[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles at collective comics and collectibles.com this episode is the Lawrence Brothers. You know, you might know them as Joey, Andrew and Matt, but together they're the Lawrence Brothers. You also may know them from Mrs. Doubtfire, Recess, Blossom, Oliver and company, or the show Brotherly Love. But more recently, they took a swing and a shot at writing a graphic novel called the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency.
It's available right now from Z2 Comics. So check your local bookstore or your local comic book shop for that or buy it
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Welcome to the podcast, guys. How are you all today?
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Good.
How's it going?
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Good, good, good. I love how this is like a three way conversation, but there's two people in one spot. It's nice. It's a little like spreading out here.
[00:01:28] Speaker C: Exactly. It's a two in one. It's a two in one. That's what we always call it.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Third one for free. That's how that works normally.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: That's what I've heard. I mean, that's what, you know, as we were talking, you know, Joey and I were talking a little bit. I'm one of three boys and so I'm always the, you know, there's someone who tags along or someone who takes place of the charge or whatever, so on and so forth. So I know what it's like. I know what it's like. But yeah, go ahead. He's the middle, I'm the middle. I'm the middle child.
[00:01:54] Speaker D: Hey, dude.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: See, but I, but I said in the middle child, but I was telling Joey that I'm actually the one that like is kind of like takes the place of the older child because the two other ones need some help from me. You know, I'm the one that's successful and they're not.
[00:02:08] Speaker C: No.
[00:02:08] Speaker D: Yeah, you're speaking. Preaching to the choir, man.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: No, it's funny, it's. There's always one.
[00:02:15] Speaker D: One.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: One person needs to take charge, you know, and that happened to be me. And, you know, I still. What I was thinking about, it was getting ready to do this conversation is that I don't know if I'd be able to have a conversation and hang out with my brothers as much as you guys do. So how do you guys do it?
[00:02:30] Speaker D: You know, we stumble through it at times.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: And it only really works when the money's right. No, I'm just kidding. I'm totally.
[00:02:41] Speaker D: We make it work. If there's no money, we hate each other.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: I'm just kidding. We love each other, we spend a lot of time. We do spend a lot of time together. Yeah, but it's okay.
[00:02:48] Speaker D: We do.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Hey, you have to. I mean, at this point now, people just kind of assume you guys are the same, you're all together, one package nowadays, aren't you?
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Whenever we're not together, people are always asking where the other one is. Where we. It's. It's hard to explain that we are our own individuals sometimes.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: And you guys have grown up obviously on TV and movies, things like that, but now you guys are comic book writers. Is that, I mean, that crazy thought to be there now you think that you've gone this far, now you've accumulated things to the point now you're comic book writers.
[00:03:17] Speaker C: We're doing so many weird, different things.
You know, I feel like after Covid, like sort of the whole world sort of went upside down and you just had to be very nimble and sort of open minded to a lot of different avenues, you know? You know, there's. There's always a plus and minus to everything like that, especially when you've been doing this as long as, you know, we have and, you know, you're four decades into something and then have to make just sort of like drastic moves to sort of open yourself up to new things that are unknown, but that, you know, you know that maybe you could do it. Just. You haven't ever tried it, Right? So this is one of those things. The podcast that we launched is one of those things, you know, and this book is one of those things where we were actually talking about doing something like this for a very long time, and then everything just sort of aligned. You know, we got together with a cool team and it just kind of came into fruition but we've always been fans of the Hardy Boys and always been fans of Scooby Doo. And, you know, by the way, happy. I don't know when this will air, but happy birthday to Scooby Doo today.
Scooby Boo. Scooby Doo's birthday, right?
[00:04:14] Speaker D: September, baby. Scooby, Scooby Booby baby.
[00:04:19] Speaker C: Yep, yep. So drinking.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: I'm just kidding.
[00:04:22] Speaker C: You know, And. And when we imagine this, we thought, well, how can we take, like, Scooby Doo and the Hardy Boys and sort of combine it and then put a little nostalgia in there and then you come up with this, you know, this, this. This goofy madness, you know, And I love it.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: But, you know, it's funny because, like, you see these people trying different things nowadays in comics, which I love. I love. There's these what used to be gatekeepers to two comics saying, oh, it's to say comics are for this people. And only these people could write these or do these nowadays. It's so cool to see an eclectic group of people being like, hey, let's try some comics. Let's do a comics. And sometimes the story makes the most sense in comics. And I feel like that with this book, it did.
[00:04:58] Speaker C: I think you're absolutely right about that.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:01] Speaker D: It's interesting how things have changed, right? Like, even back in our day, when you used to do television, you were a TV actor and you couldn't do film, or if you were a musician, you couldn't do acting. It was like there were really. Were. There were those gatekeepers before. And I feel like everything's just decentralized now, and everything's kind of like, you know, it's. Which is really cool, right? That's one of the cool aspects of where we are when it comes to social media and all these different platforms is that now everything is kind of open to everybody and the gatekeepers have fallen, which is cool.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: It's funny.
Go ahead. No, go ahead.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: It's. To me, it's. It was like, these people. Like, I've had these conversations that my. I have a book club that reads graphic novels. And one of the things we talked about was, like, this one person was like, oh, they shouldn't be getting into comics.
And then I thought to myself, like, if one person reads a comic book because the Lawrence brothers wrote a comic book, it's a success, in my opinion. Obviously, you want way more people to read it, but in my mind is like, if you got one person who maybe have never picked up a comic book before to read a comic because of this, this graphic novel, I think it's a success, and that's my whole point. However, you can get someone to pick up a comic book for the first time or maybe get back into comics or whatever, to me is a huge thing. It's the same thing. I would go the opposite side of things. If someone is writing comics and they end up writing a TV show and someone watches a TV show for the first time, it's just if you get one person to read it, I love it.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: So we feel the exact same man perspective. It's funny how things start and where they end up. This actually always originally was intended to be an adult romance novel, but then it has, it has progressed into it.
[00:06:37] Speaker D: Danielle Steele.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: That's kind of what we were going. But now we, you know, toned it down a little bit into the, the graphic novel.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: We actually, in all, in all, transparency, we had imagined it when we first started thinking about it as like an animated series, to be honest.
