Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Capes and Tights podcast right here on Capesandtights.com I'm your host, Justin Soderbergh. Once again, this episode is brought to you by our friends over at Galactic Comics and Collectibles at galactic comics and collectibles.com Speaking of that, Paul Eaton, comic book retailer of Galactic Comics and Collectibles, is joining us once more to say merry Christmas to everybody and watch Die Hard, the Christmas movie. But before you listen to this and discuss Die Hard with us, follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Blue sky threads, all those places you can rate, review, subscribe over on Spotify, Apple, wherever you find your podcast. You can also watch the video over on YouTube or on our website Capesintites.com this is Paul Eaton of Galactic Comics and Collectibles and myself discussing Die Hard, a Christmas movie.
Enjoy everyone.
Welcome to the podcast, Paul.
Merry Christmas.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: We're back. Merry Christmas, Justin.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: It's now my favorite time of year. It's awesome. It's so great. It's now safe to say that to people and talk about it. Like, I feel like last week you're kind of like there's like 50 of the people will punch you in the face and 50 of the people who were like, embrace you. And so you never know, you know, like you never.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we already had, we already had Christmas decorations up at our house and we hosted Thanksgiving this year and whatever it is, what it is.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: Well, here's my theory. If you buy a Christmas turkey at.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: My house, you have to deal with Christmas decorations.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: If you, Paul, if you buy a Christmas present for someone that moment you buy that Christmas present, you're technically celebrating Christmas. So like, if you buy a Christmas present for someone like November 15th and you say, oh, you can't set up your Christmas decorations and then what the hell, then stop buying the presents. December, November 15th. Like wait till after Thanksgiving to buy.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Christmas presents then, right?
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Unless you're buying for me.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Retail once you buy Christmas presents all day long.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Well, my big thing was always every day, all year.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Keep it going.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: If you're a massive Thanksgiving fan. So like you just do the turkey, the cornucopia, you're doing like the crafts, you're doing whatever you want fall themed, then cool. Wait till the day after Thanksgiving to separate celebrate Christmas. But if you really just let the holiday go by, you visit the family, do all that stuff but don't actually like do stuff about it, then why not? Like, I don't understand, like, it's not like, it's not like you're, you're, you're saying screw you to the holiday. You're still celebrating the holiday. But like, who. I, my mom used to do it. But like, I don't know very many people who set up like full on Thanksgiving decorations.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: And so like we have like, I think we have one of those signs, it's like Happy Fall or whatever with some pumpkins and that stuff in it. And then we have like a scarecrow that usually comes out and like lives on the porch, like sits on the stairs or whatever. And I don't think this year we even did that. I think we went straight from Halloween.
Actually, I know we didn't went straight from Halloween to Christmas. Like November 1st, I had two of the girls. Oh, we went to a hockey game. Yeah, Charlotte and Emma and I went to hockey. And we got back, Liz and Katie had already started putting Christmas decorations up. All the Halloween stuff was gone.
We jumped right over the whole fall season thing that goes on for like, whatever.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Well, I mean, we also spend so much money on these decorations.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: Over the years. And you collect them. I have much to shoot. Eight, eight totes of, of stuff in the basement for, for Christmas, whether it be like stockings or decorations. And like, if you spend so much money, like, okay, so we get 20 days of using it. Like, come on.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: So we set up small things here and there last month in November, some here and there. And then we didn't set our, we didn't set our tree up like you didn't until this weekend. That's our tradition. We, the Saturday after Thanksgiving, get our tree, we put it up, we do all this stuff.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: And so on Friday I was out there.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: Makes sense. Like, it makes sense to me.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: I was out there hacking the thing down. And by hacking, I mean now I have the saws all. And I just. Yeah, screw this.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: See, we went to the place, this place we moved to Newport, right. And so our, our, our where we get our tree changed because we used to get the Boy Scout. We used to support the Boy Scouts, right. In Orington. And then you just go up there, you pick a tree out. They're all fresh cut trees from the local area. But like you pick it, you pay them, they get a, you know, donation basically, they get some fundraising and then they'll deliver it to your house for free.
And so what we do typically do.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Is plugging it in.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Like on the Saturday after Thanksgiving, we'd swing by on the way to the grocery store and we'd pay them and we'd do all this stuff. We'd go get our groceries and we'd come back and by the time we get back, about five minutes later, the guy would stop by with the, you know, Boy Scout. They put it, they'd bring it right in your house. And I was like, that's cool. It's easy. It's. It's supporting the boy Scouts, it's doing all this stuff, you know, and we're right, right down the street and then we're like, oh, crap. We were going to Newport and my father in law was like, test to see how far they'll deliver for free.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're not delivering a Newport for free. It's. It's okay. It's a half an hour away.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: I know kids, you want this money or not?
[00:04:43] Speaker A: And so we went to a local place and we were just about to cut a tree down. Like, we were like, oh, let's borrow a saw. Go cut it down. And it was so windy. It was like on the top of a little hill and there's so much stuff going on. And I was just like, you know what? They had about a dozen trees they had cut that morning. And so I was like, oh, I'll just pick one of these and put it in there. We got in the house, so it's great. We got a fresh cut tree. It's real. We just didn't cut it down. Next year Riley will be a little bit older, Nova's a little older. We'll go do it and do the actual whole cutting the tree down thing because.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: Yeah, let him go.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: I like that thing. It's always, it's always an event. Like you do your, you do your Christmas shopping, you do your coloring, you watch your Christmas movies, you cut the tree down. That's all a thing. It's. It's tradition.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: And you watch Christmas movies Die Hard.
Like, Die Hard.
So we thought this year, I mean, every year around this time, we try to watch something that's Christmas related. Last year we watched Batman Returns.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: All the way, right?
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. And then next year, I think we're gonna do Nightmare Before Christmas because I think it's one of those fun, different ones.
My wife and I consider that Thanksgiving movie only because it's not really a Halloween movie, but it's not really a Christmas movie. So you watch it right around Thanksgiving.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: That's good. You're right in the middle. I never watched the entirety of the Nightmare Before Christmas.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: We'll do that. And that's funny to think about out of all the movies we watch around the Christmas time, two of them will be Tim Burton movies, which will be kind of funny. So. But it's a Die Hard. It's Die Hard, Die Hard. So it's also one of those ones that.
Let's start off with this. Paul, in your opinion, is it a Christmas movie?
[00:06:21] Speaker B: I in. For argument's sake, I'm gonna go, yeah, why not?
[00:06:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: See, why not? It hits the stuff, right? A guy's trying to get home for the holidays.
His wife's name is Holly. So we have the whole like, oh, we have something either Nick or Holly or Chris or whatever. So we got. We got that in there, you know, and it all takes place during Christmas. You got all the Christmas decorations. And honestly, it makes a lot of references to it.
