Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com, i'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. This episode is once again brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles. Over at galactic comics and collectibles.com this episode we welcome Timmy Hague to the program to discuss Archie versus Minor Threats, the new series that he wrote along with Jordan Bloom and Patton Oswalt, with art by Scott Koblish. This book is phenomenal, so check it out. But you know, Haig comes from the world of Riverdale, written a couple different comic books based around Archie and so much more. He's also the owner and proprietor of the five time Eisner nominated Arsenal Comics and Games in California. So we checked a little bit of retail, a little bit of the comic book, a little bit of everything. So check it out. But before you do, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, bluesky and Threads as well as you can visit us and record rate reviews. Subscribe all that stuff over on Apple, Spotify or wherever you find your podcast. You can also find us on YouTube and as always, you can visit capesintites.com this is Timmy Hague, writer of Archie vs Minor Threats from Dark Horse Comics. Enjoy, everyone.
Welcome to the podcast. Timmy, how are you today?
[00:01:06] Speaker B: I'm fantastic. I'm just so stoked for the release of the book this week, honestly.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's exciting moments. Like, do you have nervous. Are you nervous too, though? I know you've got some reviews that we just chatted quickly about reviews, but are you nervous for people to actually read it now?
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that, that hit me at San Diego because like we did an early release for it and it was like this real surreal feeling of like signing it for people and then physically putting it someone's hands and then knowing, wow, it's out there now, you know, like it's, it's, it's in the, it's in the, the reader's realm. And yeah, it's, it was a bit nervous at first, but now I'm, you know, you ease into it and you know, yeah, it's, I mean, it's all real, just a surreal experience for me. It's my first four issue miniseries and like I, I've had quite the introduction to a first four issue mini series. Like, it's, you know, it's Dark Horse, you know, writing it with my pals Pat and Jordan, who have some names, you know, Scott Koblish. Is a name and a great pal of mine too. So I'm very thankful to be working for with him. And yeah, just have my first Force Uni series be a crossover, too. Is a. Is just a crazy thing.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: I mean, with. With an iconic franchise in Archie, but also, like, what I. I mean, I can't say speak for the future, but, like, what could be considered a iconic franchise in the future with Minor Threats is pretty crazy too. It's like, it's not even just. It's the beginning of one in the. In the long history of another alone.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Totally. Yeah. I think when you look at it like that, it just kind of like, makes sense that for our first crossover, it's just with something like Archie, you know. And also the best, you know, comic book crossovers and especially Archie crossovers are the ones where it's just like two pro, you know, properties that just shouldn't be mixed together, but it works.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: That's a huge thing. And that's what this Archie versus Minor Threats thing did to me. And I know you saw in our review, my review, but, like, the idea that, first of all, for anybody who's listening to this or whatever, that I don't really have a huge history with Archie. I know Archie. I've read a few panels here and there.
I know Riverdale, I know the history. I know all that stuff. I just never was a deep dive person into Archie. And so to me, it was like, I get the idea. I know Jughead, I know Archie, I know these people. I know Sabrina.
But I have read Minor Threats. And so that was what kind of drew me for the first place. But also, I either want a crossover that fits so perfectly together and stupid not to do, or one that's so out of the world weird that I'm like, how are they gonna make this work? There's some in the middle that were like, I can see how they did this. But, you know, that didn't really work for me recently.
The Stranger Things, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles one. To me, that works so well together because it's. They're both teenagers. They, you know, they're both actually. Sex in the 80s. Like, it all worked in that. There's only a couple of things where I'm like, how the hell are they going to get 11 to New York City Was a weird thing. And then she just found them in. In the city.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: I appreciate that one because, like, when it was solicited, I went into it thinking it was going to be like the 80s cartoon, like, TMNT. Like, I don't know, just in my head, that's what I imagined. And then it ended up being the very gritty, early, like, you know, Eastman Laird, you know, Miller esque tmnt. And I thought that was a really fun surprise. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't complain if they did another Stranger Things TMNT crossover, but just redid it. And it's the 80s cartoon ones, you know.
[00:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Completely different. Yeah. Yeah. But then there's, like, this one. Then there's this, like, this, like, this idea that, like, Archie and minor threats, like, minor. Like, no one. You could put money on the fact that no one ever thought. I mean, outside of potentially Pat and Jordan at the beginning. But, like, who would. That this would be a crossover that would be, like. Talking about right now is insane.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it kind of, like, it's just crazy how things roll out and have them, because it really just happened where we were all hanging out after doing a store signing, and we're all just hanging out. And, you know, we were just talking about the next, like, six months to a year slate of releases for the universe. And, you know, we were just like, man, we should do a crossover with somebody. How fun would that be? And, you know, we just started going, well, who?
[00:05:07] Speaker A: Who?
[00:05:07] Speaker B: And, you know, what's the. What's the craziest out there, you know, that nobody would see coming? And you. We all just kind of had a Archie light bulb go on at the same time, like, Archie. And, you know, I, at that time had been written. You know, I'd written for Archie for a couple years at that point, but I. I wasn't, like, you know, throwing my. My name in the hat or anything, you know, like, I wasn't going to do that. You know, that's just. That's just not me. And, you know, then they were like, well, who do we have to ride it? And then, you know, Pat just looks at me, points at me, and then Jordan points to me. I was like, okay. I'm not gonna say no, guys. All right. Thank you.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: Sorry. No. Trust my arm.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Exactly. And, yeah, it's. It's wild to think that it's, like, been a huge part of my life the last, like, God, like, maybe just shy of a year, like, we started. We started talking about it last, like, July, so, like, a year pretty much. And. Yeah, and then, you know, it's. It's been really fascinating just seeing, like, from conception now to execution. I mean, literally right before I hopped on with you, I was looking at the finished color pages for issue two.