And then, and then this sort of came first and probably was the right step and. But an animated series is something that we, that we hopefully will be able to do with this. If, you know, if the, if the, if the reception is, you know, you know, what we hope it will be and people like it, there's an opportunity for it. I think an animated series be kind of cool, you know, and talk about sort of, you know, expanding, you know, sort of the landscape. It'd be so much fun because the adventures that these, that these three idiots can go on, you know, would be really cool.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: You know, you've been working on this, I mean, as the solicitation says, for 15 years, technically.
What point did you guys know that this was actually going to be able to happen?
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Probably when we teamed up with the Berkowitz Bros. And Brian is really kind of when it.
The wheels kind of hit the track and it picked up steam.
[00:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I think the Berkowitz brothers really sort of, you know, brought some enthusiasm, you know, to this idea that we had sort of been mulling in our minds for, you know, like 10 years, you know, and then, and then, you know, we partnered up with Z2 and it just sort of. It just sort of was the team that, that all was inspired to do it. So that gave us the impetus to, you know, to do it. You know, that's, that's, that's. It gave us a little win.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
Everything and it just, it seemed like the right time.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Do you guys, have you guys known the Berkowitz brothers for a while or is this. Something that came because of this.
[00:08:17] Speaker C: Not. Not a long time. I mean, we knew them during this process, so maybe a couple. Couple years now.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: You know, we went to Com Con together, so now we're basically brothers.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Well, you're family now. Now they're actually
[00:08:32] Speaker C: in their part. Lawrence. It's. It's.
Yeah, it's Berkowitz. It's Berkowitz.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: I mean, it's. It's cool to see that. And in this sense, like, when you were making a TV show or a movie or so on and so forth, you have so many different people you have to answer to. When you're reading a comic book like this. Like, obviously you have people editor or someone who has to work with you, but, like, this is you. Like, this is all you. You live and die with this sword of what you guys put into this comic book. And was that fun? Was that like a creativeness? I mean, I guess it's somewhat. With your podcast and things like that, where you get. It's up to you guys, but, like, this story is you. It was that fun to do.
[00:09:07] Speaker D: It was. It was fun.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:09] Speaker D: Definitely had the freedom to create that,
[00:09:11] Speaker C: you know, sort of.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah.
[00:09:15] Speaker C: I mean, I get to have unabridged in a way. It's kind of. Kind of cool, you know?
[00:09:19] Speaker D: Yeah, I like it. I mean, I got to have, like, my chameleon on my shoulder most of the time and that out.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: No, I'm just kidding.
[00:09:27] Speaker D: Hey, and, you know, it's just. Yeah, it's. It's super fun. You're right, man.
[00:09:31] Speaker C: There's no. There's no.
[00:09:32] Speaker D: You know, we would throw out these zany ideas, and it wasn't like, oh, no, no, that's not gonna pass qc. You know, just like, normally what you get. And that's what we love about the format, and that's what we. That's what always drew. You know, why we were. Have been thinking about this for such a long time is that we would always have these crazy ideas that we would love to put the three of us through, but in any other format, it was next to impossible, like you're saying, to get any sort of clearance from a network or from a series of, you know, a writer's room. It was like, you know, so, yeah, it's direct from us to you, our crazy brains to you.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: It's funny too, because, like, I feel like you actually will get traction on this potentially as an animated series, because so many different companies want the adaptation. Like, they'd rather have the adaptation than the. Than the than the original because you already have a built in audience. All the people who kick back your Kickstarter or are going to buy this on publication, like, this is a built in audience that they can just tap into. So I mean, obviously you guys have your following as it is. I've seen the lines at the conventions. People want to come see you. But like an adaptation, adaptation of this is actually probably more important to studios than the original.
[00:10:39] Speaker D: It's true.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it'll help. You're right, it'll help. If we went in and just pitched it softly as an animated series on its own, it probably wouldn't have as much relevancy or opportunity as it will have now. For sure, we're excited about that. And honestly, it's really good. I got to tell you, I'm a big comic guy my whole life and I'm proud of it.
[00:10:58] Speaker D: Yeah, the artwork's great. We were really happy with that. Sean Von Goren and a couple other artists to help us finish it. It's just, we love, we love the look of it, man. I mean, just look at that. Like it's.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Don't joke too much.
[00:11:08] Speaker D: Like the look of it is so
[00:11:10] Speaker A: you spoiled the whole thing. No kidding. But it's true. I mean, it's a beautiful book. And the funny thing is, is like, so, so Ben said, Ben Bergwood sent this over to me and said, hey, you know, we got this comic book coming out and so on and so forth. And then Ben and Max have been on the podcast before. Sean Van Garman's actually been on the podcast before too. He was promoting the pedestrian with our buddy Joey Esposito. But yeah, so when he sent it over, I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. I will be honest with you. I was skeptical because I'm like, all I could picture was that it was going to be such a, like a, like a true to life Lawrence brothers story that I was like, in my mind, all I could picture was like, oh, you guys are going to be so vain that you're just going to write about yourselves in comic books. This is amazing. And then when I got it and I read it and I was like, wait, this is a lot of like poking fun at yourself, a lot of like not taking yourself too seriously. There's this humor to it, but there's this seriousness. It was just this, I don't know, this combination of all of those things that just made me go, this was so much fun to read. And I feel like in the comics that are out there nowadays, there's a little bit of a gap between this is a really well done comic book and this is a really well done comic book. And it's fun. Like, it was a good experience. And I think that's what I had when I read the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency. Was that, like, it was just a fun experience to read too.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Honestly, every time you say it makes me laugh.
[00:12:27] Speaker D: That's awesome to hear.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Every time somebody says lars Brothers Detective Agency, I'm like, greatest title.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: What's going on right now? Yes.