I mean, I wanted to get the. The Funko Pop back in the day of the dead terrorist with the Christmas hat on. The Ho ho ho.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: And was just like, no, we're not putting this out.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: Well, it's like, Chris, have you seen the Christmas word of views people make? And they cut that. You know, the image of him crawling through the thing and they make it.
Or that that photo has been photoshopped over the years of adding a Christmas hat or Santa hat to him. And it's.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: So I saw one of the ones where you count the days by Hans Gruber falling off Nakatomi Plaza.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: I see.
So. So it's so funny how it's become this, like, cultural almost phenomenon, this cultural thing about it. So, yes, I would agree. I would say it's fringe. Like it's on the outskirts. Yeah.
This is not your Christmas Carol. This is not your Christmas Story. This is not your Home Alone. However, I have a statement to make about Home Alone and it's.
It's there. So if you actually look online and I googled this and did kind of the research on it, the definition of what a Christmas movie is, okay. A movie classified as Christmas is if it's set during the Christmas season and the holiday is central to the plot, affecting the character's actions and motivations.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Got it.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: All of it. So. So the first two minutes of the movie, Paul, the first two minutes of the movie, you have a mentioning of Christmas and the theme. Okay. In the first five minutes of the movie, they're at a Christmas party. And in the first eight minutes of the movie, you hear a Christmas song.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: And so DMC Christmas music right in there. And so Johnny Christmas music. This is Christmas music. Yeah.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: And then when they break into the actual safe finally, the music is in celebratory, regular music. It's celebratory Christmas music. And so all of that says, yes, it is. But again, this is just a story.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: About a nice guy and his friends trying to spread Christmas cheer and wealth and this angry dude trying to prevent it.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: So, so Home Alone, that's my statement about Home Alone is, are we gonna.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Get more about this?
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Yes. More Christmas related. Because obviously there's. He sees Santa, you know, he goes Christmas shopping.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He goes to Santa to make his wish.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: However, take that and set that during Easter, same thing.
He goes to the. You see the Easter Bunny at the mall.
So to me, honestly, it's like the central point. The. The point is the family goes on vacation. That's the point of that movie. It's not because they're going on. It is Christmas break. And that in that. So to me, I'm always like, to me, oh, Die Hard's not a Christmas movie. Then Home Alone isn't a Christmas movie in that sense of, like, it's a little extreme to think about, but in the same sense of like, he watches.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: He watches the Grinch, but his overall movie that he keeps playing is all the, like, gangster, like, old, like, movie that has nothing to do with Christmas either. Like, that's a centralized thing of him using that movie.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: And so I think it's. So I think that it's one of those. It's hard to say. So there's also timing. So Taylor and I have this, like, this, like, methodology to watching Christmas movies. And there's like a time for things like the week, maybe two weeks before Christmas is we watch A Christmas Story and Elf in Rudolph. And like, as you're like, okay, we're getting into the Christmas season, right? We're really Thanksgiving weekend. The weekend after Thanksgiving, that's when I watch like, your, like, fringe ones. Like I watched Fat man or. Or which is like the Mel Gibson Christmas movie and, and horror Christmas movies and Die Hard and Nightmare Before Christmas and those ones. Because it's like, okay, we're at the beginning of it, so you can watch those ones that touches on it, but Joe doesn't actually, like, dive fully into it. And that's where I think Die Hard sits, is that. Is that you should watch Die Hard if you want to watch it every year for Christmas on, like, the weekend of Thanksgiving, get your Christmas tree out. But you still.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: What we'll do is we'll watch the family one. You know, we watch the traditional family Christmas movies that we watch, and then when the kids go to bed some, you know, Liz and I want some. Some more movie. We're trying to hang out and you know, we can't watch the ones that the kids always want to see. So we'll watch Die Hard or we'll watch the Ref or we'll watch. I honestly. Lethal Weapon takes place. The first Weapon takes place during Christmas.
So we'll watch these like fringe or inappropriate Christmas movies. I'm not gonna sit down and watch Bad Santa with the kids, so.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. And so there's this time and place for it. So there's that there. You know, that's the, the whole thing about the Christmas movie part. So that's why we're doing it this year. It's Christmas or this time of year, it's Christmas esque, if that makes any sense. It's different. And again, I would classify way more. More than Christmas with the Batman Returns. And so, you know.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think this has much more of a Christmas theme than Batman Returns. Batman Return basically had the, the parade that gets interrupted with their lighting. The tree ceremony.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: And then I think that comes back again with the tree ceremony. And then there's some like snow scenes and stuff. Besides that, like, it's. It's definitely not nearly as centralized around Christmas as this movie is, so.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Actually my biggest question, Paul, is why is our holiday party for Galactic Comics not as good as this? Holiday party? Well, besides the terrorists taking over the place. I meant like the actual party.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: I was gonna say, do we want terrorists taking over?
[00:11:56] Speaker A: I mean, it would be exciting.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: That's true. I'm not gonna fit in an air duct.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Well, I mean, they're get. They make them bigger nowadays. It's fine.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it better be good size.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, a building that size. So the funny thing is that's actually what Fox Tower. Fox, like that could tell me. Positive. Is actually where like Fox Films or whatever. Universal, whatever that whatever.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Whoever was filmed in la.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: On site.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: It's pretty funny. That is the, the thing. And again, Christmas movies tend to come out in November.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: December.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: December. Like they don't tend to really.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Surprise.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: Came out in summer.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it surprised me. I mean, it makes this the summer blockbuster. But it surprised me that this didn't come out in like November when I was reading about this. So this came out what, 88, right?
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Yes, July 15, 1988.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: Okay, so I was. Let's see, I was six and I must have seen this movie probably when it came out of vhs the next time, like I saw it when I was probably like seven and was absolutely hooked. I was, I was right hooked on action movies at this age.
And I love the fact that originally they went to like Schwarzenegger and Stallone and like the big action stars all said no. And then they got Bruce Willis who is perfect for this role.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Well, and honestly, if I think I know that it's actually like his first big role.
Yeah, he was in other stunning but like he was never in this big of a role. And to be honest, while we're talking about this too, it's, it's, it's. It's. Glad we're talking about it now. I mean he's not long for this earth right now. And I think that it needs in a spot where he can. And so. And I like.
Exactly. So people gave him a lot of too towards the end of his career. He was just trying to make some money. And so there's a lot of the movie searches in his career that kind of like put a damper on his longer career. But he's got some awesome stuff and he's done some amazing stuff. He's a singer, he knows he's albums out that he's written and so on and so forth. And we actually have one or a brewing company in downtown Bangor. We have his. One of his vinyl records. But anyways talented and so.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: But.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: But here's my theory. I thought is Paul, why make it like, is it. Do you think that anybody behind the scenes wanted this question in this conversation and this thought process behind the Christmas connection?