Like, it's, it's just so wild seeing it all come together. It's, it's, you know, it's magical for me, for sure.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: It's so cool to hear like the behind the scenes story of how this came to be and stuff, like. But like, let's go back a little bit further. How did you get into Archie? Like, how. So are you an Archie fan through and through, or is this. Yeah, that you got her.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: You know what's, what's super funny is my first introduction to Archie was like at age 8 or 7, watching reruns of their 90s animated series, Archie's Weird Mysteries.
Like that, that was my introduction and I was, I was like home sick, like, weird sleep schedule, not even like middle of the night, like Toon Disney, which, you know, isn't it kind of weird like the things you remember? Like to this day, like I still remember like the digits on the remote, you know, which is something kids nowadays don't do, you know, you know, channel 292 tune Disney.
Yeah. And so weird Mysteries, that was my introduction to Archie and the gang and like the, you know, bear with me here, the archetypes of the Archie gang characters, you know, knowing what Jughead and Archie, Betty, Veronica, all that Reggie and I, you know, I didn't dive into like the comics per se right there and after. But what got me was I was at the comic shop even at that young age. I mean, I was a Wednesday warrior since like age 8. And you know, I was just on a whim, just talking to one of the people behind the counter about Archie. I must have been telling about the cartoon and one of them made a comment about Archie Punisher and I was like, what? That, that exists? And so Archie Punisher was my first Archie comic. And so it's kind of fitting that here I am now doing a crossover when like my first Archie comic was the, you know, big, crazy first Archie crossover with the Punisher. And yeah, and so when it comes to writing for Archie, you know, flash forward just a couple decades, it was post pandemic. And I, you know, I also am a retailer, you know, I do the whole comic shop retailer by day, comic book writer by morning and night or sometimes, you know, while I'm at the store. And yeah, and so I've been doing exclusive covers for my shop arsenal since like 2020, like to about at this point, just tail on to 2021. So that's just two years. And they've been really successful for me. And my whole bit with the exclusive Covers was like, I'd only ever want to do if it was an idea I got to come up with concept wise, and I believed in. And it was really cool seeing. Working with an artist, having this cover come to be. And it did well for my shots, and I kind of got an itch to take that to the next step. And ever since I was a kid, I dabbled with the idea of writing comics. It was always a dream. And I really pivoted to the retail side of things, first in my life as comic book dreams, because I opened up my first shop at age 22, believe it or not.
And so that, of course, took a big undertaking. A lot of my time opening up a small business.
And so the writing stuff, you know, was put on the shelf. And it wasn't until, like, early 2022, my town had, like, these two months worth of storms. And, like, business, like, at my shops was, like, pretty, like, stagnant. Like, in my town when it rains, nobody wants to do anything. And, like, you know, I was just at home, and I was just, you know, working on pitches, writing. And I, on a whim, just started looking at, like, all the covers we had done at my shops. And, you know, I was just like, man, you know, I had a good relationship with Archie for a while at that point with doing these covers, and I was just like, you know what? I'm gonna message them and see if I can pitch them something. Take this to the next level. Because, like, I'm always a big believer in, like, doing things the right way. And so I don't want to just, like, spam, you know, hey, here's some pitches. Like, I want to ask them, like, hey, can I?
And they were like, yeah, sure. You know, send it, you know, fill out this paperwork, mail it in, and shoot us some pitches. And there was one night I was on a whim, just randomly rereading Afterlife with Archie, which is, you know, Archie's first big horror title. And I also had playing in the background that Megan doll movie, you know, excuse me, M3G a N. Yes. Yeah, yeah, you know, and yeah, like, I. I was looking at Afterlife with Archie. I was looking at my TV screen, looking at the comic in my hands and going, all right, well, I think that's one of the pitches. And so I did that pitch, which was, like, definitely my favorite and best. I did. A couple others submitted it, and it wasn't until, like, three months later, I didn't really hear back, which, you know, I was so, like, at this point in my life, I was so only in the retail side of things. I didn't really know how publishing worked, editing, whatever. So at that point, I didn't really realize how truly busy an editor can be. And at that point, I made peace with. Oh, you know, it was a fun dream. It was cool, whatever. You know, it was still a great writing exercise. It was a nice thought, and I made peace with it, that I was going to hear back, you know, maybe my stuff sucked, whatever. And then I heard back like, a week later after I, like, I made peace, of course.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: And it was just like the craziest email. I was, you know, very emotionally happy, to say the least. Maybe there was a tear or two in my eye, whatever. And, yeah, from then on, it was just like, wow, this is the coolest thing. And yeah, the. The P became Toy Box of Terror, which was something that they were even cooking up on their side like, that they wanted to do. So me having a similar idea to their idea just, you know, it melt, like, just melded perfectly. And, yeah, I just could not stop writing for Archie. Since then, I just. I found a home in Riverdale and I. I didn't want to leave. And, yeah, I've been writing consistently with them since. And now, since then, I've done a couple other things with other publishers like Mad Cave and Valian. And now I can proudly say I'm part of the Dark Horse family, thanks to this crossover.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: That's so cool to hear. And it's like, Archie is a unique beast in the sense that it's got its history, it's got its stuff, it's got. It's not taking itself seriously at moments, too, where it's like, okay, it's gonna take it seriously as a God. But also the fun, like, the horror side of things. It's like one of those things that there isn't something where Archie won't. That group of people won't do.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's really fascinating. They turn 85 next, and they've done all of that and then some. And, you know, I've. I've been such a fan of their horror stuff since it started. And the way it stuff became such a, you know, was such a big staple for me in terms of my Archie. Just ever since that launched, I was like, wow, you know, modern Archie. This is what it can be.
And when I started writing for Archie, I did deep dives into just rereading all the famous stuff from.