[00:12:34] Speaker C: No, I'm really happy to hear you say that. I feel like that's the balance that we were going for. Right? Because we don't take ourselves serious. Seriously. I mean, you know, the fact we all get to do this all these years in. I mean, look, we've. We've been fighting the good fight, ups and downs, struggles, but we're still here doing it. We feel blessed to be able to do that, but we never take ourselves seriously. You can't do that. You know, I feel like that's. That's the demise of a creator when they. When they truly take themselves seriously, you know, because we're all having fun and creating and we just hope people like it. That's really it. And we do make fun of ourselves. I feel like that is. We share that in common. Where that, like the bros and I, we all love those comics and we love the adaptations. We love them in film when they don't take themselves too seriously as well. I feel like when Marvel was in its sweet spot and it started with, you know, the first Batman, I love the balance of it took itself seriously when it needed to. There were stakes, but it also poked fun at the art form and the medium and yet at the same time allowed you to have fun. That first Batman was so brilliantly played by Tim Burton and the way he, he crafted that because Nicholson did have fun. You had fun watching it. The Prince music, it was very comic book inspired. It didn't take itself too seriously. But when it had to be real and the stakes had to feel like, oh, shit, like it was there, you know, And Marvel in its prime, Jon Favreau with Iron man also did that. Marvel in its prime did that. And I feel like the reason why it's been struggling of late, and I know this new Spider man is great, it's a bounce back, but I feel like they also didn't take themselves.
It was serious when it had to be, but there was a very self deprecation about it that allowed you to, like you said, enjoy it, like, at the end of the day, they're comics. Like, you know, like, let's enjoy it a little bit. It's supposed to be escapism. That's what it's supposed to be.
[00:14:23] Speaker D: You know, on any. On any good, you know, comedy that I've ever been a part of. If you're not enjoying the process yourself, chances are the audience is also not going to enjoy it, you know, or feel the comedy or feel the love. So, you know, we just tried to enjoy ourselves through this and really, like you said, just be whimsical, poke fun at ourselves and have fun and not take ourselves too seriously because that's what we wanted the audience to feel as well.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: I mean, you hear it here first. Joey Lawrence says that the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency is equal to 2008 Spider Iron man movie.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: Right?
[00:14:55] Speaker A: You heard it here first. It's.
[00:14:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Make sure that.
[00:14:58] Speaker C: That's the heading. Make sure that's the heading. Because I know that's what I said. It's exactly what I said. Word for word, you called it.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: No, I understand, because I've said that to you all the time. And that's one of the things why Marvel was so successful with those movies over that span, juxtaposing to dc, where DC was like, everything was just so dark and serious and so on. Whereas Marvel there was like. I mean, I've always compared to, like someone farts at a funeral, like, the idea that it's like it happens. Like, it's just like people giggle and it's like it's a serious moment, but there can be humor in it. And I think that's where I think that this is a serious story. There's a serious story to be told here, and then there's funny moments in it. And I think that's what I think the biggest part is. And I agree with you, Juliette, it is that. That same idea that it's a serious story with some comedy in it. And that's what this is. So you had some fun with it.
[00:15:45] Speaker D: Look at it this way, too. Like, even as of late, when you see how young stars who started in the entertainment industry early in their career, in their lives, like young, a lot of them do wind up, you know, having a lot of trouble later in life. Look at, unfortunately, you know, Hayden Pentary and what's happened as of late. So there is a serious core to this, you know, looking for lost 90 stars is. Is. Is the joke. But really what it is is, you know, these. These people who started really young and then it's not that they're lost, as in where are we trying to find them? But they lost their careers and lost their way. That's the metaphor underneath the book. Right. So we just are trying to, you know, have fun with it, but they're. You're right. There is a serious core to it.
[00:16:30] Speaker C: I. Yeah, I've said this before, but my favorite. What really changed the whole world for me in terms of comic books, because I was always like a fan, but not like a super f. When I. When I went to see Batman 89. And it's literally, I think, my favorite scene in the whole movie, even though I have several of them, so it's hard to tell. But when they're. When he's having dinner with Vicki Vale that first night and they're at that huge table and you don't know it, they set it up where their shots are soloed out and when they pop out to the wide, because when he goes, how's the soup? And she goes, what? And he says, boom. They pop out. He goes, the soup. How is it?
[00:17:03] Speaker D: And she's like, it's crazy good, Glenn.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: So this is a beautiful room. He's like, oh, yeah, thank you.
You know, I've never actually been in this room.
[00:17:11] Speaker D: It's. It's great.
[00:17:12] Speaker C: Yeah, great as an audience member, as a 13 year old kid. I'm in there laughing my ass off at that scene and we're in the middle of a very serious moment. And I thought, okay, I freaking love this movie. You know, I feel like that, to me, is the pinnacle of how to do it.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: You know, that's like, if you set that scene up and tell someone, tell me what show or movie or whatever it's from, you'd think, oh, Family Guy or the Simpsons, some sort of comed animated show where like they're trying to make some sort of joke about how large this table is. But it ended up in Batman.
[00:17:42] Speaker C: Like, exactly, bro. It was brilliant. And I feel like that, to me is, you know, I won't digress too much why Michael Keaton is my favorite Batman.
[00:17:48] Speaker D: Because I feel like, you know, the,
[00:17:51] Speaker C: the most important part of Batman is actually Bruce Wayne. It's not the suit. Once you're in the suit, you're a cloaked figure that, you know, can do anything you need to do. But actually the, the plight of that character, rooting for that character, right? The, the, the. The emotional connection you have to that journey is because of what Bruce Wayne's going through, not Batman. And I feel like that's Been the miss for me in a lot of other iterations. Even though I've enjoyed the films, I don't feel as connected to Bruce Wayne as I did in that first one.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: It's true.
[00:18:22] Speaker D: I mean, you got the intensity right with obviously, the. The Nolan series, because no one's like the God of intensity, you know, And. But you're right, Joe. And even as good as, oh, my God, Christian Bale is. You're right, Joe. I don't. I didn't feel for Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne the same way that I felt from Michael Keaton's Bruce.
[00:18:42] Speaker C: And I don't feel that way in Matt. In Matt Reeves is the Batman either. I. I like. Again, well done movie. Great movie. Yeah, it was well done. It looked great. It felt great. But I gotta be honest with you, man. Like, I didn't feel.
I didn't feel anything for that character. Like, I. I was more just there as a witness to see a story. I was not there in the journey, invested in what happens in that story.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: You know, I like, dude, I do.
[00:19:08] Speaker D: No, he's not saying he didn't like it.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: I think Robert Pattinson's a really good actor.
