Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles at galactic comics and collectibles.com Fittingly enough, the comic retailer and proprietor of that store, Galactic Comics, is back once again to talk about another movie. This time around, the Super Mario Brothers movie from 1993, where two Brooklyn plumbers, Mario and Luigi, must travel to another dimension to rescue a princess from the evil dictator King Koopa and to stop him from taking over their world. Yeah, you'll hear all kinds about this movie.
Yeah, this is not your 2023 Super Mario Bros. Movie or the new one in the theaters right now. It is different. But before you listen, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Blue sky threads, all those places, as well as rate reviews, subscribe over on Apple, Spotify or wherever you find your podcast. You can also watch the video portion of this podcast over on YouTube.com and as always, you can visit catcapesentice.com for so much more. But this is a discussion of the 1993 the Super Mario Brothers movie with Paul Eaton, Galactic Comics and Collectibles. Enjoy everyone.
Am I gonna get shut off of that? Welcome to the podcast, Paul.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Good question.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: I don't know if it ask me like, I don't know if like the algorithms or the AI nowadays are gonna like pick up on like my horrible, you know, rendition of the Mario Super Mario Brothers theme song. But I'll tell you what, Paul. I was happy with this movie that it started off that way. Like the very first song you hear in the movie is the theme song. Right? I mean that. That's where they ended. That's where they should have stopped.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: That's about the end of it. Yeah, you did a good job.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Credits. Let's just turn the movie off now.
This is a credits only movie.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: So here's a question I'm gonna pose to you first.
Did you watch this movie as a kid?
[00:01:58] Speaker A: Not as a. Not as a. I mean when they came out in 93, I would have been 7
[00:02:04] Speaker B: in theory with a target audience. Although.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So there's a quote and I wanted to say that. No, it's just. No, I was probably more in my teenage years so probably early 2000s when I watched it for the first time, I stumble. It's more of a stumble upon. Probably because at the time I'm like doing something like at maybe at like a dollar bin or some sort of five dollar DVD bin. And it was in it. And I was like, wait, they made a Super Mario Brothers movie? Like that kind of thing.
I was also a big fan of. I mean, I love the movie the Pest with John Leguizamo. And so I'm, I was like, I like John Leguizamo. And so that connection too. And plus Spawn, John goes on playing, playing a violator clown.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah, this is now, this is now our second movie we've seen at the minute.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: But no. So here. It's a funny thing if I mentioned it.
I didn't see it. But you mentioned it being a kids movie. John Leguizamo. I was looking up some stuff, felt one of the biggest reasons why it went the way it was is the directors wanted to be more of an adult movie when the studio was considering the source material, saying it should be more of a kids movie. So there was like that mixture of like it didn't really know its audience thing.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: No, this movie definitely felt lost in that. So I didn't see it as a kid either. I was 11. So I probably was once again, potentially the target audience for this movie. Also I say it's interesting, target audience because it kicks right off going into Brooklyn with a giant Newport Cigarettes ad.
Like a huge billboard for cigarettes. And I'm like, oh, that's an interesting choice.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: Well, you got to get them into it young, Paul. Like you have to be into cigarettes as a young person. So they're addicted and they'll be good forever. No, it's also a difference in time because they don't do ads like that in movies anymore. Like you don't see ads or cigarettes and things like that too. But yeah, but yeah. You didn't know what, what age range it was trying to go for?
[00:03:43] Speaker B: No, not at all. And I didn't, I didn't watch this movie either. So I remember as a kid, my first thing, I feel like the previews I didn't think looked great. And then the action figure line came out for this, like before the movie really released. And the figures themselves look stupid. Like the characters looked stupid. And I was like, I'm out. I'm, I'm good. I'm not watching this.
And it's funny because Liz watched this with me and she watched it as a kid. So she has like nostalgia vibes for it.
So it's interesting the difference. Like you and I have no nostalgia
[00:04:18] Speaker A: for this movie other than that it's one of those movies you like to. You love to hate. So it Becomes that like it's in the, the, the vort. Your vortex a little bit because like you talk about it because you like to on it kind of thing like that kind of that it's not like,
[00:04:31] Speaker B: like this is not good.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Well, it's funny too because like they came out in 19, the video game, like the mass produced most popular video game. Because there was obviously the arcade game prior to the, to the Nintendo game. But the mass produced came out in 85. This movie came out in 93. And so it was only eight years. And Bob Hoskins even said in interviews that he didn't know he was making a superhero or sorry, a video game adaptation movie when he signed on to this movie. Like this movie wasn't in his, like to him it wasn't like he wasn't, he wasn't into video games.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: 1990 was like one of the biggest super Mario drops. Like that was the big like game that really, really like.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: But if you're not into video games
[00:05:13] Speaker B: mainstream, but if you weren't into it,
[00:05:14] Speaker A: you might not, you might not like, it might not be. I mean there's things that I, I, I say to you, we're into pop culture and we know these things. But there's things where I'm like, how the hell do you not know about this to someone now?
Like, how do you talk to somebody and be like how do you not know this?
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Like, video games were definitely still oriented to kids at that point in time, which I think is some of the confusing part of this movie.
Because at that point in time your video game system was a family thing and a children's thing.
And I could see Mario while being huge, still not necessarily catching like this actor particularly.
And then this movie was so confusing as to is this adult as a kid it has like sexual overtones, cigarettes constantly, the cigarette ad.
But yet at the same time it's not adult. Like the plot makes no sense.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: No, they also, even if you said hey, this is going to be a loose adaptation of the video game, it still did. It's still not a good movie. This is not like hey, they didn't do a good job with the adaptation of the video game.
They just, they also just made a bad movie. So forget change the name and change the plumbers names and make it so it's like not even connected to the movie, the video game at all. You could easily do that. It would be a horrible movie anyway, so it'd be lost even further. The only reason why it's even in popular culture nowadays is because of the name in relation to the video game.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: 100%, yeah. And it's developed a cult following. Even though I think the cult following is for the fact that this was the first video game movie. This. You know, I was reading about how this movie tried a lot of stuff that at the time, it was really pushing your computer graphics. Stuff that certainly was not there. You watch this and it's terrible. But Liz was like, I don't know. She's like, I have nostalgia for this bad 90s attempt at CGI. Like, she's like, it's so 90s. I'm like, it does. It shows. It shows its age. And it also shows it exactly at that. It's like going back and playing old video games now where the graphics are bad. But you appreciate it because it is what it is.