[00:14:07] Speaker B: I think there's an action movie. I think that was their goal was like, let's make an action movie. The action like series had started taking off more in this era and they were like, we got to make a big action. I don't think they had any. I think it was just kind of.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: But like, but why set it around Christmas? Like isn't it possible to just do. He's coming home, coming back in the summer, he's visiting Holly again. Like just either trying to reconnect, he's coming back to visit or around any other holiday, Fourth of July, Thanksgiving. Like you could have done a bunch of different reasonings why these are people coming back together. And the party in the plot in the hotel or the office park was not just about Christmas. It was about a successful year. And so it's like it could have been a New Year's movie. It could have been, you know, sometime in April. So. So why Christmas in that sense? Like, there really isn't again, this is the the, the, you know, devil's advocate part of this thing is why is it a Christmas movie? Like there's nothing that, that makes it have to take place during Christmas. No, but I guess you don't travel to visit people or he wouldn't have gone out of his way with how busy he was in New York to visit Holly if it wasn't for the holiday.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Christmas. Yeah, he's trying to get home and see the kids. Well, get to LA now where she is and see the kids and you know, maybe this re sparked the marriage and all that sort of stuff. And I think that Christmas was a sort of perfect reasoning to all of the stuff going on. And if you're the, if you're the terrorist, it's the perfect time to hit.
Most of the people are gone. You have enough people there, but not so many that you can't control the situation.
Who's going to expect that a terrorist group and, or actually just a pile of robbers, but terrorist group is going to hit this Christmas party. Yeah, like they, they had it. It's the perfect timing. Most of the buildings closed, but it's still there.
[00:15:54] Speaker A: And they, and they needed to have him there.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: The building's still functioning to be able to do what they were set out to do. So really, I mean, it worked in.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: Their benefit because let's be honest, how many times people watch this movie nowadays, I mean, it's a great movie, but like how many times do people watch this movie nowadays? As people got older and as the movie progressed because it was like that connection to Holly. Oh, why do people say it's a Christmas movie? Let me try. You know, like, would I sit down with Taylor and just be like, watch this movie. It's a great movie. Unless it was like, people don't say it's a Christmas movie. So like there is that. Like that maybe they just fell ass backwards into it. Like how many people have bought the dvd, watch the movie, all that stuff? No, I have. So that's the funny. Another thing I wanted to say to people was it's not, it's. It's actually surprising, I think to a lot of people that it's actually based on a novel. It's based on a book called Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorpe, which I.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Now really want to read too.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Me too. And I feel like that's one of those ones. And I feel like now I want to wait till next Christmas.
Yeah, but it's. Yeah, it is a thing. It's it. The movie was made for $35 million in 1988 and it came out in the summer, so it was their summer blockbuster with a relatively unknown guy. I mean, he was known. People saw him on tv. But like, you're not talking like a blockbuster person.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Our television stuff, but not ever being in a movie. Never really. Yeah. Never headlining something like this.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: And it was super successful. $142 million.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: I can't really imagine the big muscle down dudes doing this as well as.
As Bruce Willis did. The more like every guy, you know, that he feels. And also I can't imagine Stallone delivering the lines.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Yeah, no, you would have thought he was more. I honestly would have thought he was more of the terrorist.
He would have been like, you know, like that side of things. Because he's like, okay, it's more like ARL Schwarzenegger doing me. Like, wait, hold on a second. It wouldn't like, you're not like. This is confusing. Wait, you're the foreign national here.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: Not.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: Not Bruce Willis.
But, but so, so outside of the Christmas thing, it's an action movie. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's got heart. Because you see that. And also, like, it proves to you how to save your marriage. Just be attacked by a terrorist while you're fighting. Because then you guys come together. Because you guys are almost about like y.
Which obviously we've known. We've seen these movies. There's multiple of them. It actually doesn't work out in his benefit, but says every time I watch.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: A movie, oh, it's so sad. They don't actually stay together.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: It's like, okay, but let's be honest. He's a die hard cop. Die Hard. A die hard cop from New York that loves his job, that does all this stuff. That he's a career man. And obviously that's like they're both career people. Like, she has one career and he has this one kid and it's just not going to match together and so on and so forth. It's one of those things that they probably do love each other deeply. It's just not going to work out. And that's what ends up happening. Spoiler alert. This movie came out in 1988. The sequels came out just not that long after that. So if you haven't watched the Die.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: Hard 2 in the theater, I specifically remember going to theater and seeing Dire two being really.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: And so it made super successful. It's.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: It's also takes place during Christmas.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: The sequel is another exact. Exactly. And that's, that's one of those ones where I'm like, always like, oh, and then Home Alone 2 does too. And it's like, okay, this is like, I love.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: I love. And dire to the references that, like, how can the same happen the same guy twice?
[00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it was true. And it's what I've always thought about 24. It's like, after a certain period of time. 24. And. And Die Hard. After a certain period of time, you're like, okay, there's only so many times you can save the world or go against the president's orders to. To. And then people go, you know, don't worry, I've almost killed someone. Or pretending like I was the villain. You can only do this so many times where someone's like, okay, you got to stop. You got to get out of the. And so. But, like, truth.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: I have to retire. Like.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Truthfully, though, what makes this a really good movie? Like, to me, I'm like, always. The Christmas connection has always been there.
I love Bruce Willis. I'm a big. Always a big fan of movies that are part of the series. Like, the number of Die Hard movies makes the movies better a little bit because of the fact that I can go back and watch a bunch of them. Like, if I watch Die Hard 1.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: I can watch 2 or 3. 4. I really enjoy the first three.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: What makes this a good movie, in your opinion? Like. Like, I. I think it's a good movie. We're in agreement here. It's a good movie, right?
[00:20:05] Speaker B: Like, so I think Alan Rickman as. As Hans Gruber is phenomenal. I think the villain gets it. This. The, Like, I don't know. He's slimy, sleazy. He does. He'll do whatever it takes. He does no, like, hair.
But he's also, like, he's suave and he's smart, and he's like. So I. I feel like.
I feel like you have the perfect.
Not to mention you get, like, the perfect characterization here. You get this regular cop versus the guy in the suit. You know, you get all of this stuff going and. Yeah. I don't know. This whole movie, like, the. The flow of this movie is perfect. I think the timing and delivery is perfect.
It was weird when I was reading about critics reviews that all the critics loved Alan Rickman. They all said, like, he was perfect. But the amount of reviews that said that Bruce Willis came out flat.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: And I'm like, really? Because I didn't see that. And that most of his acting was against special effects, which is true. Like, there's a Lot of scenes of like crazy special effects in this that he's going against. But I feel like you care about the characters. I feel like even Holly as like the side character, sort of the damsel in distress rules. She's supposed to be filling. You still care about her. She's gritty, she doesn't put up with crap. She's not afraid to go up in front of. Of Hans and, you know, make the demands for the people that are there.