[00:19:11] Speaker D: Robin Patterson's an amazing actor. We're not saying that. We're saying that this. I know, I know. You guys said the style of filmmaker. The style of filmmaking doesn't allow Robert to have those.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: I love the New York.
I love it. I do. I think.
[00:19:26] Speaker D: Exactly.
[00:19:27] Speaker C: That's. That's exactly right, Matt. That's exactly right. Yeah. And, you know, Andy's always worried about you creating enemies. You know, he's the youngest. He's an idiot, but.
I know, I know.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: It looks so good.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: He's like, I don't. I don't want an opportunity to miss out on being in a movie later on for real. So I can't piss him off.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: It's true. The cinematographer quit dune3 to go do it.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: I mean, it's funny how you say that, because I, I. A couple years ago, we reviewed the 1994 unreleased Fantastic Four movie on this podcast, My Body, My Body. And I. It was fantastic. But I didn't tell my buddy who was on the podcast reviewing with me, that Alex Hyde, why, who played Mr. Fantastic in that movie, was my next guest. So my buddy just shit all over the movie. And it's like, he's like, afterwards, it's like, dude, you could have at least give me a heads up. The guy was going to be on your podcast. I'm like, no, I wanted to Learn unfiltered. I wanted a real, you know, experience here. I didn't want you to be like, you know, whatever. So, yeah, it's funny, I do sometimes tiptoe around certain creators. What I'm talking about, that is like, maybe they'll be on the podcast later.
Other creators, where I'm like, I know they're never going to be on the podcast. I'm like, I could talk freely about them.
[00:20:32] Speaker C: I just think, yeah, no, and like I said, I prefaced it. The filmmaking is top notch. It's a great. It's a great film. It's well done. I enjoyed it. But did I feel connected to Robert's Bruce Wayne? No, I didn't feel it.
[00:20:45] Speaker D: No, I didn't.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:20:46] Speaker C: Yeah, did not. Did not.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: He.
[00:20:49] Speaker C: I felt the pain on his face, but I didn't feel it like when, when Michael Keaton had that moment and that's those flashbacks of his youth and. And then sitting there with Alfred and just even staring at those screens, you know, like that. You just feel something for this end. The fact that he was. He was masking it with a little self deprecation. That's. That's how you feel emotion for somebody when they can make fun of themselves. You're like, oh, that guy's hurting. That guy's hurting. He's deflecting with comedy. Right? That's a classic trope. So to me, I would love if they take some chances in modern film and put a little of that back into these comic books, you know, you know, adaptations.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Personally, Keaton's Batman didn't have enough bat nipple, though, so that's okay. So we didn't have enough bad nipple on that. The only one.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Joel Schumacher came on board and he redesigned and added the nipples.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Nipples. Oh, great. It's amazing. But this is. I love. This is the world we live in. They can have an actual conversation with people being like, we're talking about which was the best Batman and bat nipples and large tables and comedy and stuff like that. It's. It's. Yeah, it's. It's hilarious. But I mean, we said it's a serious.
The core of this is that kind of a serious story that actually has this comedy in this levity to it. And, and so you guys are yourselves in the, in the comic book. You're playing yourselves in the comic book. How exaggerated are these versions of yourselves?
Very exaggerated. Nothing at all. There's no.
[00:22:10] Speaker D: I mean, there's like the looseness of like, I'm. I've got you know, crazy reptiles all over me all the time. And then, you know, there's Andy. You want to tell about how you're loose. Stuff that says, actually, I'm pretty on key.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: I'm pretty on point.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: I'm pretty on point. You're actually. It's actually like a word for word. That's you, right?
[00:22:27] Speaker D: It's autobiography. I feel like.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: I feel like, like fitness and health, you know, is important to me. Obviously, we dramatize it in this. And he's obsessed, you know, so, yeah, I mean, you take. You take the root of. Of. Of something that we innately have, and then you expand upon that and, you know, you. You have some creative fun, you know.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: Well, it's, It's. It's. It's very common. You see that anyway in, like, animated shows or movies where actor looks a lot like the person speaking and that kind of thing where like, takes from the character but obviously isn't that character. And you talk like Steve Levine, one of the early artists on Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He's always been like, oh, Michelangelo. Like Kevin Eastman and Peter Lair created him to look like or be like me. And so there's like this pull from things, but obviously it would be very, very. Like I said, I'm glad it isn't your actual characters in real life in comic book form, because I feel like they might be a little bit less interesting to me to read, you know?
[00:23:18] Speaker D: You know, I got. I got a little Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle lore that I've never told before, but I was a huge reptiles. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that was my. That was everything for me, right. I was, you know, maybe 11 or 12 when I discovered it. And I was doing a TV movie with an actually, and the director was just hired to do the sequel to the first movie. And he was talking about how he didn't know how to open the movie. And I was like, honestly, you gotta have Shredder's hand come out of the trash. And he used that exact sequence for the opening of the sequel. There you go. That was my little Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: It's so funny. I also ran into the filmmaker of the second movie and I suggested that he use Vanilla Ice. And he did.
And to this day, he thanks me for that performance.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: So.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: So. So, you guys, who would be the best detective out of you three?
[00:24:21] Speaker D: Probably Andy.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: You think so?
[00:24:23] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. He's.
He likes weapons and another life.
[00:24:27] Speaker B: I was a detective.
[00:24:28] Speaker D: Yeah, he likes all that stuff the most. He's fast.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: I watched a lot of Murder She Wrote growing up.
[00:24:33] Speaker D: Yeah, very. He falls asleep to a lot of true crime murder mysteries. You hear a lot of screaming coming from his room as he sounds very odd. But, yeah, he finds comfort in murder and mayhem.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: I mean, I, I, conversely, would it. Who would be killed first in a mystery, Joe? Yeah, you think so?
I think it's just your brother's teaming up on you, Joe. I don't think it's that. I don't think there's any actual basis to this. I think they just want to pick on you. I don't think it has anything to it.