So I can see some people having that vibe for this. And the fact this movie is just such a tank. It bombed. Like, it's considered one of the worst movies ever made.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: It is. But it's also thinking about it.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: It's like, I think because of how much they invested in this movie.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Well, maybe 42. That's if you just base it off, obviously, advertising for it and all that stuff is not included in these products, these things. This is basically like a lot of times when a Movie's made for $100 million, they spend $500 million on the whole thing because they have $400 million in advertising. But it was made for 42 to 48 million dollars. Estimate it made 39 in the box office. So it's like, if you think about it, out of the scale of what movies we've watched in the past who have failed and miserably failed to see movies failed, it didn't do as bad in the box office as it probably should have done. But that's mainly, probably, again, has to do with the fact that Super Mario Brothers name was on it. And so that if you. Everybody went to see it and it wasn't. If it was today, if this movie came out today and was this bad, no one would have gone and seen it. But because social media wasn't a thing where you couldn't tell your friends all over the globe, the movie was sucked.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: I'm sure this was at least one fast food joint being the big feature of the month thing.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: And you had to. You had to walk in, your friends had to tell you, your friends had to tell you and say.
And so someone had to go see
[00:08:27] Speaker B: it with this, the ad for this in the back cover.
Yeah. This was all over the.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Well, I tried to compare it.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Compare Dennis. It's like got Dennis Hoffman in it. Like it's got Hopper.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: Yeah, Dennis Hopper.
And John again, he was hot in that time. John was hot right then the past and. And. And you know, Spawn a little later. But like he was hot in the 90s.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: John makes you wonder like what the hell does. What did Dennis Opera think doing this?
[00:08:54] Speaker A: Well, again, I think some people didn't know like there was like a.
A doctor thought process behind. Like you're going to attach your name to a superhero or a Super Mario Brothers movie. I want to say superhero. I want to say superhero probably a couple times because it's Super Mario Brothers, but.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Right. Well, it feels sort of superhero.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: It did. I mean honestly. But I tried to relate two things. One is what video game now would you relate that if they did it this way, how bad it would bomb. And I thought to myself Minecraft. They did a good job with the Minecraft movie with Jack Black. But so don't. And this is not me shooting on that because that's a really good movie honestly for an adaptation of a video game is if they took Minecraft and did this with it. Like the beginning part, you heard the song, you heard the. And then they went dark and adult themed. It's like there are adults who play Minecraft but there's a lot of younger people who play Minecraft. And so it's like why would you.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Very much in the vein of the Mario like stuff. The like family friendly, the whole vibe.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: Adults play it but it's mainly for kids. And so like. And so it's my whole thought was like if they made Minecraft, this new Minecraft with Jack Black dark like this and it would have bombed. It would have been horrible and so on. So. But it's also one thing I will say about. Just take the whole. This is a conversation about Super Mario Brothers movie from 1993. But like the whole idea of adaptation of video games into movies and it's not really been done successfully most of the time. It's up until I didn't like the Sonic movies. Like I'm not a fan of them but I understand why people do like them.
It's that out of the. Out of fish, out of water.
Taking that one's more taking Sonic to earth and doing it whereas we're not going to the place.
Minecraft was obviously like I mentioned already and then obviously the newer Super Mario
[00:10:43] Speaker B: Bros. Was actually very fun.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: The newer Super Mario movies I feel
[00:10:47] Speaker B: like it's a little hard on that side with the Super Mario Brothers being animated because I feel like the video game side lends to animation. Like you. You should go hand in hand.
So although still having a plot and a point is the other catch.
But I feel like going to live action in video game world becomes very interesting. Especially doing these family friendly things because some of this stuff just doesn't look right.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Well, I never understood the White Paul, why they didn't go like. So say they make a Red Dead Redemption movie. Okay, take the story from Red Red Dead Redemption one or two and then just make it a movie with a couple of small changes. It would kill it. Just take the most stuff.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Seems to like want to reinvent the wheel.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: It's ridiculous. If they made a San Andreas Grand Theft Auto movie, they'd make it where he didn't steal cars or some sort of weird thing. And I'm like, why do you have to take and make it different? Most of us just play the game. It'd be so interesting to see a small variation of what the game was like. Take the story from. It's obviously harder in a little bit of the open world like Fortnite, obviously you couldn't easily do that. And there's some of the ones where like you can't really take it.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Ones that don't necessarily have plots.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah. But like I could see. And there's other ones where it's like a generic thing like Modern Warfare. If they did like a Call of Duty movie, it'd have to just be about war.
Yeah, some of that stuff. But like there's our movies. Like I don't understand why you would take like you'd take a Minecraft movie and make it so they didn't build things or something like that. Like why would they do that? And so this is kind of that sense of like they took, you know, they didn't have a lot to base it on because like obviously the first Super Mario Brothers games, it's not like there's like a humongous plot. You save the princess in the Mushroom Kingdom and there's these things but like sucking the humans, I say sucking into the Mario Mushroom Kingdom.
What they did in the animated film, which was taking the two plumbers and putting them into the Mushroom Kingdom is what they did in this movie. It's just the first 22 minutes, Paul wasn't that bad. The first 22 minutes was like these two plumbers. There was like.
In relation to the adaptation part of it, I should say is that there's These two plumbers, they're down there lock. They're looking for the next thing. He falls and falls for a girl. And so he goes and she shows him why they're stopping. They're digging. And the plumber, again, it seemed almost cartoonish that these guys are, like, full dressed in the suit of the person who they work for. And they're breaking something to flood the thing. And they're running off. Like, I wanted to hear.
I wanted to hear, like, a noise that I'm running away.
But all of that and then. Then having to come save the day and getting pushed into the mushroom kingdom, all of that was like, okay, cool. This movie's gonna be good. Like, up until that point, you're like, cool. And then you get down there, you're like, this is someone who's on drugs who decided that they wanted to make, like, come on.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: I feel like, this ridiculous. It was like the first part was written by a different person, and the next person dropped acid and came up with this, like, in the design of it all, too. What if we did this? So bizarre and so, like, not Mario. No. There's, like, color. Hell is going on.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: At least eight bit Mario had, like, pops of color in it. Like, you had the blue background, like, green. And like, people.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: It's all dark and grungy and noirish and, like, looks like a Frank Miller movie or something. Like. And like, the weird. Like, they're still all humans except the ones that aren't.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: They derive. They derive from dinosaurs. Not from. From monkeys, though. Come on.