I mean, what's funny to tie it back to Dark Horse is a couple years back Dark Horse got the licensing rights to reprint, like, older Dark Horse material. And so I would. I would reread a bunch of those trades where it was like stuff from the 40s, the 50s, kind of like a compilation best of, you know, and I just went all in because prior to writing for Archie, my familiarity was the way it was all the modern stuff, it was all the horror stuff. And so I was like, well, now it's time to, like, really do the classics. And I had the time of my life with that. And I just between all that and working with Archie and my, my. One of my editors, Mike Pelarido, who I've done the Digest humor stuff with, he's really shaped me to, like, have my brain be melded in an Archie comics writing way. And the artists I've worked with, like, with Bill Galvin, he's. He's really just, you know, I'm a really big believer and like, taking as much help as you can creatively to make you the best creator. And, you know, that even kind of is this crossover in a way. I mean, Pat and Jordan have made me just feel so elevated from before I started this to now. I feel like I've just come out of it a better writer. And just working with. With my guy, Scott Koblish, like, that's just also been another level of just like, wow, like, I'm just coming out of this, like, just rejuvenated. And in a way I didn't think I was. I mean, it was one thing for me to like, write this project and just be like, wow, I'm doing a four issue miniseries. It's a crossover, Archie Minor. It's like iconic characters and characters created by two of my best friends. Like, wow, this is the dream. But now I'm coming out of it. Like, I'm, I'm working on my first creator owned stuff. I am, you know, pitching to more publishers and talking to more publishers. Like, it's really just. It's. It's like one up to me, and I'm just, I'm just super thankful for it all. And I'm super thankful for Pat Jordan for taking the chance on me, and I'm super thankful for Dark Horse. They've been incredible, incredible to work with. It's. Yeah, I just. Not to sound like a cliche, but I'm just feeling blessed, y'. All.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I can imagine. And it's also one of those things that any comic book retail listening right now is saying screw you to you right now because.
Because, like, it's so hard comic retailer as well as write comics. This is like, you know, here's, here's.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: Here'S My response to that though, brother, hear me out is I am a comic retailer's best friend as a creator because I know every single thing they go through every day. I know what it's like to do hours of foci. Hours of processing a shipment, what it's like to be a one like Wednesday at the front lines. Like I, when I create a book, like I am thinking of the Wednesday Warrior. Like this crossover, every issue is written for that Wednesday Warrior. Where it ends on a good cliffhanger. Makes you hungry for the next issue. You want to make sure you put it on your profile. And like, on the promotion side of things, I know how many books are on FOC every week. So I know how hard it is where you have to stand out, not just to the fans, but the retailer. Because a lot of people don't realize with comics when you market them, you're marketing to two different audiences. You're marketing to the fan and then you're also marketing to the retailer. So they make sure they order your book.
And I mean, I, I promote like crazy. Which, you know, side note, one of the other hats I wear besides being a retailer and a creator is I do marketing services for comic creators.
So that's definitely. I call it my like comic book tri vision where I think of comics in three ways. A retailer, a creator, and. And marketing.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: And that like, I know how crazy it is for a retailer to like take a chance on books that aren't like Amazing Spider man or you know, Absolute Batman or Ultimate Spider man, whatever. And so I know how much of a champion I have to be.
Own book or another book or when someone's employing me to market their book because there's just so much you have to stand above and like, are retailers spending their hours of their day, their hard earned money? Like, I want to give them something that's easy to sell, that's a great read and also support them. Like, I had a blast with this books. Like, prior to FOC promotion, I did retailer packages for 75 retailers. I gave them buttons, you know, posters, signed stuff with me and Pat and Jordan. And I even bought some of them milkshakes. A gift card for milkshakes. Because art should comics, you know, it.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Makes so much sense. That's fantastic. I actually had a discussion the other day with, I work for a brewery during the day and I'm a creative director there. And I was saying that the similar thing about this you mentioned the retailer and the consumer is that I do the same. We do the same thing in a brewing industry or any industry. Has a distributor. We have a distributor that we have to almost sell to first to say, you want to buy this product off of us so that the REIT of the consumer will buy it from you. So our number one customer actually is our, is our distributor. You know, it's a little different comic books because it's distributed retail, but this.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: I, I see the parallel.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Number one, your number one customer is the retail shop because that's the person who's actually forking up the cash ahead of time to bring it into their shop to take a chance on a book.
Archie has a name to it in minor three. But to be honest with you, I'm the one that had to tell my, you know, book retailer up here that I wanted minor threats in the first place. And so, like, that's the one where like, you have to convince them to take minor threats first.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: And then hope it over takes off and then hopefully buy it because if not, it's a back, back room for, for months on end and hopefully you're selling it as a back issue. But like, you have to convince that retailer first.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Your book's worth it.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: You have to fire on all cylinders to, you know, you have to promote it to the retailer, the customer. You have to give them a quality product.
Like, I just, I love the direct market. I love retailers. I, I obviously know what it's like to be a retailer and so I just, that's always in my mind every step of the way. And I just, I, I want to support them like they support me. Like, I, I truly just feel like a comic creator could never not be like, thankful enough for the direct market because by the end of the day, they're the end of the line that keeps this whole industry generated. Like it's. And so you want to support them because they support you. And it's just, I'm a big believer that when you believe in the direct market, they will believe in you back.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: And I feel like it's good enough for us to do this. Just so you want, if you do want to support Timmy's shops, it's. They're in Newbury park in Adventure, California. It's Arsenal Comics and Games. So check that out. Not that you have to check out your local comic book shop. I'm saying, like, if you're in those areas, that's, that's the store you want to go into. And check out. You can go in there and check out. No, this is not a promotion thing. Timmy didn't slide me any money to do that on this thing. It was just one of those things. If you are gonna put. Let's put a face to a name. Let's put a.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: You're behind the scenes.
You're not on my ice cream milkshake gift card list. Sorry, bro.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: So it's. It's a. It's a. You know, it's worth it, though. I mean, you know, you could be. It's. It's the same thing. One of the owners of the business I work for does sales on the street that goes to, like, bars and restaurants and then sits down, has a drink. And someone came in the. This is a couple years ago. Someone came into our brewery once, and someone's like, hey, how's it going? Introduces my creative director. I do marketing, and you own the business, dude. Like, be honest. Like, he goes, I don't want to, like, become a whole thing and all that stuff. I'm like, okay, I can understand that. But still, I do sales. I own the business. I do the sales. And then walk away so you don't get into something. But, like, it was just kind of funny. I'm, like, saying you just do sales. This just sounds like you're a sales rep.