[00:25:04] Speaker C: You're a very wise man, Justin. And you know what? You know what, man? I don't ever play down. So I'm just gonna keep it up here and just let them cackle, and we'll just.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: You know, you guys mentioned it's nostalgia too, though, right? I mean, this is not just about you guys, too. There's other characters that are. That make appearances in this. In this comic book, in this graphic novel, and I'm guessing if you get to do more that you hopefully will be able to do the similar thing where you're adding some extra characters in there and so on and so forth. Was that something that's part of, like, the original, like, over the 15 years of trying to, like, come up with this idea that you wanted to put other people that you were, you know, acquaintances with in this story?
[00:25:37] Speaker B: For sure. We are always. We always love our kindred spirits and our friends and. And family and stuff. That's always been a part of our roots and. Yeah, absolutely. And that. That to expand on the world and the universe of the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency is definitely something we would love to explore.
[00:25:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it definitely made sense for this one. And, you know, it.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: It does.
[00:25:56] Speaker D: If, hey, if we're able to expand in that way, I mean, we'd love it. To take it, you know, outside of even our realm of. Sure.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:03] Speaker D: You know, actors and things.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Well, I would like to go to Jennifer Aniston.
[00:26:07] Speaker D: They're all in the sequel.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: I was gonna say, like, how dangerous could this group Texas text message be about who. Who you're gonna kill off or who you're gonna have me missing.
[00:26:15] Speaker D: True.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: It's true.
[00:26:18] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, I, I always. I. We always talked about how I. I come back as a. As like a spiritual.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Yep. And Haunt and Gary Omens are Bosley.
[00:26:27] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: But it's true. I mean, a lot of us, if you think about what you guys have been in as actors over the years, for a lot of us I was born in 86, so, like, this is, like, you guys are my childhood as well. So, like, seeing these things and see. So it's for those people, for sure. Like, you read this comic, you're like, okay, those people who grew up watching Mrs. Doubtfire and recess, you know, Oliver and company and Blossom, all these. You know, like, you watch all these things, and you definitely. That's for you guys. However, I feel like you guys toed that line pretty well, that if you've never seen anything the Lawrence brothers are in, you still could have fun reading this comic book. Was that important?
[00:27:05] Speaker D: That's a great question, man.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: And I really appreciate you saying that.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:08] Speaker D: We. We didn't want to limit ourselves, you know, to just a specific targeted audience. We would love. Dude, I would love nothing more than to have kids, like, enjoy this, you know, and really get into it, you know, that'd be. That'd be so cool. So if we can open ourselves up to another generation.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: Sick.
[00:27:24] Speaker D: We'd love it.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And, I mean, I think I've heard it. I've read it online. Someone said something somewhere about being like, an adult Scooby Doo to, like, there isn't such thing as, like, a Scooby Doo group of people who do Scooby Doo things as adults.
This is awesome. So I would love to see this as something I would love. I would tune in every. I feel like it's like a great Adult Swim thing where it's like a kids show, but, like, adult, like.
[00:27:44] Speaker C: Well, that's exactly. That's exactly. We thought. Listen, it was really important us to have a van. That's why the van's on the book.
We have the Scooby Doo van, man. We got it. You know, it's kind of like.
It's the A Team Scooby Doo, like, mashup, you know, scooby doo colors, 18 model. It's actually like, an 83. It really is an 83.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: I want this to actually be part of the lore that it's actually the A team's old van. That's actually their old man. Brilliant.
[00:28:10] Speaker C: Brilliant. We got off the back lot. We got off the back lot.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: It was the extra one. You look at the light. You look at the lighting just perfectly. You can actually see the word 18 written on it over, like.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:20] Speaker D: We couldn't see fully.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: Take it out and just kind of
[00:28:22] Speaker C: stick it over it.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Yeah, that's funny. The ages in there.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
For the future. Yeah. You could be like, oh, this is the 18. Or it's not it's like. Or it's like similar, but it's not the same. Like on that episode of Seinfeld when George has John Void's car, but it's not the John Boy. He always said you could be like, it's the A team, but it's like a team pest control or something like that. But you tell everybody it's the A team.
[00:28:42] Speaker C: Yeah, we thought it was. It was a mock up. This guy had a plumbing service and they called it the A team. It was a play on the show. We thought it was the actual van. We paid big money for it. But it's okay.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: I see Matt writing down the. Writing this down for future.
[00:28:56] Speaker C: Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's taking notes.
[00:28:59] Speaker D: Bros write this down.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Yes.
Do you guys work together? You work separately. So is it nice to work? Is the creativeness together?
Other fights? Are there arguments? Are there. Are there on this store? Something like this, obviously on the podcast or whatever. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about, like, creating this. Was there, like, something that one person wanted to put in the book that didn't make it? Or there's arguments about doing things. I mean, is there this friendly argument behind making these things?
[00:29:23] Speaker B: It's odd. Creatively. We normally are all on the same page and see eye to eye, but. But just the natural dynamics of being brothers feeds into. Of course, like, we'll get into an argument about something completely irrelevant. That's got nothing to do with the book in front of everybody. Yeah, that's making the book with us. And usually it's Matt and Joe will just start yelling at each other because they're closer in age. They're a little more aggressive. They'll just start yelling at each other and people will get really uncomfortable. I think it's hysterical.
But we always. We're very lucky because we always, you know, we always end with hugs and
[00:29:54] Speaker C: not really the yellow
[00:29:57] Speaker B: cry a lot of each other's arms.
[00:29:59] Speaker D: Yeah, we. Yeah, Yeah.
[00:30:01] Speaker C: I think I don't yell too much.
[00:30:03] Speaker D: I think that's not true. Last time we got into an argument, Joe, was you all yelling. But I think what it is is that. I think what it is that gets me. That makes me feel okay about it is I hear this a lot with brother teams. Like, I heard that the Duffer brothers would constantly get into massive arguments on Stranger Things.
And I think what. What actually is the cool thing about it is that about being brothers and family is that you are given a space to go that far in every aspect, which always which has the ability to turn out the best result, because if you're able to scream at each other, that means you're able to throw out the craziest ideas because there's a layer of protection that, yeah, no matter what, you're still gonna have to face each other the next day because you are brothers. So you can't just split up and go the other. Other directions. Like, you can go as far as you want to go and still have a support system at the end of the day. And I think that's one of the really crucial things about how brothers are successful as artistic teams. And I think that's why they're very successful in music. They're very successful as directors and as writers.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: I don't even know.