So I feel like everything in this movie just clicks. Like they, they nailed it when they got this thing.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it is. Casting is like, there's a. There's a couple of characters you're like and kind of annoying or you could have cast anybody. But like Bruce Willis, he. I say yes, he falls flat a little bit, but not in a negative way. In my opinion, it's the Everyman. Like, he's not a superhero yet. Like, when you get to our 3, 4, 5, 18, 20, he becomes a superhero. And like he's jumping bikes into plane helicopters and like, yeah, this to me, yes.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: The fourth Die Hard movie to me is where it crosses the line into like, it's just.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: It's Fast and the furious one versus fast and furious 10. It's like they go to space and they're like, it's that is that build they have to build off of it. And so in the first one.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Does he jump out a window attached to a fire hose and slash smash into the next floor down? Of course that stuff happens. Does he?
[00:22:23] Speaker B: It's also when Shane. And like, not like he survives it, but that was another thing with this, like, overly. A lot of the things in him, like, cost him so much. It's not like, yes, yes, he was gonna die, so he's gonna die one way or the other. But you still get like the. Him bashing against the window and his. The blood all over the window from his foot and like.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: But he's like, not overly built. He's not the rock.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: You know what I mean? He's not Jason Momoa. He's got physical fitness to him, but he's not like he's balding in the sense, like, he's not like he's the every man cop. If you think about it. It's just. It is my mentality is saving life, obviously, and getting these terrorists to stop doing their plan. So it's like, it's. He cares about other people more than he does this whole thing. Paul. The other thing about it you think about, obviously, it's A fake movie, but, like, in bare feet.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, God.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Which I didn't see. The foreshadowing, I never thought about that.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: Like, come back. Like, the first terrorist he kills, he's like, 100 million terrorists this world. And I kill one with feet smaller. And my sister. Well, he's always like. Goes back to reference all these things.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Hey, by the way, I'm kicking ass here with no shoes on. And it's funny because it's like the foreshadowing I never saw until I watched it this time. Time, which was when he's on the plane, the guy's like, hey, you don't like flying? Get to your hotel and screenshot your feet. So he takes the socks and shoes off and does it and then hits the fan. Now he's stuck without any shoes.
And that's why you never take your shoes off, people.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: No, but it goes back to that.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: And it's funny. And then he mentions it later on, and some of it's like a. Hey, by the way, I'm trying to make it look more extreme in that sense. Like the movie. The writers of the movie. But, yeah, it's true. I feel like he's just the. Every person visiting his wife, trying to rebuild their marriage together and. And he ends up saving the day in a sense, like. Oh, so the building's still. Still explosions and there's.
[00:24:03] Speaker B: Oh, the buildings.
Yeah. I mean, he saves. He saves almost all the hostages.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Cokehead. Anyway, so it doesn't really.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he put himself into that one. He's an idiot. So I love that.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that was. Hey, buddy. Like, the whole scene. And then he's just like. We're like. The second he called him, like, oh, he's dead. Like, the first time I saw this, I'm like, there's no way he's surviving this. And then the. The Bruce Willis knowing that. Like, John McLean knowing that. Like, he knows it from the beginning. It's not one of those things where it's like, oh, my God, he shot him. Like, he knew when he was talking on the phone, the second he knew who it was, he's like, dude, you're dead.
You do not know these people.
Yeah, you're dead.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: He hadn't found Holland. He's like, you're. Yeah, this is no way. There's no way we're gonna get you out of the situation you put yourself in.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: And the funny thing is, Alan Rickman goes on to play Snipe Snape in Harry Potter. No, like, he is a talented actor and I think that's the Hans Gruber. And then they do pull into this play into this later in the movies. Pulling in. Is it the next movie or is it the third movie?
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Is it the next third movie?
[00:25:03] Speaker A: Third movie where they bring in. It's his third movie brother or something other.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And then McLean knows that all of this stuff is just crap. Like the whole like he's a terrorist doing all this and they're gonna blow up all the gold and it's like, no, he's not. I know the family. This is, this is a heist.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Like at the end of it all he's just trying to steal it and make it look like. Yeah, he didn't.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Well, who was the guy in the limousine? Do you remember his name?
[00:25:27] Speaker B: Oh, the actor.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: But the, the character. Yeah, he was funny. I liked him.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Oh yeah.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: Comedy. Well, that's the thing I think also that does well in this movie is that I think a great action movie.
Argyle, a great action movie like this has to have light moments. So it has emotional moments with him and Holly.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: Drama Clan. But also has like those light moments like Argyle, the jokes about Argyle. The jokes back and forth with the other police officer. Forget his name too.
Yeah. And then the other like just. There's like jokes in there. There's also like this light heartedness that kind of like dampens because it was just blow up when Michael Bay movies are just blow up movies anyway. But like, yeah, you wouldn't care.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: That's the cat. No, you care. This like, like John, like overall you like him. That's why you can go back and re watch this movie over and over again. Because I enjoy the characters.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: Like, I like McLean. I just wanted to end up seeing him. And that's another one. We'll watch the first one and I already got the itch. Now watch the second one because I just want to keep seeing John McLean.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I did that. So I've read this Fast the Furious book called welcome to the Family and it was honestly fantastic. And I.
It goes back further for me because I got the first time I like skipped class in high school was to go see the Fast and the Furious. I was all into cars at that time and so on and so forth. So I was like, I want to go see this movie. The first time I like, I had people over like to watch like, like a bunch of people over to watch like a DVD to do. It was. Was the Fast and Furious one came out on DVD and, and so on and so forth. So I Like, to see the progression. I want to see behind the scenes. It was a fantastic book. It's called welcome to the Family. It's just available. It came out Tuesday, last Tuesday, the 25th of November. But I don't know where I was going with this. But there's. There's this. There's this. Well, there's this love to things and there's this, like, you know, you like number one and things progress, but, like, it always goes back to number one. To me, the best Fast and the Furious movie is always going to be number one because it's true where they. Where they built it from. And so Die Hards always. You meet number one. But I think that watch or like, watching all of the movies is going to be amazing. Oh, that's what I was going to. I read the book and I'm like, okay, now I want to watch the movies again. I'm like, oh, God. Watch all 10 movies and die Hards the same way. I might watch 1, 2, maybe 3, just to get through the older ones in the original films, really. And then see how I go from there and. But yeah, it's going back to watch this was fun. Like, it's one of those things that, like, I don't know. Again, that's another reason why I want to classify it as a Christmas movie. So I watch it every year because if I don't classify as Christmas, I'm like, I'll watch it every. Every once in a while. But, like, I'll watch every, like, November, December, because the fact that it has that Christmas theme to it and I have an excuse to do that. Not. Not just being a huge diehard fan.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: No, I think this is. This fits in my top 10 favorite movies of all time, and it might even be in top five. Like, I absolutely just love this movie and I love showing it with somebody who hadn't seen it before. Like, Liz and I watched it and she'd never seen it. I was like, how have you never seen Die Hard? Like, you kidding me?