Your blood and sweat went into the making of this business.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: You know, people can. People can be kind of weird when it comes to, like, that type type stuff, you know? Like, it's so I. I kind of sometimes like to have, like, the. The dual identity. Like, sometimes I don't really lead, you know, in the conversation. I'm the owner. I mean, it's to the point now where my shops have been around so long that when I'm behind the counter, you know, people don't. You know, unless people don't really know I'm the owner. And it's fine. I'm totally fine with it. And, you know, it's. It's funny how much, like, can change.
When I first opened, I was so young that nobody would believe I'm the owner.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: So I'd like this chip on. I had this chip on my shoulder. Like, no, I am the owner. You know, I'm the boss. Respect me. And, like, now I'm just like, I don't care, man.
[00:21:06] Speaker A: You enjoy what you do. You're having fun. This is a great thing. Then why does it matter if someone, like, why do you need. What do you need? The credit or the, you know, the title above Your name because you're having fun doing it anyway.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but you can, you can have a lot of ego when you're young, for sure.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: This is mine. Well, I mean, also, if you're also fighting really hard to get it going and fighting really hard, you want to get, you get a lot of work, you want that credit, that sense. Now you're like, okay, I've been doing it. You guys are multiple times Eisner nominated. You're like, okay, we're here, we're on the map. I'll just, I'll come in, do my work and leave and not have to take all the credit for it right now. Yeah, but now your name's on a comic book, you know, four issue miniseries. Pretty crazy. But you obviously, you said you were friends with, with Jordan and Patton, which is really funny because gearing up to this, we were supposed to record last week and I gave you a week because you just got back from San Diego. You didn't get Covid like a bunch of other people. I, I know did. So that's a good thing, right?
[00:21:57] Speaker B: No, I, I came back a little fatigued, but I think it was just from the exhaustion of like starting every day at like seven and not going to bed till like you know, two in the morning, you know, three in the morning. Not in my twenties anymore.
So the, the first day back really hit me.
And you know, woe is me. I made this. I made the awful decision of going to Disneyland the, the night, you know, coming home, you know, so such a hard life I live.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
So my wife and I are just, we're just watching stuff. We watched Seinfeld and watched the whole season over again. Just all the seasons. We're like having fun, whatever, and watch Frankish Stanza on that. And we're like, oh, let's watch King of Queens again. Yeah. So it's kind of funny. And it's like. And I. We literally just watched an episode last night where, where Patton goes into a comic convention or toy convention to buy a toy around Christmas time. And I was just laughing and I'm like, you know what's funny about it? What people don't understand is that that dude is that that's his place too. He's an actor, he's comedian. But like, yeah, that toy shop and that comic book related thing is like, that's where he lives in his life too. It's not just the fact that he's a famous person getting to write comics. Like, this dude loves comics.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Patton's a true champion for the Medium. You know, he's, he's the definition of a true believer. Like, he, you know, he reads comics every Wednesday. He, you know, geeks out on it all. Like, he, he was just the coolest, nicest, greatest dude. And he just also just loves comics. Like, he, you know, there's nobody more deserving than him and Jordan to have this, you know, universe now at Dark Horse. You know, there's in there, they're working on the Netflix show, which is going to be awesome. And, you know, it just. There's a reason that all these comic creators want to work with them. You know, like, there's a reason Matt Fraction and Mike Allred and Brian Michael Bendis, you know, want to join in. Gail.
I mean, their anthology series that came out this year, welcome to Twilight, that had all those creators, was just phenomenal. I, if, you know, if that series is nominated for an Eisner next year, I'm just going to be pulling my hair out.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: You know, we riot. No, just.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, it's just, you know, they put, they've created this quality universe. It's very Astro City, you know, black Hammerish. And, you know, just going into the concept of just like, you know, this Universe already has 60 years of continuity.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: Do your thing. Let it rip.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: Like, and there's, there's some off the wall things. There's some more centered things, grounded things. I mean, the Kyle Starks and Ryan Brown's Barfly was absolutely, yes, phenomenal and off the wall.
You know, Tim Seeley also has contributed to add another name to, to the, to the list of people.
It's just a fantastic whole thing. But yeah, yeah.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: And it's a huge honor, like, for me, like, because Kyle and Ryan did an amazing thing with Barfly. What a, what a great piece of sequential art. Like, I think that should have been, you know, such a, like a humor nominee, you know, for the Eisners.
I mean, that was just one of the most hilarious books of last year. And I'm tech. I'm proud to say I'm technically the guy to write Barfly after them, which is really fun because they're a big part. Barfly is a huge part of the crossover.
So I was like, like, that's awesome. Like, it's a huge honor to follow up, you know, the, the Eater legacy.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Yes.
Yeah.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: For those who don't know, you know, the, the true Christian name for the titular character, Barfly, is it had the variant cover.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Did it have the variant cover? Was it a San Diego?
We did a, we Did a Glow.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: In the Dark San Diego variant where, you know, it's this barfly. But then when you're, you know, in the dark, the glow, it's, it's so good.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: And.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: Yeah, and then I'm a huge fan of the alternates. I think that book is criminally slept on. It was the first spin off of the Dark Horse Minor Threats universe and Pat and Jordan co created that with Tim Seeley and Chris Smitten and Tessa Fowler. And the characters Crap Louie and Mary, the multi monster from that are. And the Archie crossover, prominent characters.