[00:14:17] Speaker B: Right, but they're all humans. But then some of them aren't. But then the cars and the weird, like, running off of, like, generators. And they look like. They look like the old, like, toy tin cars sort of that have, like, the power system there. They have to. That stay attached to stuff and, like, just chaos everywhere. It's not even. Like, it makes no sense in the acting of all of the characters. All these background characters are so bizarre.
Like, it was like they. It was like they said, all right, what we want you all to do is just be in a rave and we're just gonna film around it.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: That stuff where it's like, it's in the future, but not really.
Like. Like, I know I love my Star wars, but it's always like the Star Wars. Futuristic, but still in the past somehow. Like, it's like one of those things where, like, they're all still wearing stuff we used to wear before. We got, like, sewing machines. And now we have, like, you know, like, it's this, it's this weird, like wants to look futuristic but really looks really poor and didn't have.
Yes, exactly.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: It was like they, they used a bunch of excess stuff from the Mad Max movies.
And like, I don't understand. And then like, they still have cops, but the cops are all dirty and all work for Koopa. But then why are they cops? Like, what, where, where are all the traditional Mario characters involved? Well, there is like none of the traditional Marvel villains.
Marvel villains. Mario villains. Besides, you get like, you, you get other characters. You get Yoshi. And we randomly go with Daisy with no mention of Peach. Besides, maybe it's her mom.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Potentially. Well, her dad's a weird mushroom amalgam,
[00:15:56] Speaker B: busy slime horror thing.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: And then she's like, guys, I want you to meet my father is going on right now.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: She doesn't step back from this of being like, oh God. She's not horrified by everything. She's like, oh, daddy.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: I also love these kind of movies where they get sucked into this weird cloth.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Like the, the fungus is like this cloth everywhere.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Well, it was a more literal definition of what a mushroom is instead of what you expect to see in a Super Mario Brothers movie, which is like the true character. Ye. They have like this literal thing that a mushroom can be this like slimy, like ever reaching, flat looking thing. And it's like, that's not growing on everything. That's not what we want as a
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Mario in the fridge or whatever the mil do in the shower.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: Like try to pick that picture that in eight bit. It's like just a line of tan dots. That's the.
But no. And also I love these movies where they're like, they get sucked into an alternate dimension and they're just cool with it.
Like, how do people not go into
[00:16:57] Speaker B: some sort of catatonic in the next like two minutes of just being like, well, all right, you go away on
[00:17:03] Speaker A: vacation, you come back and your house is burnt and people are in catastrophic state for like years.
You go to an alternate dimension and you immediately are like, okay, how are we gonna get out of this?
[00:17:10] Speaker B: Like, you're not just in the fetal position.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: No, like, I'd be like hiding in a corner. Like, we would be. We would be.
There's no way in hell that if I get, if I get sucked into an altered dimension, I'm making it back, I'll tell you that.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: Eating lizards like hot dogs and. Yeah, no, there's just weird people everywhere and the old woman robbing them. And like, what? And then the guy, the Old woman robbing him and then getting, like, thrown by the giant, like, bouncer woman who just picks her up and, like, heaves her.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: And then he falls. Then they fall for. It's just. It's just the whole thing. It's a. It's. No. So there's. So there's this. There is character.
So you have Mario Mario and Luigi Mario. How about that fall that their last names are Mario. You know what's funny about it is after I watched this again, I was like, I have to go look this up. Is this true? It is not. It was made for this movie. Their name is not Mario Mario.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: It's funny because I read that they. This was loosely based, and I'm like, it is freaking loose.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Like, why didn't they just come up with a name?
[00:18:04] Speaker B: Bowser who never really looks like. Never looks like Bowser.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: No, but why didn't they just come up with a name? Why isn't Mario some sort of Italian name? Why didn't they just come up with that name? Like, why do they have to be in the fact that Luigi's not his prince
[00:18:17] Speaker B: last name?
I'm just Mario.
Like, that would have even. Just super.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: That would have been better. I would have been way happier with that. But, like, yeah, to me, it was like, oh, my gosh, they're doing this. And there was this whole bit on it, like, who's on second? Like, Mario Mario. But who's Mario Mario Luigi.
And they're not actually brothers. They're. They're. He was adopted. Is that, like, part of lore or like, something.
It was found. I don't know. Maybe they were setting up my mother. Maybe they were setting up a sequel poll.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Well, it ends with that.
It definitely ends with the plan of a sequel. And I just laughed at the ending of, like, boy, you guys really should have seen where this was going, that you're not getting a sequel.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: Well, I can also picture the. It's a husband and wife directing team. Rocky Morton and Annabelle Jankel. They're married. And so I could picture them being like, if we write, if we get this with the writers and bars and get it together and we make it so there has to be. It's an open ending in a sense that there's a sequel and then see what happens from there. And see what. See where we go from there. And then they're definitely not making it.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. They were counting on, like, this is their retirement. This is going to be their big thing there.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: They basically didn't do anything after this But I think there's a little bit like I said the whole.
So in a 2011 interview with the Guardian, Bob Hoskins described the film's production as a fucking nightmare.
The whole experience was a nightmare. Can you imagine hearing someone do this interview after a movie was based around a children's like if like after they made the Super Mario Brothers movie with the animated one, like it was a fucking nightmare. It was a husband and wife team directing whose arrogance had mistaken, had been mistaken for talent. After so many weeks, their own agent told them to get the fuck off the set. It was a fucking nightmare. Fucking idiots. That was the interview in 2011 that, that Bob Hoskins gave the Guardian about how like this husband and wife and I'm like to me honestly, I don't think I could ever direct a movie with my wife. I, I just. We have two different creative minds that would be good but like it would, they would, they would me not mesh. They would bounce off of each other at certain times. And so I can imagine that being part of it is that they own internally. They were both like kids.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Maybe that's why this movie made so little sense. Yeah, maybe the two of them had these like different opinion or perspective of what this was going to be.
Did you see Harry Potter's aunt in it?
I recognized her and I couldn't figure out why I recognized her and I looked her up and I was like, know any of this stuff that she's been in then towards the end of her credits is like says like the character for Harry Potter. I was like, oh, that's who that is. Like I knew it. I knew I knew her.