And then it's funny, one of those.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Things that I'm always like, die Hard. It's one of those ones I'm always like, okay, someone hasn't seen Back to the Future.
I'm always like, Back to the Future is such, like, a popcorn movie in a sense, where it's just like a fun. There's no. It's not an action movie. It's an adventure movie. Like, it's like action. Any adventures. Like, action adventure. But like, when someone says they haven't Seen Back to the Future, I'm like, come on. Like, it's such a great movie. And then I'm like, what? Someone else has seen Die Hard or someone hasn't seen, like, a horror movie? I'm always like, well, if you're not into action films, I can understand that.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Well, that's right.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Back to the Future is one of those ones.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: I'm like, die Hard goes beyond an action movie.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, it does.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: My favorite movie is Robocop. I see somebody said, I haven't seen Rogue. I'm like, all right. I mean, you know, if you're like, a guy our age, I'm like, how do you not see RoboCop? But, you know, all right, I can see other people. I don't like sci fi or it's super violent or whatever. I mean, this movie's violent. But I am always shocked someone hasn't seen Die Hard. Like, how is that possible? And this year, I feel like Charlotte's finally old enough to watch it. And I was really excited to watch with her, but then she had a sleepover with friend. She went to their house. So, yeah, no Die Hard this year. Yeah, yeah.
My big exciting, we get to watch Die Hard moment, kid.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: And you know what happens? It's still one of those things that I. It's not so I know what happens in certain movies. Like, I don't know what movie I just watched recently where I was like, I know what happens next. But I still. But you don't know. It's been long enough that it's kind of foggy when it happens. You're like, oh, yeah, I have watched.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: The movie on vhs, dvd, Blu ray, the director's cut. Like, I have seen every variation of this thing besides seeing it on the big screen, which I wish I had.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: The only things that changed a little bit are like when the phone. When the dude from the office calls with Hans and says, hey, I got someone here, and you originally think it's Holly, and it's not Holly, and. Or you'd think that John McClain thinks it's Holly. And then when Hans Gruber is on the. On the floor and he's acting like he's not the terrorist. Yeah, those are the kind of things that you kind of like go, oh. Like when he calls Argyle in the. In the limousine, he doesn't an answer, or it breaks up. Like, those are things that, like, when you watch the movie the first time, you're like, holy.
Now it's like, well, you know what happens? But other than that, there's still moments where you forget or you get little clues to see things. Like I said, I didn't think of the foreshadowing of the feet thing on the airplane. To then thinking that, oh, yeah, that's telling you that he's gonna be barefoot the rest of the movie kind of thing.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: I think I might have this movie memorized.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: Well, it's one of those movies. And I don't. Like I said I don't. I can't really.
It's good acting for most part. It's good action.
It's 1988 special effects, which are not breathtaking, but they're not also horrible.
It's got that. To me, it's got that.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: I feel like the effects of this movie fit the time place very well. And I feel like none of it looks bad. That there's the scene where they have the SWAT send in their armored vehicle and you can sort of tell that it's like a model, but really outside that all these. I mean, the helicopter falling off the side of the building and blowing up still looks like a helicopter actually fall inside of a building, not a model. Like, the only one was the one scene just in the second that the SWAT vehicle goes up these stairs and gets caught.
That kind of looks like a model. And that's literally about it. But this movie also isn't. It doesn't require lots of special effects. Most of the movie is practical effects, which all hold up well.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: And it does, but. But I've never. What I can't pinpoint, and it's a weird thing is that it's all good, which makes it great. And so that. To me. But there's nothing to me, like, if someone goes, why do you like Die Hard so much? I'm gonna be like. Because I do. And that's basically my. How it boils down to. It's like I don't really have an actual. Like, you know, I love the. The relationship to Michael J. Fox or. Sorry. Yeah, what's his name? What's his actual name in the movie? Barbie, Fly and Doc Brown. Like, I love their relationship. I love this, that and the other. From certain movies. Like any Ann Jones and his. You know, whatever. But this is like one of those things. I'm like, there's this is good and this is good and this is. You add it all up and it equals great. I don't know. Like, exactly. I can't pinpoint exactly why I like this movie so much.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: Really like the character John McLean. Yeah. So you get to the point of like, I don't know, he's that you just like seeing him, you like following him along through his journey, like all that. I feel this movie does a great job too of keeping you on the edge of your seat and constantly really like getting every last minute of that like anxiety in the scene.
Like he's climbing down, he's trying to get away from the terrorist. They're closing in on him. They're getting so close. And he's trying to climb down the air duct and you can see he's using the strap from the gun and it's like it's breaking, it's giving way and it's showing it. And like it's not an unnecessary scene, it's not a dragged out scene, but it's perfectly done of like, oh God, is he gonna make it? Is this gonna work? Like they, they've done it and it's in it over and over again. He jumps off the roof with the, with the fire hose. By the way, my, I watched this as a kid with my grandmother and my grandmother's like, I'm done. She didn't like heights. She's like, oh, I'm through doing that. And his feet and she starts going to pick the glass out. My grandma's done like, no.
[00:33:10] Speaker A: Well, there is like, I usually get kind of cringy when I see something.
Oh well, every once in a while, obc, we have like the action like the mountain climbing, the Red Bull TV stuff on every once around. Like I could literally get chills like in me. I'm like, Jesus. And I'm like, obviously they're not dead. We would, they wouldn't show this.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: Probably not showing that episode.
[00:33:28] Speaker A: This is obviously fake. This is a make believe movie. However, it's still. There is still moments. But this is, I don't think as much to me. I don't know why, but I think that. Well, first of all, the only thing I would say is that he hand ties a large fire hose to him, right? Like if he actually had like, oh cool, this guy had climbing gear and you like that'd be a little bit. But like, I don't know, man. That's pretty ballsy.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: I guess if he doesn't, he dies anyway. So like to me it, to him, it's. It's better luck at doing this than just standing.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: He knows blown up. He knows that these guys in the helicopter are trying to kill him. Like he's out.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: If my house is on fire and I jump out, the first story. I know I'm gonna break my leg, but I'm not gonna die in a fire like that. Right thing.
[00:34:11] Speaker B: You jumping off the top of a massive building with a fire hose strapped around.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: I either can possibly break through the window and survive or die. And so it's like one of those things. What choice are you going to take? It's likely going to be that one. And. But also again, that's where it takes like the everyday man and makes him just smart. Small amount or so a little bit more of a badass is the fact that he even like thought about that this possibly could work.
And it worked. And it jumps out and does it. It's so. It's so.