Yeah, it's wild that my first four Chevy series was a book that not just was a crossover between two properties and two cast of characters, but like, they're kind of big casts. Like, and we do a huge, like, no spoilers. I mean, if you check out the COVID and solicitation for issue three, you'll get an idea of what our big swing is. But we do a big swing with issue three. And that was a huge undertaking that we kind of didn't really realize what we were getting ourselves into when we did the outline and pitch. And then when it came to issue three, we were like, like, whoa. Like this, this was, you know, so, yeah, it's, it's.
This book becomes things no one sees coming in such a fun, like, ride. Like, it's, you know, it's. There's my humor in it, there's Jordan Patton's humor in it, there's our action and fantasy adventure riding in it and there's horror as well. I mean, you have a character like Mary, the multi monster who, you know, it's in her name monster. But it's like I've said, and people scratch their heads when they hear me say it, but there's Archie Horror in this series. Like, there's, there's definitely something for the fans of Afterlife with Archie for the Vampironica, the werewolf, Jughead stuff with Jughead, the hunger. Like, I really wanted to encapsulate, like for this book. Like, we have for Minor Threats fans a reason to fully dive into it, get into it. Like, it, it. The book is integral to Frankie's origin, AKA Playtime. The star of Minor Threats main character. Like, it has to do with her childhood, her origin of becoming who she is, and also dealing with the effects of the, of what she dealt with in volume one. Because this book takes place in between Minor Threats, volume one and two. And then for Archie, I wanted to make sure that any Archie fan could dive into it. Enjoy it. Whether you're an Archie fan of the classics, the Mark Wade stuff, the horror stuff. Like, I.
Looking back, I, you know, if I heard me say these words a year ago, I'd be like, wow, how did I. How. How am I going to do that? How am I going to fit all of that in?
[00:28:11] Speaker A: But, you know, it's.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: Thankfully, we did it and it was a. It was a book that, like, took, you know, like, creatively. We. We took our time on it. Like, we wanted this to be good. You know, we all wanted to sit down together, collab together, and just do it right and just make sure that, you know, we hit all the notes. And, you know, it's just. It's been really. Like, maybe I'm just still a new and upcoming writer, but, like, I get a real kick out of editor notes. Like, I think fun side quests. And like, what's been. What's been wild is this book had two editorial teams, which has been so fun, like Dark Horse and Archie. And, you know, I'm such a nerd for all this Archie stuff that, like, you know, just the DNA of Archie in every way that, like, I found it really, like, really cool when, like, we'd be writing these characters and situations and stories that it is very outside the Archie realm because, you know, essentially the. The elevator pitch for Archie in the story is we're breaking bad with him. You know, he's becoming a little bit of, you know, he's becoming a little bit, you know, like a. Like just seeing the dark side and wanting a little taste of it. And Archie editorial really kind of helped make it as authentic as possible.
Like, you know, just even down to the. The T of, like, in this response to him witnessing something, his facial expression should be a little, you know, the whatever. And I just. I love it. You know, Like, I. If they are the end all be all on Archie Andrews and the gang, like, they are literally the people who know him better than anyone else. And so to have their guidance, you know, panel by panel at times is really fun.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: That's phenomenal. Did you guys. I mean, so you obviously, you and Jordan and Patton got together and talked about this, Discuss this, but yeah. Did you have. Not that. Because you don't want to spoil anything about how. How this crossover exists, like, in the comic book kind of happens. All I'll say is Sabrina the teenage, which is involved in it. But, like, it's a. But did you have multiple ways that you potentially could make this crossover happen and this is what you settled on, or was it. Yeah, okay. Nothing. Because I Don't want you to spoil what they're not. So people don't know what they are. But, like, you guys had multiple ways.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: We spitballed a couple options.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:30:16] Speaker B: And, you know, I, I take all of this way too seriously.
And so what I'm trying to say is like, like, when I first started writing for Archie, like, I did the huge deep dive in the history and, you know, the, the big stuff, the classics that I never got a chance to read prior.
And with this, like, I read ungodly amount of comic book crossovers, like, and I'd already read a bunch in my lifetime. You know, I'm. I, if, you know, been obsessed with comics since I was a wee lad, as they say. But I, I've read so many comic book crossovers of Marvel, D.C. independent stuff, like, which, you know, aka the 90s, you know, like, just so many. And, you know, with. With all of that, like, we, you know, and, you know, Pat and Jordan have obviously read their fair share of crossovers, and we all kind of just agreed that, like, the best. Because you go about this, like, two ways you go about it. Either, like, they. It's a multiverse thing where they go through, you know, a dimension portal. You know, Twilight, Riverdale are two different, you know, earths in the multiverse, or just they do exist in the same world. And it's fine. Riverdale and Twilight City are on the same map. And that is, you know, not too much of a spoiler, but that's the latter, is what we go through. That's the route we chose. And the way I look at it, and we talked about this when we were outlining and plotting everything is. It's just kind of more fun that Riverdale is just this nexus of just like, craziness that always just, you know, I mean, maybe the science of it, that Riverdale is like this multiversal nexus, you know, that every, you know, that just is open to every world possible. I mean, it's like that in the Punisher crossover, there's no multiverse thing. It's just, you know, he goes from New York City to Riverdale. And, you know, just recently I keep making the joke that's the crossover summer of Archie, because, you know, just last month we had Jay and Silent Bob meets Archie. Yep. So, you know, it's. It's a crossover summer and, you know, in that Archie just drives from Riverdale to New Jersey, you know, like, no biggie. But yeah, it's like you said, Sabrina's the huge catalyst for, for bringing everything together.
And you know, I. Sabrina is my all time favorite witch in comics. She's my favorite mystical character. And I'd been itching to do a. To do a Sabrina story that was its own thing, its own, you know, kind of a little bit of my style mixed with, you know, style and interpretation. Sabrina through the years and this project really let me do that, which I'm really thankful for. And you know, we had set up in previous. I say we. Pat and Jordan and Scott Hepburn have set up.