The casting, the, the background actors, which there are a lot of, there are a lot of excess background actors that are all poorly done.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: So the, it's actually, it's Harry Potter's. Yeah. The aunt is the person she, that's what she knows, she's known mostly for is that actually that, that she got an extra role. It's kind of funny a couple, a lot of these people wouldn't do other things which is crazy that they didn't get exiled from, from Hollywood for making this movie. But to be honest with you, it's like John Leguizamo.
No, it was Bob Hoskins again or no. Dennis hopper said, My six year old son at the time, now 18, said Dad, I think you probably think you're probably good a good actor. But why did you do this, you know, terrible King Koopa guy? And it says well Henry, I did it. So you can have shoes. And his kid said, dad, I don't need shoes that badly.
It's like, yep, that's. But all that's my thing. It was a page.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: Kids in their honesty.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: Who, who, who in their mind, who in their mind doesn't say yes to a Super Mario Brothers movie?
You know, like, you know, and at
[00:22:04] Speaker B: the time this was the first, the first video game movie. So they're like, oh, I'm gonna make like history with this. We're gonna be the first video game movie.
You probably knew, at least knew that Mario was some sort of major name.
So you know, you gotta figure there was like generally conceived idea this was going to be something, which it is something.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: 48 million dollar budget. I'm guessing that, that there was good salaries. I don't think.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: How did they spend all that on
[00:22:34] Speaker A: all that futuristic mushroom billion cars? The mushroom. The mushroom. Probably really expensive. That like retractable like ball sack looking thing that came out of the. Dad,
[00:22:46] Speaker B: what the hell was that thing doing?
[00:22:47] Speaker A: I don't know. But I mentioned the characters. They are characters that they kind of shoehorned in there. Like there's Toad, but it's not like it's just a guy playing the guitar on the street.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. That what I caught that just briefly that he's like, says his name's Toad.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: We need to make sure the Toad's in this movie. But not really like a toad talking mushroom.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: It's like if he's Toad and he's supposed to be a mushroom, then he should have be devolved to a mushroom. Instead he becomes a.
I understand why some of them have long necks and like look like lizards while other ones have weird dinosaur shrunken skull heads.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: So here they have their technology.
They have the technology in this, in this alternate universe to make people into dinosaur things.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Right, Right.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: I'm not going to use their real names because they're really not. That's not what they are in the content in the video games.
These thingy things, these like, they got like nice suits on and like tiny dinosaur heads.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: This is, this is literally the figure I remember seeing is the Koopa with. Oh, the Goomba. The Goomba with the tiny shrunken head.
And that was the figure that I saw and said that's. By the way, that's pretty awesome.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: That Bob Takik right there.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: That's the character I saw that I said, nope, nope, I'm not watching this. I'm like, what the hell is that?
[00:24:12] Speaker A: It's, it's. They Were in like a suit with spikes on their shoulders and they've got this like, tiny lizard head.
But. But they have the ability to transform people into this. Like, they finally struck, like, technology advancements to the point where they could make people dumb, but they also can make people smart, Right?
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: So why would you have your two dumb henchmen?
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Yeah, Iggy and the other one who were supposed to be Bowser's kids. But they're not in this.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: They're two dumb henchmen. But you could make them smart. But you didn't do that a long time ago.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah, you're not like, a lot. Well, maybe. Maybe they're easier to control that way.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Well, if you made them just a slightly bit smarter, could you do it? Like, is there a level or is there all the way or none?
[00:24:49] Speaker B: Like, because they were pretty stupid.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Because I thought to myself, they put them in there and they're like, oh, they're like talking like, well, there was
[00:24:54] Speaker B: one that was funny. Is them trying to abduct the girls, Trying to find Daisy.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: And they're like, yeah, that's her right there. That's her. Two legs, two arms ahead. That's her.
I'm like, boy, they're. They have very little to go by. But yeah, these two are definitely morons.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: And they tried to make him sound smart. Like, their way they made him sound smart was not even like, to me it was like, just sounded stupid. Like, I don't know, like that's what you like when they came, like, rolling off of the little assembly line thing. Yeah. And they're like. And they're like saying, E equals MC squared. It's like, what are you doing? Like, that doesn't sound smart to me. Like, how can we make them sound smart really quickly? It's make them say high educated words. Highly educated words.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: And that is definitely where this should have been a children's movie. This is where that lent into the child side of it of being just like sort of stupid and goofy and whatever. But then it's. There's tons of scenes that are not that way.
Like, this is a classic 90s confusion, I feel like, of like, are we making a children's movie or not a children's movie?
[00:25:53] Speaker A: And why would you make this an adult movie? I just don't understand it, why you'd
[00:25:58] Speaker B: be trying to make this noir aimed to adult movie based off of what you had in the first place with the Mario characters. And even if you are making an adult movie, it's stupid. It was terrible.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: We'll make an adult version that actually has the characters from the game.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Like if the adult's the target, what the hell were you doing?
Because most of the chaos and weirdness you can lend to being a child's movie. Like okay, fine. But so much of this other stuff was not. And you can feel that they're trying to pull the adults in.
And yet it's a terrible movie. Poorly written, weird plot, weird acting. Just so you're not getting the adult side. You just managed to alienate both of your audiences.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: So there's two redeeming qualities of this movie. The song at the beginning, the very beginning. They played the theme song to Mario
[00:26:45] Speaker B: which when they went through the portal I really wanted to get pipe sound.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Nothing. I was like come on, that's a perfect opportunity.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: They got the rights from Nintendo for the song. But that's it.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: And that's it. They're like we're not gonna spend any money.
[00:26:58] Speaker A: All the other sounds, other silence were way extra money. So like I forget that that the first 22 minutes I I time I looked at the time clocks time stamp on there. Okay, I understand it. It wasn't amazing. But if you're talking about straight video t. Video game adaptation. This is a. A plot device and avenue.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: It's much better to where you need to be.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: How are you going to get to the Mushroom Kingdom with these two plumbers? That's how you do it. Great.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: And they kind of honestly two morons running around on.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: I would love to talk to people from the people who wrote the new movie. Not the one that's in the theaters now, but the one came a couple years ago is because that's basically the same idea. It's basically they're hard on their luck. Plumbers who get sucked into the Mushroom Kingdom underneath New York City. Like that's almost identical in the movies. They're both the same if you look at them. If you look at them side by side opening how they get to the Mushroom Kingdom is nearly the same in a sense. Like there's a couple different changes and things like that. So that. That those are two redeeming and the bombas bomb Bombs. Those are the only ones. Because it actually looked like a little bomb with feet on it and it was like a wind up toy. Like those are the only thing redeeming
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Reebok paid for them to be wearing.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: There's a couple things like that.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: My only other thing with the problem that I had the problem with was like my God, that scene went on forever.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: That thing but the idea behind it, like, okay, that's funny.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: It's upside down. It's funny.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: It's like, okay, that's. That's. That's what you expect from this. And it looked like them from the video game.
