you're listening to it later. Don't worry, you can go to this the next year. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Yep. I truly. I'd highly recommend doing this. It's gonna be fun time and so on and so forth. Such Galacticon Comic show that Paul and I put on with our friend Lance and. Yeah, check it out. But in the meantime, get in your. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Car, drive to Remain. Come here. [01:18:50] Speaker A: We'll get him here. He's a. He's a busy, busy individual, but I. I think that there's a possibility of that because, again, he writes books and comics. So we can partner with the briar patch again and do some. Something cool with that. We can't do a beer. We can't do a beer because all of his books are young adult books, so it doesn't make any sense to do beers with them. [01:19:04] Speaker B: But that is true. [01:19:06] Speaker A: I said, hey, can you do one? That's, like, just barely an adult book, so we can, like, you know, whatever. [01:19:10] Speaker B: But no, just get that line crossed a little bit, is what it is. [01:19:13] Speaker A: You know, if Dead Mall came out. Maybe we could have done Dead Mall, but it's too late now. But cool, Paul, it's always great. I'll see you this week. Yeah, but thanks for coming on, Shannon. Clown in the cornfield. [01:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah, great times. [01:19:25] Speaker A: We'll talk soon. [01:19:26] Speaker B: And there's the phone.