You know, can you tell I hang out with them a lot.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: You're part of the minor threats team now, so I can understand saying that. It's like me being a Red Sox fan or a Celtics fan, I'm like, totally. But like, it's not really. We. Yeah. And you're closer to Weed and I am with the Red Sox and the Celtics, so there's that too.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: But yeah, fair enough.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: And they set up the Frankie hates magic. Lose magic with a passion. And, you know, once we brought in the idea of Sabrina working in the idea of Frankie hating magic. Why does she hate magic? What does that have to do with Sabrina? What's the connection? And you know, to say for the umpteenth time, no spoilers, but we, we create an original character that is magical, that has a, you know, will have a connection to Sabrina and, and. And also very much has a connection to Frankie. And it's just. It's just a blast. It's just an absolute blast.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: I mean, because we talked a little bit about it at the beginning about the crossovers that don't really make any sense. And that idea that it's the. The multiversal nexus is kind of funny. It reminds me like the episode of Family Guy where like, Peter walks into the. The beyond section of Bed Bath and Beyond and he's like in this different dimension that's like. I feel like it'd be great. We just like in the school Riverdale, just like walk through the door and be like in. In, you know, minor sweats universe or like, which, you know, beyond the Bed.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Bath would be on a Riverdale then must be just nuts.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: Like, yeah, it's insane, but yeah, I love it. I'd love for it just be like, all of a sudden I know where you end up and like Spider Man's going by or, you know, not that door. See, that would be a funny beginning of a crossover of some sort. Or get the agreement with all these different publishers to say, can I use your little bit so that you open each door and Each door is not at the one.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know, when you do the. The deep dive into combo crossover, it's kind of the fun though, of like, seeing what people get away with without asking for permission. I mean, you know, it's like the one that comes immediately to mind is like all the times, even just in regular continuity of like, Amazing Spider Man, Bronze and Silver Age stuff. Mostly Bronze, actually. You'll see Clark Kent and like in the Daily Bugle. Super fun, you know, and then Spawn, you know, issue nine or eight or whatever it is where he's in hell and we see all the hands of every other superhero. Marvel dc, you know, that's a lot of fun. And, you know, Miracle man, there's a lot of that. Like, you see Spider man and Wolverine.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: Donnie Cates did that in crossover. Right. Because there's the prison scene where like, all the different characters, like the Infinity Gauntlets, like, sticking his hand out, his spawn, all that stuff. There's all these characters hands that are just hanging out of the thing too. Yeah, it's like, okay. It's like it's not the full character. It's okay, you know. Yeah, that would be funny. Like, you open a door, like, that's. That's New York City Spider Man. You open a door over here, that's Gotham. Oops. You know, like.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: And you know, and Invincible did it great, too. The Spider. The Spider Man. Invincible. Because it starts off with him, you know, with Batman. Right. You know, but you don't really see Batman. And then it moves. It moves on to Spider man. And yeah, it's. It's good stuff. It's good stuff.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: It's fine because it's here. We all. They're all individual businesses. You're doing this comic with Dark Horse, you know, in collaboration with Archie Comics. But it's like Dark Horse is going to try to sell as many comics because it is a business. People, like, people are trying to make money on this thing. Thing.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: This is not just art.
And I'd like to think, you know, with me, you know, with. With me, you know, with the marketing of it all and promo, you know, I think it did all right for them, which I'm happy to hear, you know, makes me feel good. And, you know, everyone seems happy with the release. So, you know, so, yeah, from now on, it's just making sure, you know, everyone gets, you know, their hands on 2, 3 and 4 puts on their poll list, you know, and yeah, it's. It's release week, so we got a cool promo video or two. Or three going up. And you know, just my whole thing is, you know, by the end of this, I just want to make sure everyone possible has heard about the existence of Archie versus Minor Threats Number one. From Riverdale to Twilight.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: You didn't temporarily change your store names for the, for the week to Archie versus My Threats Comics and Games. Like, you didn't like, you know, that's.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Not a, that's not a bad idea. I, I do have posters in the window, of course. And yeah, I, I, I, I got a couple standees made up, life size standees and I got a couple in the window and I'm bringing those like where we sign and I brought some San Diego. But you know, it's a, it's funny you say that because it's a fine line, like for me because, like, I never want to be like the, the record store owner who's in a band, you know, he's like, oh, do you want to see my cd? You know, like, I never want, it's.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: Got a small little steak stack of the store. Yeah, well, at, after the publication three years from now, that comic's still on the front desk somewhere.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: Exactly. And so like, you know, I'm not gonna say hand on Bible, but maybe hand on Action Comics number one or something. But like, you know, I can proudly say that. Like, I've never, like, I've never elevator or sales pitched my own book in my own store. Like, I just, I keep it separated. Like if they'll, if, if they want it, they'll find it. But I just, you know, there's just so many great comics out, out always, every Wednesday that, you know, the last thing I want to do is put a book in their hands that has my name on it. Like, if they want to. Fantastic. I'm not gonna say no. I'll even sign and remark on it if they want. But like, you know, for, for me, it's just like I, I just love comics. I love talking comics, I love promoting comics.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: So, like, you're also a business, so you want to make money. So if people don't like it, you might not get customers anymore. Be like, oh, that comic store where that guy wrote that crappy comic book.
[00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's, yeah, that's just, no, thanks. I, you know.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cringey. But. So everyone in your pull box, they all, they all got a copy there, right?
[00:38:19] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, that's right. That's right.
No, you didn't want one.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: I don't care. You're getting one. Let's tuck it right in there.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Off to the Phantom Zone with that person.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: It's funny because I got a guy that's in like, my local comic book shop, Galactic Comics and Collectibles. They. There's a guy that always like, picks. Picks up the name. I think so too. Yeah, he's. He got the bucket from Galactus from Fantastic Four up on the shelf, that thing. He's just, oh, nice. The, the popcorn bucket. But he goes every once in a while. There's this one dude who's always like, I didn't pull this comic. And he's like, for sure you did. My job is not just to put random comics in random people's boxes, hoping that people buy them. This is like, yeah, so.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: And when it comes to like, it's funny, like, there's two types of customers when it comes to like, that situation. There's the customer who gets a book they didn't pull and they're stoked on it because they're like, oh, you thought of me, thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out. And then there's customers who are on the complete other side of that that are like offended, angry.