And the.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Pulls a Bullet Bill out from behind him and they stick it in the shoe. Which also doesn't make any sense to the character of Bullet Bill. But I did at least, like, that, put it in the weird shoe. Charging.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: Jump. And Yoshi is a dinosaur.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: So, like, Yoshi looks like we had excess parts from. From.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: But my point would be, is at least it was a dinosau. It wasn't. It wasn't a friendly dinosaur.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: He's not the friendly, cute dinosaur. He's like a velociraptor. And she's over there, like, I get like. He's cooing and she's, like, going after him, but he has terrifying teeth that looks like he's going to eat you.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: But at least it was.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: And honestly. So the. The. The. The female character here, the Bowser's mistress, whatever the hell she is, which I don't understand, her character at all is Fiorsha.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, keep talking. Yeah, but forget.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: I don't think she's. I don't think Nicole Bell's right. He's always trying to get Peach. I don't know who the hell this. This woman is.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: Well, she's. She's. She had to add the adultness to it. She needed someone who was jealous of the fact that he's trying to get Peach.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Get Peach or we'll get Daisy.
So, yeah, so I thought you had the perfect opportunity.
The tongue comes out from Yoshi. It wraps around her, pulls it back, and you see her like, oh, Daisy. Like, oh. And she runs.
They could have looked back and had the. The animated Yoshi where he's chewing stuff, you know, and just have him like.
And just be like, oh, that's the end of her. Like, that have been funny and sort of like, okay, Instead, like, she stabs Yoshi.
[00:30:01] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: And, like, runs off and there's Yoshi, like, staggering around with a, like, knife in him. I'm like, what the hell?
What just happened? When I.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: Her name's Lena.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: Come out and come back. What's her name?
[00:30:15] Speaker A: Lena.
No, no connection.
IMDb. If you click on the name, it tells you what other. Yeah, they do video games on there, too. There's nothing else that she's been.
It's a character.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: That would have been the perfect opportunity, I felt like, to get a little Funny Mario Brother humor in there.
Just you would have been set and then it's not see Yoshi again. Really not have her done or finish. And instead like, no, no, she stabbed Yoshi and she's off. I was like, man, you had one more chance to take some sort of redeeming quality for this movie and you flopped again.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: He flopped again. It's, it's, it's, it's the, the epitome of like actor or directors and writers saying taking the 100 chance at.
If we do it this way, we could be freaking like people would love us and we get all the movies in the world. Like if we take it and we make it more post apocalyptic, like weird dimension.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: I mean, looking back in 93, right, we're talking era of Water World and, and Demolition man and.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: But make this movie. You could be gold in Hollywood, but you also could be ostracized from Hollywood. And that's the option. They went both ways. But if you think about basis, like forget the way that, how bad the story was written and stuff like that. They did a good job with the first 22 minutes. Like I mentioned, not good job, but like a way to set it up why they were where they were. Explanation of why the alternate universe or dimension, whatever you want to call it, was where it was. The. The meteors hit and we split into two different dimensions. One we divide from mammals or from, from primates. One they divide derived from dinosaurs. One got pretty good, got it pretty good and the other one got it pretty bad. And that they're trying to merge these things together because they want to take it over. What they didn't really kind of explain in any sort of fashion, I don't remember, is how this other dimension knew this.
Like how does the mushroom kingdom know about us?
[00:32:11] Speaker B: But they don't know, so why do they know about us? Yeah.
[00:32:14] Speaker A: Yes. It's like, it's like the aliens know about us all. There's all kinds of aliens that know about us, but we don't know about the aliens. It's weird.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: The mother which could have been peach into our universe to hide Daisy. So I guess that's your explanation.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: But how did she figure out about the universe though?
[00:32:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Maybe the next movie was gonna be a prequel. Paul.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Well, why is the, the meteor itself apparently just in their universe?
It's not in ours. Like if they dug the hole and found this meteor and half of it was in our dimension and the other half was in theirs to make this like rift that plot would have made more Sense. But we also didn't get that, like, we didn't put that much thought into this because we're making a kids movie. Doesn't have to have that much thought. Then we didn't make a kids movie. We made a noir. Bizarre.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: So let's take. Let's rewrite this movie.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: Weird ass movie.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Let's rewrite this movie in the sense that if you were to take this movie and say there's these two different dimensions in Bob Hoskins and John Gizamo, Mario and Luigi get sucked into this other dimension and the whole. And there's this evil leader.
The whole process is just trying to get back to your own dimension. Would that have been fine? Did we need them to have to try to take over our dimension? Is it literally just needing to escape? Like, I would think that just the literal point of trying to get back to your own dimension is enough of a plot of a movie.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
Point. Bowser could be like really confused about the fact that there's another dimension and that they might have it better than him or that he. He rules this. So he must rule that instead of this like, oh, their world's better and I'm gonna turn them all into monkeys and whatever the hell that was.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: But like, I just don't understand, like, why go so. No, like, so dark and so.
So DC movie?
No, but like, why go that far? I guess, I mean, what's the. What's cheaper? You think it's probably cheaper to make something that dark and dirty and dingy because you don't need to polish everything bright colors and things like that. Did it. Would it look cheesier with John Leguizamo and.
And Bob.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: I appreciated the one part where they got the, the uniforms there at the end that were. Which I also. I don't remember how or why they suddenly had a uniform change to that. I thought another.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: We're gonna make this movie game accurate.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: They're randomly at this, like, nightclub there trying to find the. The stone. And Luigi's wearing a red suit and Mario's wearing a yellow suit. And I was like, this would have been another opportunity for him to be wearing a weird green suit and Mario to be wearing his red suit. And we could have at least had a little.