[00:31:11] Speaker D: Talk about Nolan. People don't know this a lot. Nolan's brother and him, they write everything together.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Isn't his brother, like, a hitman?
[00:31:19] Speaker D: No, Nolan. His brother is a writer. No, no, his.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: Okay, this might be an Instagram, like, complete bs, But I swear to God, his brother. Again, I read this on Instagram.
I read that his brother was a hitman and his code name was Oppenheimer.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: No, that's Christopher. Nolan's oldest brother, Matthew, was accused of
[00:31:40] Speaker B: being a hitman dude, and his code name was Oppenheimer. I'm not making this up.
[00:31:45] Speaker A: I know he's not. And this is 2009. There was an FBI investigation for it.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: Thank you very much. Thank you.
[00:31:51] Speaker D: Well, either way, I don't. I don't know if it's that if he.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Well, we will expose him.
[00:31:56] Speaker C: I'm glad, you guys.
[00:31:56] Speaker D: I don't know what the deal is with that, but his brother also writes everything that Nolan does or a lot of it with him. Well, and also has his own.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: You don't really. He has a.
[00:32:05] Speaker D: He just doesn't come out very publicly. Maybe because he's also a hitman. Maybe that's the reason why. I mean, he's a very successful guy in the entertainment industry. Very. You just don't hear him.
[00:32:16] Speaker C: Like.
[00:32:16] Speaker D: Like his brother. No. Like Chris, you know, Is that how
[00:32:19] Speaker A: you guys want your relationship to be? Is that one person is, like the public person and you don't hear about the other ones? I'll.
[00:32:23] Speaker D: I'll take the back. I'll take the. Behind the scenes. I don't mind being and slash writer creator.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: The only hit I put out. The only hit I put out are
[00:32:33] Speaker B: on more of, like.
It's more of like the Randy Quaid.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. Is he in the next Next book, Next graphic novel. Randy Quaid's.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: Randy is my evil twin name. I've been known to turn into Randy sometimes.
[00:32:51] Speaker D: Wait, didn't Randy just go on a rant about. About Anne Hathaway?
[00:32:55] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. Yeah. It's not surprising if he did. But no, it was hot.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: Well, she's pregnant, so she deserves to have a little bit of heat. Yeah.
Goes after a pregnant woman.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: Not everybody, I tell you that much. But no, the.
Back to the. The story here. Back to our comic book here and get it back on track here. But no. So when you guys are filming something, when you're in a movie or in a TV show, it's you. You look in the mirror in the morning, it's you. You see it. It's just how they maybe edit it or how the lighting is or anything like that. When you see the final product. What was it like seeing you guys drawn in comic book form, like on a panel? I've been like, I gotta tell you.
[00:33:30] Speaker C: So we had a couple of Andy's versions were beautiful.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: I don't.
You know, I think Sean had a baby in the middle of making this. So we had some help from Dario and some of the original, like, just randomly every once in a while. My character looked like Jafar for some reason. I don't know why that happened, but I was like, yo, this is not cool. I'm like, no, I'm not like, you know, let's have fun with it. There's no narcissism here. But this doesn't even look like me to the point of now. My contact information in both of my brother's phones. It's true. Are these, like, weird aberra. Aberrations of what I was supposed to look like.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: They.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: Since they fixed it, it looks great now. But there was a beat where I was like, yo, this is not gonna work for me. Out of nowhere, I look. I look like. You know what I look like? I look like Sex Machine from. From Dusk till Dawn. The Quentin Tarantino.
This is not me. I'm like, this doesn't look like.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: I love that because I feel like this is like subliminal, like, in the mind. It's like when I had my first child. I watched the Spawn animated show on HBO while I was feeding him in the middle of the night. Like, I'd wake up at 3 o' clock in the morning, I'd stick the bottle in his mouth. I'd sit on the couch in the living room and I watch it. And so I could picture is like Sean having a Baby. And, like, feet, like the watching Jafar.
And somehow, like, subconsciously, like, putting him in, like, drawing.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: I don't know if it was. I don't know if it was Sean, if it was dairy. I don't know who did it, but I was like, this is not gonna work.
[00:34:52] Speaker C: My screen. My. My. My picture for Andy's contact. No joke. I mean, Andy is a date ringer for Sean. You. The evil warrior from Mulan.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: He literally.
[00:35:03] Speaker C: We know when he's standing at the top of that mountain, he's like, we must crush them. It is literally. I'm like, oh, my God, it's Sean.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: You.
[00:35:09] Speaker C: But it's not. It's Andy.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. There was. That was the only. It was. And then, like, every once in a while, there was like, an off one of Matt or Joe. And I mean, only like, a handful, though, out of all the. Out of all the slides and slugs. I mean, there's only such a. Fantastic. Yeah, they really did, like, one or two times. I think they might have been drinking a little bit or something.
[00:35:26] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: No, no, it's true. It's one of those things that, like, when they create Iron man now in comic books, they use a character that looks kind of like Robert Downey Jr. But isn't Robert Downey? Like, I mean, they don't draw Robert Downey, so you don't have to be exact. You could be like, oh, yeah. You get the hint that the character on TV kind of matches the. The character is in your book. But, like, for you guys, like, it has to be like. It can't just be, like, this really obscure looking picture of you because then it's. You lose some of the. You lose some of the oomph behind why this book will work if it doesn't actually look like you.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: So there was a couple real off. Off.
[00:35:56] Speaker D: There was a couple off slides of Andy that we fixed, and then there was one off slide of my chameleon, which turned into an iguana midstream. And I was like, yo, for the reptile people out there, we have to be very specific. Chameleon, iguana, iguana, chameleon. Two separate species.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: I'm a graphic artist and artist, and I don't think I could ever do sequential art like this. I don't think I could ever draw a comic book because, like, drawing the same thing over and over again, in my sense, I get to the end of the graphic novel and be like, oh, yeah, was it a monkey or was it a chameleon? Was it like, A lizard. And I just feel like I do. I could do covers, and I do. I do beer can art is what my main job is. I do design beer cans, but so I could do that single image and be done with it. And there you go. I can make variations of it, like make a poster or a sticker or whatever, but, like, I don't think I could ever draw, like, the same beer can in, like, six different panels across.