So I, I actually have through the years learned to just like, not do that. Like, I just, you know, like, we'll talk about it and point at the rack. But yeah, it's, it's a weird fine line because you'll have customers that appreciate the surprise and the pull box of recommendation and some that like, think now they feel obligated that, you know, the, the, the store wants them to buy it or something, whatever, and like, kind of looked out everything as much as possible with my 11 years of all this that just like, you know, whatever is the best vibe, whatever's the best, you know, just overall way of doing things. And yeah, like, we love recommending because like, we, we know what customers like. We see your poll list. We talk to you every Wednesday. You know, a good comic shop is like Cheers, right? You know, where everyone knows, you know. So, yeah, it's, it's needless to say there won't be a copy of Archie versus minor threats in everyone's poll 5.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: So I will say, obviously you don't want to tell your on. Pat yourself on the back and promote your own book and be like, I get more sales if I sell more.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: My shops, however.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: Yeah, you do. But listen, I will say to anybody out there, listening, listen to your local comic shop owner because just what you said, how they know what people like and so on and so forth. I mean, I missed out on Department of Truth originally when my LCS owner said, I really think you dig this comic. And I was like, nah, I end up paying like 40 bucks for issue one way later because of this. So. So I always said to him now, but now I've gotten so good like in with him and I'm buying some random comics here and there that he doesn't question my choices, which it kind of makes me mad. So this is for Paul. Paul Eaton of Galactic Comics. Like he. I don't buy DC comics. I just don't. The only time I ever buy, I'm just not a big fan of the universe. That's my own thing. But like, whenever I pull something from dc, there's a reason I'm a huge Kyle Stark. So anything Kyle Starks writes, I want from dc. There also is a big Michael Del Mundo. Michael is one of my favorite artists out there. So anything that he's doing a variant cover run, he did like six issues of the recent Flash series.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: But if it's not that and it's a random DC conkin, it was a mistake, Paul. Okay, so don't.
I don't even pay attention. He's just ringing him up and I'm like, cool. And I go down and I go, I didn't want this. I was like, yeah, I was questioning that. And he's like, I was questioning that. I'm like, why did you give it to me?
[00:41:27] Speaker B: That dude, you know, I, I gotta.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: Say though, like, for me, it takes a village.
I gotta.
[00:41:33] Speaker B: Great. I got a great team. Like, you know, my, my, like, I'm very thankful for the team I have. And like, they, they all, you know, they all believe in the mission and.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Yes, yes, you know, do a great.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: Job of, you know, doing, you know, what I would do in the shops, you know, in my absence. And you know, because it's hard to be at two stores at once. It's hard to do everything I do, you know, and still be behind the counter. So I'm, you know, I'm very thankful for, for a good shop. And so, you know, I, I think some of the, you know, the best people in this industry on the direct market side of things aren't just comic shop owners, but managers, employees, staff, you know, and it truly is a team effort. And yeah, I.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: All your, all your employees are there out to pitching your comic book, are you not?
[00:42:15] Speaker B: I'm very flattered when some do, don't don't get me wrong, but if I If I ever hear in the store, I'm very like, you know, like, I get. I kind of get like shy, nervous, embarrassed about it. You know, it's like they're like proud parents and I'm the embarrassed. Stop it, dad.
[00:42:32] Speaker A: Well, I feel like the same. I go to a bar or restaurant and someone's like, oh, you. I should really get your breweries beer, right? I'm like, no, get what you want. I don't want to. There's none of this forcing is. I'll get my salary while you buy that. Someone's gonna buy that beer. I'm not worried. Totally. So just. Just, you know, hopefully that is. And hopefully with. The thing is, I do think that 90% of the people are coming to this comic book. I say 90. This is a bad percentage. This is no math. There's no actual, like, research in. This is coming to this because of the Archie side of things. They know Archie. It's been historical and iconic character.
And then the other smaller percentage is coming because of Minor Threats. And that's only because it's recent. It's not. It's not this. It's not a big two. It's also recent. And so part of that is, is I'm hoping there's a lot of people out there that read it and go, oh, I really need to read this Minor Threat series. And they're going to buy the trades and they're doing all that stuff because that's amazing. But there's the other side. That's me, Timmy. Like, I'm. I'm. I'm gonna be picking up some Archie Horror. I'm gonna pick up some Archie comics. I fell in love now with Archie because of this. And I think that's the coolest thing about across the. Is that pull the polling on both sides of this thing and getting both fan bases, either more fans or whatever. It's really cool.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: That's. That's really awesome to hear.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: I'm a. I'm a. I'm gonna tell everyone you said that.
Yeah, I like with this crossover, like, it's. It's like that for me. Like, I want people to read more Minor Threats after it. I want people to read more Archie from it. Like, if they read the issue, it's very Archie Horror. I hope they pick up more Archie Horror. Like, if they dig the, you know, the classics of the Archie style in it. Like, I hope they want to. To pick up some digests or, you know, some best of compilations. Like, I just. My whole thing, like by the End of the day is comics are for everyone. And like, I want to make this book, you know, for as many audiences and fandoms as possible.