[00:35:00] Speaker A: No tip of the hat. Little tip of the hat to the.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, all these little things that would have. Would have given a little bit more sentimental value to the Mario world that we just completely didn't do.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Well, you just made me think of something. Is that that it almost seems like if it was made today, obviously would have been a little different back there because they didn't have any Wikipedia stuff, like the different Mario Wiki and all that stuff out there.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Mario's become huge now, like Cult, the
[00:35:27] Speaker A: director and writing team, all of them. So Parker Bennett, Trey Runt Day and Ed Solomon, which I mentioned to you the other day in the comic book shop, is that Ed Solomon wrote Bill and Ted's excellent adventure, which is really funny. So it's a possibility that Ed Solomon, when they don't put this on online, it is easy to find. Is Ed Solomon could have come in to help, like script edits. And he gets a screenwriting credit even though he didn't actually write the full actual screenplay. So let's give him a little bit of benefit of the doubt that he probably came in to polish the script a little bit. Not actually like, it looks like they. If they had, they would have made it today and had access to Wicked. That they would have just been like, okay, what are the characters names from the video game? You know what? And they just made a movie and then decided and use that. Like, okay, they're plumbers.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: No major like fulfillment as to what any of these characters are. Just okay, that's how it is.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Like, you know what it is because to be honest with you, in Mario, like you have like Koopa, you know, Koopa's like, they're all. They're dinosaurs. Like there are dinosaurs in the. In the thing. But. But like all the other characters are not
[00:36:29] Speaker B: turtles too.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I. Oh, they are. They actually are. I should look that up. It was actually our turtle base. There are. I looked it up on the. On the Wikipedia page.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: But then Bowser still goes in a shell and all of his kids, Iggy and Ziggy and the rest of them.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Yeah, now I remember.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Still kind of have the shell.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: I remember looking that up. The actual plot.
Where did it go? There's a plot following the events of Mario Brothers. The game set Sean in the Mushroom Kingdom. Mar Luigi have arrived through a clay pipe in New York City. In the Mushroom Kingdom, a tribe of turtle like Koopa Troopas invade the kingdom and use magic of their king Bowser to turn the mushroom people into inanimate objects such as brick stones and horse hair plants.
So take that line alone, Paul, and make a movie off of it. Like, why do you have to like that? You still could have made an adult. You still could have made it post apocalyptic. But just take that line and say that's what happens. Like, I don't understand.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: I also don't understand who reads the plot and go, yeah, we're gonna make post apocalyptic off this.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Drugs, Paul. Lots of drugs.
I'm telling you right now. I'm not gonna slander these people's names, but drugs, Paul,
[00:37:38] Speaker B: at least be an explanation.
Well, we were really trying to do something great here. Been like, you really should just be like, yeah, we were on some stuff.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: The art of filmmaking, Paul. The art of filmmaking.
Bob Hoskins said he was drunk for most of the movie because it's the only way he gets some of the scenes done because they were so bad that he just needed to be a little bit intoxicated. So, I mean, I. My only thought is like. But only. I like to see the. The. The. The opposite benefit of the doubt. The. The. The, you know, other side of things is that in order to do it for the budget they had, they had to do it this way.
But that does not forgive.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Yes, I don't know. That's a pretty solid budget for the 90s.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: But that does not forgive the plot of the movie. Like, to. My whole point is, like, okay, I understand. Like, if you just take in this, try to pick the movie apart and say, why did they go post apocalyptic weird dimensions.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: I also think it's funny.
The CGI is bad, which you can say, hey, it's 1993. Give him some. Give him some slack. But the practical effects are also bad.
They're both bad. We did not do either of these things.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: Well, I bet they spent millions of dollars on that scrotum thing coming out of the ceiling. Do you know what I mean, though? Like, let's make it move. Like, no one needed to make it move. They had steam coming out of there,
[00:38:50] Speaker B: dripping off of this thing.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: It literally wasn't just all of a
[00:38:55] Speaker B: sudden comes back, end of it, he's coughing up, like, mushroom dust.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: It's one of those. It's. It's a. Is that the reason why. And I'm pretty sure I've heard someone. A rumor online or something online, the reason why it took so long to make another Super Mario Bros. Movie was that this, like, ruined so bad.
[00:39:15] Speaker B: Here's an interesting question.
All right, so this is the first video game movie. Is this why so many of the video game movies suck?
Because this is. What was this, like, the path they got sent down? Because, like, you get, like, Street Fighter, which has some nostalgia vibes to it, but, like, is a terrible movie and the Mortal Kombat movies are not Good.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Well, Double Dragon was next, technically.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Oh, God. Double Dragon.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Double Dragon, then Street Fighter, then. Then Mortal Kombat. And to be honest, Mortal Kombat wasn't great. It wasn't great at all. But it was far better than this. That. That's more of a.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: That's more nostalgia for me to go off of it. Like, Mortal Kombat's plot's pretty freaking basic.
[00:39:53] Speaker A: And we gotta do that one now.
We gotta do that one now because that. That movie was make a killer.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: What the hell is that move that game? Killer. I want to say killer instincts. But is that. Is that the game?
That was very Mortal Kombat, like, right after that.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: It was a lot of live actions. Like the people are human or like, they're like. It's video game adaptations of live action things. Like they're human beings. Like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tomb Raider.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: All those movies has some weird creatures.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: The next video game adaptations were all that Resident Evil. Like, all the ones that were like, alone in the dark. Like a lot of the one Doom where there's like, less creatures. I guess Doom has.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Still sucky.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Awful.
[00:40:32] Speaker B: But yeah. I don't. I don't know where you get, like, max pain, maybe.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: I'm trying to think of, like, what. What the first, like, actually, like, fairly good one. Oh, here we go. This one actually has the Rotten Tomatoes score on. On it. Super Mario Brothers on Rotten Tomatoes, by the way, is 29. Critic. I was. It was. It's now 27. Critic for some reason went down. I don't know how that. That's.
Well, I don't know. I don't like. People are still reviewing it.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: 4.2 million people are going to stumble upon it now after watching the new ones, right?
[00:40:57] Speaker A: No, but that's critic. Critics wouldn't be doing it nowadays.
[00:41:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, that's weird.
[00:41:02] Speaker A: Double Dragon was 12 more ratings for
[00:41:04] Speaker B: it from like, oh, wow. Nope. We already had Cisco and Ebert stuff. But now we're getting some random people
[00:41:09] Speaker A: on the side that maybe it's like, stuff like us. Like, we're not part of that, but maybe there are people who are like, oh, it's the 30th anniversary. Was not that long ago. It was three years ago. So maybe someone did it for the 30th anniversary.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Went back and did it.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: But 12% for Double Dragon, 11% for Street Fighter, for Mortal Kombat got 47%. Okay. For a video game adaptation made $125 million. Okay. That. That's.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: I saw. I saw Mortal Kombat in theater.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: That's probably the most successful video game adaptation up to that time.