I don't know. It's fun to see him do that and stuff. Again, the whole thing at the end, you're like, wait, he did it all barefoot?
[00:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
Like undershirt.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: Undershirt and like bleeding and just beat up and. And it's the proof of the. When the wrong people are trying to do like the people outside, the cops, the FBI.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah. They're not doing anything. Product.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: They're not doing anything right. And he's in there doing. Handling it all himself, like.
And no one believes that he's the good guy and all that stuff like that. All of that just moves together and makes such a great.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: Yeah. You have this sleazy, sort of like almost like sleazy politician cop.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:12] Speaker B: That's the chief of police there.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: That's.
Then you got the news.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: I'm gonna nail him. And then you have the other cop. The other like more like every man cop that is like you think he gives a. What you're gonna do to him. Like, seriously.
[00:35:26] Speaker A: Did they need to put the news anchor part in there? No, but it adds so much to the movie.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: Punching him out at the end of it.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: It' also like real life in a sense. Like it is that like certain media don't know where the line is.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:39] Speaker A: Like your dad and mom are stuck in this hotel, this. This office park and their buildings about to be blown up. And we're gonna go try to interview the kids at the house and the nanny and how. How poignant is it to nowadays when he goes, I'm gonna call ins.
Like, yeah, like that's exactly what someone would do now.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: What a sleaze ball. So he can get what he wants out of this. Oh gosh fall.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: And it adds like it said, it's another element, another layer to this story that. And again, I had not read the book and I guess people could Correct us on this, whatever. But is that part of the book and that's why it was added? Was it Hollywood adding some things to it to make it more of a rounded movie and some comedy and some things in it?
[00:36:14] Speaker B: Yeah. It'd be really interesting to read the book now.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: Never. I honestly never realized it until one day I was doing some research on this book, this movie, and realized that it was based on a book. And that was a couple years ago. And then when I was doing the research again for this episode, I was like, oh, yeah, it is based on it. I've got to add that to my list. I got to own it. I want it. I want to buy it and put it on my shelf because I feel like that's such a cool thing. It's those that you don't realize that's based on something. Like. Honestly, I didn't realize until more recently that I know you did. Last Summer was based on a book.
[00:36:43] Speaker B: That's surprising.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a horror. It's different. It's a completely. Not completely. It's basically took the title and some of the themes of it, but it's not the same. But, yeah. So I didn't realize it was based on the book, which is kind of crazy in that sense. So, like, yeah, seeing these. Some of these movies that you didn't realize.
Again, back to the Fast and Furious thing. It's not based on a book or a movie or a comic or anything. It's based on a newspaper article.
Yeah, Fast and Furious. It was called Race Reacts about the culture in racing. Street Racing. And they took that newspaper article and bought the rights to the story and made a movie out of it. So it's kind of like one of those interesting fun facts that I don't know. I mean, most people might know about it, but I didn't realize it until, like, more recently. That was based on the book, which someone getting way back into reading and reading novels and stuff like that. I can't believe I haven't read it yet, to be honest.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: You? Yeah, right. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I read Jaws this summer and absolutely loved it.
Like, and I never read Jaws knowing that the. That it started as a book first before the movie.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: So, you know, I got that one. So maybe next summer I'll. I'll read Die Hard as, you know, as the movie came out in July, we'll go for that. And I mentioned I'm such a slow reader that probably made a Christmas anyways.
[00:37:47] Speaker A: And I'm also thinking Back on things like the name of the movie Die Hard I think has done wonders for the movie. Like the movie. The book's called Nothing Lasts Forever. And I guess I. It sounds like an action film. Like Nothing Lasts Forever definitely sounds like an action.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: It's got a very James Bond vibe to it. Yeah. Nothing Lasts Forever. Like, but, but, but. I don't know. Wouldn't have stuck. I feel like this, like.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Well, the first again, we're going to. I just read this book, so that's why it's all in my mind. The first name for the Fast and the Furious was actually going to call Racer X because that was the name of the article. But then Racer X trademarks owned by whoever because of Speed Racer and all those guys.
And then it was gonna be called Redline and then they changed it to the Fast and the Furious. And I'm thinking myself like that those movies would not be around right now if it was called Racer X or Redline like those movies. Just thinking about like the name of the movie. Actually it still hasn't been any consistency.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: Red Line doesn't really imply enough to general knowledge of what that's.
[00:38:43] Speaker A: But like this is the same thing. I feel like that Nothing Lasts Forever would be great, but nothing Less. Forever two and nothing Less Forever with a Vengeance and all that wouldn't have worked. And so I'm thinking the best decision they made in that sense was calling it Die Hard and then Die Hard with a Vengeance and did it, you know, I mean, so on and so forth. It changes that thing.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: Did you remember seeing. Because I. I love this. When I worked for Advanced Auto Parts, they bought Die Hard battery from Sears as Sears was going under. And they made a Die Hard commercial and they brought back Argyle and they brought back. And it had Bruce Willis in it and they brought back what's his name, Theo. Theo doesn't get killed. He's one of the only. He's like the only terrorist that lives. And that's what they had. They had like Bruce Willis going on like the car dying on the side of the road.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: And then like Theo showing up, getting revenge and having all these terrorists and McLean's trying to get away from. He's crawling through an air duct and he falls out onto the floor of Advanced Auto Parts. He gets a battery. And it was like. It was. I gotta tell you, I humbly don't believe that. Advanced Auto Parts did a lot of right things. But they did something right there with that commercial that.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: That's. That's in that. And again, it's transcended ties, transcended actions, action movies, holiday movies, whatever you want to call adventure movies. It's transcending that to the point where it become pop culture. That Die Hard is one of these. I mean, they've spoofed it in a sense, like, you know, like other people.
Kevin Hart has done something called Die Heart, and they've done things like that where it's, like taking that theme of it and making it something else. I think those Christmas ornaments, pop culture.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Thing, this made it into the like.
Like main. Like stream.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: Like, of Die Hard, like, this is it. This is now made it for me. I mean, the fact that they do have in the Christmas section, that I'll Die Hard merch. A lot of places you go to, like, bookstores or whatever, you're gonna find those little pieces of it out at Christmas. So definitely has gone into that.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: It's. It's.
[00:40:39] Speaker B: It's movies, really, that has cost something into, like, more of a mainstream thing.
[00:40:45] Speaker A: Well, again, the legacy of it has been crazy. In 2017, I get selected to be part of the United States Library of Congress to be reserved as a National Film Registry. And that's just because it's culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant in the fact that we don't want to destroy this film forever because of how much it's impacted the long term of things. And again, it's changed the word of Diehard. When you say the word Die Hard now, it not only is, you know, talking about the movie, but you're talking about the statement. I, you know, Die Hard fan, but you immediately go, bruce Willis, like Bruce Willis and Die Harder synonymous with each other. It's pretty crazy. But, yeah. So that's why I think that. And also to finish up the Christmas part of it is that it happens during Christmas. All that Christmas music plays in the Open the Vault. He says, merry Christmas, and he opens the vault. And then after the movie's over, Paul, what's the music on the credit scene?