And yeah, it's, I, I, I hope Archie fans resonate with it. Minor threats fans resonate with it. And you know, I'm very thankful for the response we've gotten so far. And the book's not even officially out yet. Like, we sold out at Comic Con, which is really cool. We did an early release of 100 plus copies and they all sold out at our signing. And you know, the reviews we've gotten so far have been very kind. And yeah, I, I really hope Wednesday warriors gravitate towards it on Wednesday and I hope it finds its, its life, you know, past Wednesday, of course. And people want to put the whole miniseries on their profile and you know, I, I hope they write all the letters to Dark Horse and say they want a sequel.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Or at least they want you to write more comics. I mean, it could be anything at this point.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Well, that's a big thing. It is a big thing thing. I mean, if you honestly, I say pre ordering is huge and telling your LCs ahead of time is huge. But I also think the big thing is if you, even if you miss out on issue one completely and you want to know about the series or whatever, and you're like, I want to trade way buying issue two and issue three and issue four are massive to this because if it held the longevity of all the issues, it shows it's worth the investment. And so I think that's a huge thing too. So if you buy issue one and you're like, like, this is cool. Even if you don't get a chance to read it yet, try your best. It's only four issues, people, like, it's like three or four dollars a issue. You're talking 16 bucks. So like it's not a massive investment.
[00:45:32] Speaker B: Into buying comics, but there is not a page wasted.
We even had to add some pages for later issues just because we wanted to cook so much and fit so much end to have it be the best piece of sequential art possible. Like it's, you know, there, no, no punches were pulled. No expense, no expenses, you know, were, were spared. Like, it's, I, I'm really proud of this book and you know, I'm really proud of, just to say that I created something with, with three of my favorite people. You know, Pat and Jordan Scott are just the best and most talented dudes. And I, I really hope people Love this book. Even just a fragment of what I love about it.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: And I think people do. I think it's a fun thing. I think it's one of those, those. If you're looking for something different, that's. This falls into kind of that category if you're like, oh, yeah, you know. And again, it's those people who haven't tried minor threats, like, it's so worth it. So grab Your Minor Threats, Volume 1. At the same time you're grabbing this issue. Yeah. And just get it.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: When I do some signings for it, I'm definitely gonna have trades of volume one, you know, next to me for sure.
Yeah. Like, it's just. It's a blasting the humorous, you know, draw teenage drama world of Archie like lean and collide with the world of minor threads and the world of just dark, gritty, you know, C less superheroes crossing over with Archie, it's just wild and like, you know, just seeing him have this side of him we've never seen before where he gets jealous of Reggie for being this bad boy because Archie is just being viewed as a square and by Betty and Veronica and he just can't handle it. And it's, it just. It's very fun to do something with archie that in 85 years hasn't been done before. He hasn't broke. You know, he's. He hasn't become the super villain to the point where it makes sense of him becoming evil and trying a world of crime and the motivations and it's, it's. I'm proud that we've been able to set that up where it makes sense, it works and most importantly, it's fun.
[00:47:35] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. That's awesome. And I don't want. I want people to buy at their local comic book shop. But like, is there. I know you are friends with Jordan and Pat. You saw sign. Are. Is there a place where people can also buy like potentially from you with that signed or in like that?
[00:47:47] Speaker B: Are you doing that?
I'm gonna definitely have some copies.
We're all hanging out. Wednesday morning we're doing a signing in LA at a shop called Comic Den, which is a newer shop. So we want to support a new. A new shop and they're super slammed this week.
Like Pat in the next day. Same with me actually. We're. Patton's going up to Eugene for some comedy and he's also all. We also have a signing up there too. So I'll be. I'll be going up there as well. So. Crazy. Yeah, we're Gonna be signing up books of pictures, Eugene. And it's, it's like I made the joke. It's like the Lollapalooza of comic shop sightings. Like we got Matt Fraction, Mike Allred, Gail Simone. Like it's, it's just gonna be a. It's gonna be a hangout. Laura Allred, of course, the greatest colorist of all time. And yeah, like it's, it's a busy week but I'll be getting books signed. We'll. We'll have them all. I'll bring them back to my shops and, and I'll definitely put them on the website.
Just you know, get. And making it happen.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's. That's so cool. It's one of those. I have like 17 covers, different covers of Minor Threats. I got the gold cover Cold Edition 1 here signed by those people and all that stuff. So it's always, it's always. I like the people like to sign things. I think, you know, we together. So that's a, that's a place to go. But by. Who doesn't want to. Yeah.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Who doesn't want a four time signed comics?
[00:48:58] Speaker A: Fuck. You know, buy the one at your local comic book shop and then also try to find the other one because then you have the one that you can read and one that you put in a case and put it on.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: The wall and you know, while we're hyping it, why not just buy all six covers while we're there?
[00:49:09] Speaker A: You know, there's the pre order issue two. Like just get it all over. That's right.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: All right, let's see if I can name all six cover artists. Dan Parent, Mike Allred, Patrick Orvath, you got of course, Scott Koblish did a cover. Scott Hepburn and Joe Keonis. Yes. Also.
[00:49:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:28] Speaker B: Man.
[00:49:28] Speaker A: Why is there. Yes. Because it's a cover A. Yeah. I was like, why is there only five here? But there's cover A League of Comic Geeks. But yeah, it's. It'. A. It's crazy. So yeah, it's a fun to crossover. Like I said to me, it's one that works because it's so weird in that sense. Yeah. That it doesn't work. It doesn't normally fit. You wouldn't think about smashing these things two together. But it works.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: And that's what makes the best Archie crossover.
[00:49:49] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. You're so right about that. And I'm so glad that I stumbled upon you now. And I now I've got another, another writer to follow along with and read your stuff. I appreciate you coming on, taking the time out of your busy schedule. Look them on here and chat about Archie versus minor threats. It's available today. The day this episode drops is when they actually have it. So go. You're listening to this on the way to work. Make sure you call your local comic book shop.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: By a shop.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: Do you have that? I'm on my way over. Take a lunch break. You know what? Your boss will be okay if you're 15 minutes late because you stopped and got Archer. Just tell them that. That'd be amazing. A little thing to insert into it, like a little like note for your people.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: You can give them my info. You know, I'll give you a lullaby will be great.
[00:50:29] Speaker A: All good? Yeah. But I do appreciate it. Thank you so much, Timmy for coming on and chatting with us. We'll get you sometime in the future.
[00:50:36] Speaker B: Awesome. Thanks so much.