You know, so. But then like most of our 4%, 10%. 20, 36, 24, 3%, 18%. Alone in the dark got a 1. 1% one alone in the dark.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: Alone in the dark. I've even heard of that.
[00:41:48] Speaker A: Doom got 18.
Silent Hill was 32%.
I forgot Silent Hill, Max Pain. So to me, I liked Max Payne. It's one of those first style of games I played like that. And like the movie was that bad. It was 3% for Street Fighter, another Street Fighter, the Tekken.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: I think Max Payne came out the same time as the Punisher came out and they was very confusing.
[00:42:12] Speaker A: Made 85 million dollars.
35 million dollar budget. Made 85 million dollars. So it's a successful financially movie. Pretty good. The Tekken adaptation got a zero percent. I didn't even know there wasn't Prince of Persia. 30, 37.
So they're going through here. Need for Speed 23, which is also another one where like it feels like it's fairly easy to make this adaptation of that movie.
Yeah. Which is probably why they did it. But it was made for $66 million. I made $203 million. Jesus.
Okay, so I guess the first like box office financial success, a huge success.
A huge success would have been Warcraft.
It was made for $160 million and made almost 500 million.
But it's only. It's still only a 29% rotten tomatoes score. Assassin's creed 19%. Okay, so tomb Raider, the newer one with what's Her Face, that was a pretty good movie.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Not the Angelina Jolie one, but the.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: No, Alicia Vidker. Vidkinder.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that was actually a pretty good movie.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Made for 106 million. Made 274. Has a 52 rotten tomato score. Rampage with the Rock.
Oh, how about this one? So I'll tell you right now, the first super successful, Amazing, wonderful. I would give it a pretty high score. Video game adaptation of In Time is the Pokemon Detective. Pokemon Movie.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: Yeah, if that counts as a video game one.
[00:43:35] Speaker A: Which is a video game adaptation.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: Yes. Detective Pikachu is fantastic.
[00:43:38] Speaker A: 68 rotten tomato score. Made a half a million dollar. Half a billion dollars. And then it was Sonic the Hedgehog, which again, I don't like as much, but I can understand why some people do.
I don't understand how the new Mortal Kombat movies got such a high 55. That movie sucked.
And then going further than that, I mean, people didn't like Uncharted was one that people kind of liked. And then the original five nights seen
[00:43:59] Speaker B: Uncharted, I think I watched.
[00:44:01] Speaker A: It's Tom Holland and yeah, I think
[00:44:03] Speaker B: I watched it because it was Tom Holland in it. And like it was. Yeah, because he has that scene where he's jumping from.
He's on the plane, he's jumping from the.
The packages or whatever. They're the crates.
Yeah, that was okay.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: At least. Live action list of video films based on video games. Live out. These are all live action ones, by the way. I'm not talking about.
[00:44:21] Speaker B: They are live action. Okay.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:22] Speaker B: Because I didn't know they made a Tekken movie. A Tekken live action movie.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: I guess so. Must have been like directed DVD or something like that. But Five Nights of Friends, the highest Rotten Tomatoes critic score of all live action video game adaptations is actually sonic the hedgehog 3 with 86.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: I started watching that the other day. The, the little one at daycare put it on the third one. I've seen the first one. I never saw the second one. So I'm a little confused watching the third one. But it was like entertaining. It wasn't once again was not very
[00:44:56] Speaker A: like good, but it was entertaining. The highest grossing or highest box office success for a live action video game adaptation with $43 million short of a billion dollars was Minecraft.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: Minecraft was a fun movie and I don't, I don't really play Minecraft nor do I have that much interest in Minecraft, but the movie was very, very fun. I enjoyed the movie.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: So you talk about the first. So Mario Brothers was the first live action adaptation of a, of a video game. It's actually the first adaptation.
Final Fantasy the Spirits within was the first animated video game adaptation. That wasn't until 2001, which is pretty crazy to think about. It was made for $137 million and made a box office success of 85 million.
Lost 50 something million dollars.
Yeah. And a lot of the Ratchet and Clank movie came out. The Angry Birds movie made a crap ton of money.
But then you have resident the Super Mario Brothers movie.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: Watch some of that.
I think, I think Emma went through an Angry Birds phase during that.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: I played Angry Birds for a little bit.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: I don't know that I ever watched all of it. I might have finished that movie.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: So the, the next. It wasn't. It was 30 years later that that the Super Mario Brothers animated movie came out on big screen 30 years later.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: It was 2020 Tetris movie. That's about the making of Tetris. Does that count?
[00:46:18] Speaker A: I don't know.
It was pretty good. I like that.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: I. I mean, it looked interesting. I haven't seen it, but it looks interesting. But I guess that doesn't care because that's about the making of the video game.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Not too much.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Of the actual thing with just blocks falling, which might have been more interesting than this budget.
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Let's look at this. 42 million. A $48 million. Oops, sorry. $48 million in 1993 to versus, now today.
Look at this.
Yeah, I would think so too.
40. Yes. $100 million.
Is that right? I wrote 48,000, not 408,000. I want 408. 48 million.
There you go. Calculate 109 million. $110 million.
Okay. Do you know the budget for the.
For the 2023 animated Super Mario Bros. Movie?
[00:47:13] Speaker B: I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna say 52 million.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: No, $100 million. But still $10 million less technically.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: I mean, I'm trying to figure. I figured. So animations come along so much today. Yes. It's a lot easier, cheaper. You have quite the cast in that movie.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Do you know what it made in the box office?
[00:47:35] Speaker B: I'm gonna say it made 450 million.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Oh, come on, Paul. Get better than that.
$1.36 billion.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw it in theater. I went to the theaters and saw it.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: So think about that. Like how that's the highest grossing video game adaptation movie of all time by far. By like $300 million far.
And the new one is set to surpass that. Really? I think, because it' surprised that it
[00:48:03] Speaker B: beat up Detective Pikachu.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: It released April 1st in the United States, which was two weeks ago. Right. And as of recording this episode, it has made $629 million in two weeks.
And it was for a budget of $110 million, super successful. So do it right and do it animated. So there's certain things I understand why this would be animated. Yes. You have to make the plumbers animated, but the rest of the world seems animated, in my opinion. Like Mario is an anime. Like the.