[00:36:42] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a lot, dude.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: You know, trying to. The different emotions and different expressions and so on and so forth. And like, you said that through line consistency, which was important to us. It was. It was a challenge. But they did an amazing job, and they're both great artists. Sean is. Is awesome. He's such a cool dude, and he's so talented. So it was really. I'm a big Pedestrian fan. It was a pleasure working with everybody.
[00:37:04] Speaker D: This really was.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: And Sean will. Will pitch books like, no tomorrow. Like, Sean is like a. If you have him on your book, he's gonna promote that thing for you till the day he dies. Because I didn't. I remember when pedestrian was. When pedestrian was out, I'm like. All I could see was just Sean, like, walking across crosswalks and taking pictures. And I'm like, jesus, man. I get it. The pedestrians coming out.
But it's. It's. It's funny. It's fun to see this. It's cool. Now you guys, like I said, now you're living libraries, hopefully, and things like that, where people can, like, actually see this and read this story and learn a little bit about it. But, like, it was on Kickstarter and you. Successful campaign on Kickstarter, but now it's actually, like, so, like, fine. I say finite people. A number of people were able to read or see it or do something with it, but now, like, a bunch of people have access to it now, which is really cool. So are you excited to see maybe, like, another wave of people excited for this and seeing this out there? You guys are doing promotions for. I mean, I guess you go online and read about it. You guys have been talking about this for. For over a year now. But, like, is it. Is it exciting to see now? Like, on the shelves at bookstores? Like, go to Barnes and Noble. You'll be able to hopefully see.
[00:38:04] Speaker D: That's so cool. Are you kidding?
[00:38:05] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:38:06] Speaker D: I mean, that's like the ultimate. I don't know.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: That's.
[00:38:09] Speaker D: That's. It's the ultimate goal, I think, to. To be able to. Yeah. For people to read it Just to see it out there.
[00:38:15] Speaker C: The next step is New York best Times selling list.
We're New York Times bestselling authors.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Okay, now, how crazy that would be. Like, you talk about the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency is the book that made you guys New York Times. That would be amazing. I would love that for you guys.
[00:38:29] Speaker C: Like, you watch, it's gonna happen. We know a hitman that knows a few people.
[00:38:35] Speaker D: That's called the callback.
[00:38:36] Speaker C: And you know.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Now, see you later, guys.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: Have a good one.
[00:38:40] Speaker C: Good night. Good night, everybody.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: I know the George Sustanza reference there where he, like, used to do that, where you'd say a thing in the middle of a meeting and then leave the meeting, go out on a high note. But no, it's true. It's like, to me, it's like.
[00:38:51] Speaker D: I don't know.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: I feel like you guys are fans of the medium, and so, like, seeing it on the shelf is like, another thing. I mean, obviously, you guys have had this. This ability as. As actors to see yourself on the big screen or on the small screen and have people, what, millions of people watch your stuff, but, like, this is another place for them to potentially see it and see your shelf. It's really cool, I think.
[00:39:12] Speaker D: Totally agree, man.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:14] Speaker D: Texting.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: It's Joe.
[00:39:15] Speaker D: You guys. Can you stop texting? No.
[00:39:17] Speaker C: Andy and I are sharing a moment. So you just talk. You do your little talky talk.
[00:39:21] Speaker D: Ruining the recording.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fine with me. I'm not going to make enemies here with any Lawrence brother, I tell you that.
You guys know Hitman? No.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: What happens?
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Well, actually, you didn't actually say you just knew a story of a hitman. You don't actually.
[00:39:35] Speaker C: Well, actually, Andy accused him of it, and I think it's beautiful. Whatever they do is amazing.
[00:39:40] Speaker B: The FBI, literally. This is not just me. But what is.
[00:39:45] Speaker D: What is. What is. What is the definition of a hitman? He goes. He's a. He's a killer for money.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: Money. Yeah, I guess he was accused, but obviously he wasn't convicted because he'd be in jail right now, I would think. Right. It'd also be a bigger story than just a secondary conversation on a podcast recording.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: I think he was arrested at one point and was on the lam for a while.
[00:40:06] Speaker D: I mean, I guess that would explain. Are you serious? Yes. I guess that would explain the Nolan's intensity. They're very intense dudes.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: Why has this not been a movie yet? Does. My question is, I would watch this film.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: I know. I think he tries to keep it A bit under wraps because he. I think his brother was running from the law for a while.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: Well, maybe you should make it into a graphic novel with his little bit of humor in it and things like that. I think I know some people. People. Finally, we're winding down here, but, like, so you work with the Berkowitz brothers. How much they scripted it, I'm guessing, which is a very common thing nowadays where you have someone that come up with a story and someone else scripts it, which is great. They're talented in that. In that vein as well. How much did they come back and say, hey, let's do this, or maybe you shouldn't do this, or I have an idea, too. Or was it. Was it a lot of. Just, like.
[00:40:48] Speaker C: It was very. It was very collaborative.
[00:40:49] Speaker D: Absolutely, ma'. Am.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely.
[00:40:51] Speaker D: I mean, look, especially on. On this one, because, you know, we were all coming into it on our side. It was like, this is our first go at it. So, you know, we wanted to take advice from people who have been writing and drawing and doing all this. We kind of took a collaboration from everybody. It was really very. A collaborative effort.
[00:41:10] Speaker A: You now. This is on shell. So as this episode. This is. Episode's gonna come out, I think, October 7th. So it's been out a week, and people have it. It's on the New York Times bestselling list.
Well, I don't know if we'd know by now if it was a week later. I think it's a little bit later.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: I think you should find out.
[00:41:24] Speaker C: We're gonna know.
[00:41:25] Speaker D: Know.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: Chris Nolan is looking to adapt this
[00:41:28] Speaker A: into a film to a very. They're changing a few things. It's very dark.
[00:41:33] Speaker D: It's. It's gone in a whole another direction.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Direction.
[00:41:37] Speaker C: Underbelly of 90s nostalgia. The dark.