[00:41:34] Speaker B: That's Christmas.
[00:41:35] Speaker A: So to me, it's like one of those things. And I don't know. Again, I would love to be able to hear the history of this, Like, I'm reading that Faster and Furious book, but I'd love to be able to like, the story behind Die Hard. I know there was a special, I believe, on Netflix or something like that. Like, one of the movies that made us, I think, did one. I'm not sure I could be wrong on that.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: Don't.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Don't quote me on that. But because was it like, oh, we use Christmas as a theme and then bam, they added these elements. Oh, wouldn't it be funny if you opened the vault and there was pieces of music playing? Oh, wouldn't it be funny to use it as the post credits or the credits?
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Well, the scene where he. When he kills the first terrorist there, and then he writes the now I have a machine gun, ho, ho, ho, pussy Christmas hat on him.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
Is that all because of the fact that they start, oh, where he's visiting for Christmas, we're going to add these elements, then forced it into that more of a Christmas side of things, or was it the whole plan going on? And I'd love to be able to know that. I don't know for sure what that's all about, but yeah, it's one of those.
One of those things that just becomes, I guess now has put itself into the Christmas thing. If you want to watch it as a Christmas movie, you can. If you don't, you don't. And again, it goes to the whole it's Nightmare Before Christmas thing too, because it's technically a Halloween movie.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: You know, and. But Christmas is titled and it happens to have Santa in it, so on and so forth. So they kind of like that. You don't know really where it fits in that sense.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: But yeah, that makes sense. You guys watch it during, like Thanksgiving. That's pretty.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Well, like I said, you watch Nightmare for Christmas. You guys Die Hard, you watch some of these movies that are kind of fringe. Batman Forever, if you want to watch them. Iron Man 3, we've done this before over and over and over again about how the. The fringe, like it happens during Christmas thing. And there is that side of things. There's movies that happen during Christmas and there's Christmas movies. But I feel like this one that blends that.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Funny. So funny. The Iron Man 3 took place during. Christ, I hated that movie. I watched it in the theaters. I've not watched it since.
[00:43:14] Speaker A: But it does not significantly remember having Christmas at all.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: That's the thing. It doesn't have to be there. They just did that.
You know, Terrifier three is a Christmas movie because it's. He dresses up like Santa. It's a whole thing happens during. It's a whole thing is Christmas, but it's still to make it. They did it on purpose and the same thing, I think. Die hard, Iron Man 3, it's like Iron Man 1 and 2 didn't have a drink. We might as well make Something that's connected in that sense and so on and so forth.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: But I'd much rather watch the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special than watch Iron Man 3.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: You. Yeah, but I like the Guardians of Galaxy Christmas Special.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Oh, it's great. That's super fun.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: Nobody likes it. He's four.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: We listen to the music now. It's on like the playlist for the house.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: Kevin Bacon, man.
But yeah.
So it is to me. Yes. Christmas movie. But I also understand if you say it's not like, that's one of those things. I'm not gonna bite you tooth and nail on this. I'm not gonna drag it out and be like, you're wrong. You know, like it to me. It checks enough of those boxes and have enough of those themes to add it to the list. Here's the deal. There's. I have a list of like 250 Christmas movies that I could watch this Christmas rap.
[00:44:22] Speaker B: It's a lot of Christmas movies.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: There's no reason. There's no reason it has to be in Christmas then because it's already enough. Like, I don't need it. So I can again watch that. When you're first putting up the first Christmas decorations. Put it on.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: You got 250 movies. Die Hard better be on the list, I guess.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Well, it is, but I'm saying that, like, you can watch it in November. Okay. When people are pissed off that you're celebrating Christmas early, you don't have to watch it Christmas Eve. Like, I mean, like, Christmas Eve is for us to save for, like Rudolph in the Year Without a Santa Claus and Santa Claus coming to Town.
[00:44:49] Speaker B: Those Rankin Bass Claymation Christmas Story plays like non stop on one of the channels. So, like. L's family has to think about that having it on. Yeah. Which I love the Christmas Story, but. And then what. What country was it? One of the countries has like Home Alone. Is it Sweden or Finland or something like that? Home Alone is like the national Christmas movie. And they start. There's like a channel in that country that plays Home Alone non stop.
Starting like at Thanksgiving or something. It just goes on for like a month and nothing but Home Alone. Like, why.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: There is also a behind the scenes thing on Netflix movies that made us about Home Alone and that was one of the ones that said that was barely even almost made and all this other stuff. It's just crazy. It's also crazy to me that John Williams is a score for Home Alone, which is like the most mind boggling employing thing ever.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: That's crazy. But yeah, that's tonight's plans. We're watching. We're getting our cheese pizza and watching Home Alone.
[00:45:40] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: As a family.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Yes. Christmas movie. And to be honest with you, I. It's one of my favorite movies in the, in the, in the top 10 top 15 kind of movies out there.
But it's not a five star movie. So I think I'm gonna put it.
I wanted to say four, but I'll put it at four and a half.
Five stars for Paul. Five stars.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: Five stars all day.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: So that, that makes sense to me. I can understand it. I just. There's that one thing where I can't put my finger on why it's so good that gives it a half a star off. Like there's nothing that can just draw me out and point to specifically. I just think it's a rounded movie. It's a great movie. It's an action movie. Has the. I'm a huge Christmas fan. Has that Christmas theme to it, and so on and so forth.
Four and a half, five stars. I think it's perfect movie.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: I'd watch this movie like every month. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think. I mean, I literally had it on VHS as a child and watched it and watched every version of it. It's amazing. Like, the only reason I ever watched on laserdisc is I didn't have a laser disc player.
Or like when I, you know, if I bought a laser disc player, if I came home with my giant laser disc player, I would have been running out to get Die Hard on laserdisc. It would have been one of my first movies. I would have had Die Hard, RoboCop, and then like, I don't know, Ghostbusters. It would have been like, all right, let's go.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I. It's. It's true. And that's one of the things. We very rarely watch good movies and talk about them on here. And this is one of those two. That's a really good movie. We did more this year with Jaws and things like that. So we did do more this year.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: But Dick Tracy and Batman Returns, we've had some like. But then there's all also been plenty of crap.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: So Paul's got to get the shop open here pretty quickly.
[00:47:15] Speaker B: But it's about that time.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: What's your favorite Christmas movie?