When you're playing the video games or you're watching the video games, you're seeing animated characters. In a sense, in my mind, when you place like. Like Laura Croft and Tomb Raider, you play Resident Evil.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Things like that, you see they're supposed to be.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: You see real life humans as animation characters on screen. So, like, those movies lend itself to live action. These movies don't. Unless you're doing Sonic. So the way that Sonic was adapted, the way they did Minecraft adapted, which is like having human or real life live action and animation mixed together in that sense, you know, either sucking that character to our world or the other
[00:49:05] Speaker B: into the other world. That's now an animated.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: Yes, but they got it right. And I don't think it's just the actors. I don't think it's just the whatever. It's the mixture of the story, the animation, the timing. Because obviously Mario has grown over the last 30 years as well.
I don't know. Do you think it was on purpose that was 30 years later? Like, like, like almost to the date. 30 years later.
It was like the 30th anniversary. Like, here, we're gonna redeem ourselves here. Hold on a second. Let's redeem ourselves here.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: Let's get the. Let's get the Mario name back in the world of. Of movies after this bombination bomb.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: So I will say it's 4.4.2 on IMDb, 30% on rotten tomatoes for audience score. This is a half star because we don't do zero stars. I'm sorry. There is like.
There's like. Again, I mentioned the first 20 minutes is like, okay, you set up the story well enough.
Acting still sucked in the entire movie.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: Special effects are awful. Horrible, Horrible practical effects.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: So many weird scenes that just like, don't do this.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: Yes, yes.
[00:50:03] Speaker B: Dennis Hopper, holding one of the ones, is holding his lapels in marching and then all of the. The Goombas behind him marching the same way. And I'm just like, why is it like this?
[00:50:15] Speaker A: So I gave it a half star. I can't. I can't because of, like, this. This is. This is one of the worst movies we've watched. As in this thing. We've watched some bad movies, but this is bottom three.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: I'm gonna give this one star off of. The fact, and this is kind of funny, is that it's so bad, but it also is so bad, like, claimed for being really bad, that I would have been willing to continue watching it. Like, I watched the whole movie. I wouldn't have just been like, nope, I'm done.
Like, there are movies we've watched that there's no way I would have finished mine. I have to watch it for the podcast.
I would have kept watching this. And because it's Mario, like, all right, so I'm gonna go one star off of basically the source material and the fact that everyone knows this movie sucks, I guess, as in, I don't know. Does that help?
[00:51:01] Speaker A: No, that works for me. And I'll tell you right now, I do have stars in my personal name.
[00:51:05] Speaker B: At that point in time, it was taking itself seriously on the website. We all know it sucks, so let's enjoy the fact that it sucks on the website.
[00:51:12] Speaker A: We do half star, one star. So if you already add ours together, it'd be 0.75 stars and that wouldn't work. But we're gonna go up to a one star solely because without it we wouldn't get this fantastic Bob Takic illustration on the front of my Bob Tacket
[00:51:25] Speaker B: for saving the Mario Brother movie by putting some sick art. Like even the logo of this movie is bad.
Like the, the like why is it like platinum looking or metal?
[00:51:38] Speaker A: It's so hard to see it here obviously because Bob covered it up on this VHS day. But super in here. But honestly, when you're looking at it on anything small, it's not a big poster. You could barely see the word super. So it looks like it just says the Mario Brothers movie. Which in my mind I would have been like. Would have been fine too. We should have just called it the Mario Bros. Movie. It would have been fine.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: And then like the, the logo slams up there like metal hitting. And all I could think of it was like, that's the way like Robocop has it. Which makes so much more sense. And that looks very RoboCop. Demolition man looked like that. It's like they were trying to fit this movie into those categories of like hyper violent noir movies. And why the hell did we do this with Mario?
[00:52:18] Speaker A: I love the marketing too. I don't know if you can see it, but this is Mario dressed in the, in the traditional.
[00:52:22] Speaker B: Only time he looks like Mario.
[00:52:24] Speaker A: She's being nice in like the petting of like Yoshi there. Like okay. And they're in the colors here too. It's like this is only for part of the movie, guys. Like this is the whole movie is not them in there.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: It's like five minutes of it if that.
[00:52:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but let's put that here. There you go. So Bob, you can find Bob on social media.
Yes, exactly. That wouldn't happen nowadays. Well, maybe, but Bob Tacky, I'm trying to promote here. Bob Tacky here. Paul. Shut up.
Bob Tackett. Get him. He's on social media. It's T K A T K A C I K Bob Takik. Find him online. I'll tag him in. Our our that's description to the podcast
[00:53:08] Speaker B: right now looking on this wall across to me, I have two Bob Tackic original pieces of the Shredder shredding on his skateboard and then Raph on his skateboard, see?
[00:53:19] Speaker A: Right. And I also have back here, which you can't see, but I've got it with it with Pennywise on it. I've got Spawn and I've got Jurassic park. And I'm looking at. When we see. I'm gonna see him again in this year in the spring. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to get another one done. So we gotta add to the collection here of these VHS tapes, redeeming some of them and then just adding cool to some other ones.
[00:53:38] Speaker B: Actually pretty fun to have Bob do special VHS variants to movies that sucked.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: Yes. Like, that's. That's great. I should find. I should find other ones better than
[00:53:45] Speaker B: the movie and honestly redeem the movie. Kind of like the Goomba a little more.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: Yeah. See, well, now. Now what I want is a Bob Takic adaptation of the film in comic book form with Bob drawing it. Can he do that just for us? Like, not sell it?
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Just like a weird Mario.
[00:54:05] Speaker A: Just one page is fine. Okay. Like a single page.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: Just as if the comic existed.
As if this was the original artwork from the printed book.
[00:54:13] Speaker A: Or a cover. We can just do a cover for it. Like a cool. Like, is there a blank cover? We can have him do it as an adaptation to it. But. Yeah. Paul Eaton's of Galactic Comics and collectibles@g Galactic ComicsinCollectibles.com 499 Hammond street now. Sweet.
What's sweet?
[00:54:28] Speaker B: I guess next to Angelo, big Galactic comic sign on it.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
So. But yeah. Thanks again, Paul, for another horrible movie review.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that sucked. That was a bad movie.
[00:54:38] Speaker A: Well, the review was great. The movie was.
[00:54:39] Speaker B: The review was great. The movie sucked.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
We'll talk soon, though, buddy. I appreciate.