[00:41:40] Speaker D: What.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: It existed.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: So you guys took the real story and went a little bit humorous. He went the other way. Like, it's very, very. You guys aren't funny. You guys are insane. It's like it's gotten to a point where, like, you guys are not all there. No, it's. And so obviously, I hate asking this question or talking about this because it hasn't even hit shelves yet, technically, according as of this recording.
Are you ready for. Are you ready for number two? Like, would you want to do more of this exact thing or something different or, you know, you guys have gotten a little taste of writing comic books. You want more of this?
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Yes, we would, honestly. Because the whole concept was. I mean, we would love to do issues. And we would love each issue to be a new case. That's kind of where we love to
[00:42:17] Speaker D: build out this universe.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Because we really, I think, I think this is kind of almost like the origin story of the detective agency and it's left off with that mystery client who reveals herself. So we, we would love to kind of be open for business and take cases and explore how that journey could go.
[00:42:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it really is the Scooby Doo model. I mean, it really is. You know, I think that they're, that they're, they're single, you know, handed journeys. And each one is a beginning, middle and end. And then, and then, you know, these, these three guys go on the case to try to figure out what the hell happened, you know, find out who's really behind the mask.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: And I've read it and I was like, it was so funny because I went into my local comic book shop and I'm like, make sure you get this. This is a couple months ago when I was reading it for the first time. I was like, make sure you get this because. And it was funny because it was like, again. And you guys probably get the same thing. When I was like, you got to get this book. And he looks at me and goes, really?
Because he's like, no, I don't think you understand. I'm going to be a proponent here.
[00:43:08] Speaker C: I'm going to be on the day
[00:43:09] Speaker A: that comes down, being here telling people they need to buy this thing because it is so much fun as well as nostalgic. And I think nostalgia sells right now too. I think it's a huge thing. People want to go back and think of these things, things. And when I discuss with other people that, hey, you guys are coming on the podcast. And I tell them, hey, the shows and movies you guys have been on, like, oh, those guys. And it was funny because like you say the Lawrence brothers are like. And then I mention a movie or TV show and they're like, oh, my gosh. And so it's very common with people I have on this podcast that are, that are known for one thing, but have written a book or a comic book. It's like when you tell them the other thing, they're like, oh, that clicks. They don't, you know, didn't get on there. But it's true. It's a fun thing. It's on shelves. You can get it on Amazon. You can get it on all these places. Bookshop.org is a big place for me personally, because it helps local bookstores. So if you go in there and you search for it and you buy it. You can connect it to a bookstore and your local bookstore will get a portion of that sale so that they actually get helpful help. Help on that as well. Which is pretty cool. And I'm guessing, I mean you guys can hopefully have some at conventions or things like that too. Or are you just hopefully. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. I'm excited for that as well for you guys. But closing up here, you guys are knowing. Known for lots of things. But when someone comes up to you at a convention, each one of you, what is the one person you're like? They're going to say, I'm from this.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: I get a lot. I mean again with the nostalgia. I get a lot of dcom reference like Disney Channel movies that I did or Recess and then honestly, I've done a lot of video games too in them, voice them and I direct them as well. And there's a. That's a really, really cool just community that's very supportive and is, you know, I'm proud of those too.
[00:44:42] Speaker C: So.
[00:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that's probably. And also us. Any movies we've done together, they love brotherly love and stuff like that.
Yeah.
[00:44:49] Speaker D: For me it's either the brothers or it's. What was it like working with Robin Williams? That's the. You. The two things I get, you know, you know, or Boy Meets World. I get Boy Meets World, but yeah, that's usually what I'll get.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: And then no one comes to Joey. Joey's table.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. Joe's kind of just the dead weight I get.
[00:45:06] Speaker C: I get.
I mean, I get. Yeah, it's a collection of things, man. You know, you always get a whoa. Thing from Blossom. You know, Oliver and Company's had a big glow up the last couple years with the Funko releases and everything like that. So people really have found that film and are enjoying that. Younger people, you know.
Yeah. And then it's all the stuff that we've done together.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Now it's. Now it's like, it's pretty cool to see that. Like, it's pretty cool. One of you guys overall could have been in movies and TV and the rest of them just been tag alongs. But like having you guys all in something that is recognizable to people, it's really cool to see that. I felt that and all. To me it was like one of those things that I said. I don't collect and go up to a lot of celebrities at conventions, but I thought to myself it was a piece of My childhood that was available on a vhs. So if it was available on vhs, I would get that sign. So you can't see right here, but I have a bunch of stuff up here from different people's VHS is like, you know, this is. What's it.
Look at this. But like, I got like Wild Cranberry sign. But like, everybody got something from Halloween sign. Like, you know, half naked, you know, hanging out and stuff like that. But I'm like, no, I want you to sign my Wild Thornberries vhs. And so to me, it's always been like that. So when I was able to get that signed at that convention from you, Joey, it was like adding it to that collection was. Was a fun thing to do. VHS things are always, to me, a big thing. So. And then getting you guys on here to chat, this is cool because again, I grew up watching you guys and I'm so glad you guys wrote a comic book because it's so much fun to read and I want so much more from you guys. So whether it's Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency or the next thing, I want more comics from you guys as well. And it's a lot of fun doing that. So go grab it. It's at your local bookstore. If it doesn't there, tell them you want it, they can get it. The cool thing about a graphic novel is that local bookstores can get it, but also your comic book shop can get it. They're both because it's a trade paperback, so it's available in the book market, so each place can get it. So no more. There's a bookstore or a comic book store near you. They could probably get it on the shelves. And if you don't see it, just tell them they can order it it because it's. It's easy to get. So. And if you want to just order it online and get it shipped to your house, because that's the way it works nowadays.
[00:47:08] Speaker D: I know that's the way it works, man.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: You can get it. But I appreciate you guys taking the time out of your busy schedules to come on here and chat the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency and so much more, all the success on publication day and all that stuff. And I hope that you guys come back on the future and chat about the next big thing you guys are doing because it was a lot of fun chat with you guys.
[00:47:26] Speaker D: Appreciate it.
[00:47:26] Speaker C: Justin, thank you for your time, man. Yeah, appreciate it for the love and support. Thank you.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:47:30] Speaker D: We'll talk soon, buddy.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Thank you, bud.