[00:47:19] Speaker B: My favorite Christmas movie is Christmas Story.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: And it was funny because I didn't see it until I was a teenager and the first time I watched it, I was like, whatever. But it is a movie that is like grown on me and grown on me. And the idea of, like, getting the perfect gift from his dad that his mom didn't want to get and all that, that, that like, father, son connection deal, something about it just hits me. So mine is a little favorite.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: Mine's a little probably, you know, which.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: By the way, is another book I need to read because that was exactly.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: I'm reading it on my list and I need to read that book Fringe. And people might not like it as much, a little more controversial, but the Santa Claus.
The Santa Claus with Tim Allen is my favorite Christmas movie.
[00:48:00] Speaker B: Then it goes in a good movie.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: I think it's just unique in the side. The story itself is unique in that sense of how he becomes Santa Claus. It deals with child's abduction and like, this whole, like, thing and having people believe and not believe. And it has some fun, fun elements.
You know, I wish two and three and so on were as good as the first one has been.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: I. I enjoy all three of them.
[00:48:22] Speaker A: I enjoy watching them. I just think that is what they're. That that series of films is definitely one of those ones where it's, like, amazing and then, like, good or. And then like, they're not like, anywhere near at the top of that. That's there. But I think this is one of those things. Home Alone's up there with me too.
I do, like, come alone a lot. I, you know, I know. I understand why people like Christmas Vacation. It's a funny film. It's great. It's worth it. So I understand the Christmas story part of it all. And as a kid, my favorite Christmas movie ever was. It's a very rare movie that people don't know a lot about. It's only available on VHS. It's not streaming. You can watch it on YouTube. It's like 23 minutes long. It's a claymation movie called Follow that Sleigh. It includes Elvis the Rock and reindeer in it, and it's about these two kids that fall into Santa's sack. It's a whole thing. It's so good. It's got great music and it's fun. I have it on YouTube. I ripped it from YouTube to keep it because it's only available in VHS. And like anybody has a VCR anymore, you do. I might need to borrow it because the quality of it on YouTube isn't that great. So I wanted to worry about. The tracking wasn't great. So I want to know if I can. I can. I have the vhs. I own the vhs. I Bought it on ebay a couple years ago, is to see if I can get a better Tracking. A better version of it to have.
Because it's just one of those movies that's. It's 23 from one of those movies you watch, and you're like, oh, crap. I thought it was way longer than this. Because in your younger time.
[00:49:39] Speaker B: And you remember it last year, like, hours.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: And I like. Like, it was like 20 or 22.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Minutes of time as a child versus an adult.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: Like, it's good.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny. I.
I was only a. A couple years ago that Liz finally got me to put the VCR away. It was in the living room, hooked up to the television, and she's like, this has got to go. Like, why do you still own this? And I start pulling out all my vhs. But this is why she's like, you're.
[00:50:04] Speaker A: Like, all that's available on streaming right now. You don't.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: Oh, I have all kinds of stuff on VHS that is. That does not exist outside of the VHS.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: That was a joke.
The YouTube video or the Instagram video. The woman saying that she needs to buy a VCR because she has some stuff that's so old. And the husband goes, what are you talking about? What do we have that's not available on streaming? So. And so she goes, the last time the Cowboys won the super bowl, the guy's like, oh, my God, seriously?
But, yeah, there is some stuff. And Taylor hasn't put most of the stuff that Taylor Tyler talks about.
Oh, shit. Is available on dvd. And so there's not just, like, the vhs. There is this theater. But this is one of those few things. And they actually made it. I didn't realize until this year they made another one called Follow the Goblin, and it was a Halloween version of it. And I never saw that one, so I need to find out how to see that one. But, like, it's just. It's. It's a. It's a thing. And so, yeah, it's Christmas time, so you should watch Die Hard. Watch all your favorite Christmas movies. We actually are putting out a couple things about Christmas horror movies on the website.
Underrated Christmas movies. Those are all going up too, as well. We also did a Christmas reading for book club.
[00:51:09] Speaker B: We're reading the Deviant.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: That's on the list of Christmas comics.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: That I'm putting out the first volume.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm excited for the one I sent you. I forgot completely about that book. And it's not that old. And I was thinking to myself, I'M like, oh, why haven't we read that one yet? And it's one of those ones. Maybe November could be that because it's not as long and that way we're reading it pre.
But Klaus or Claus, whatever, Klaus I would say from. From Grant Morrison. It looks phenomenal. So I was like, oh man, I might just read it this year and just read it again next year to be honest with you. Because I'm like, I want to be in that mood.
But yeah, Christmas is a thing here. And there's in any medium that you like, there is something. There's novels, there's audiobooks, there's audio dramas, there's videos, there's TV shows, there's everything. And so yeah, but one of those things you should watch is Die Hard.
You can wait till the summer to watch it because the summer. Blah. But whatever you want to do. You do Christmas in July. Actually, that's actually July. It was Christmas in July.
But you can also do Christmas time movie watch with your family. Maybe not the family, maybe your older family. Family. Like don't watch.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Your family, don't watch. You rolled out, let's go.
[00:52:09] Speaker A: Eight year old's probably fine.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: Before I was gonna let Charlotte watch it. I'm sure Emma could watch this movie.
Katie. No, no, no, no.
I saw it when I was little, but I wasn't right in the first place, so it's fine.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: Get your milk and cookies out, watch hot cocoa, watch Die Hard, watch Drama Clan kick some ass. Oh, I forgot to mention this. I love. My favorite thing honestly about this movie is the fact that what you wouldn't expect, you know, like in Seinfeld they always like he goes, people always talk about. He goes, hey Newman. And he goes, hey Jerry. Like Newman and Jeremy. It's only said like in the nine seasons, like 13 times. Like it's not like it's not happened.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: All that's crazy because I would, I would have thought it was said like that's way more.
Yeah. So much more.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: Often when he says Yippee Ki for the first time, he says it so monotoned and quiet. It's just like yippee Ki and he walks away.
But in the future movies, he says it when he's driving the freaking motorcycle helicopter. And so it's so funny.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: It's like how self to shoot the bad guy. Yeah.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: If you say Yippee Ki to someone, they're thinking he's screaming it. But truthfully, the very first time he says it is actually so quiet and monotonous. Like Yippee ki yay. And he goes in the other room and I'm like, that is so funny. I just never. It never could dawned on me. But yeah, sit there and scream yippee ki yay. And watch your TV and say, merry Christmas.
It's an excellent movie. You can watch it. It's available on streaming.
Yeah, I understand where you're going on that. Four and a half, five stars.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: I'm gonna.
[00:53:31] Speaker A: I can't go five stars yet.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: But it's the first five star movie I've watched that we've had. Jaws. No. Oh, Jaws. Five stars. Yeah. Okay.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: But other than that, it's good.
I'll see you soon. But if I don't, Paul, which I will. I'm just gonna say it that way on the podcast to make it sound good. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, Justice Paul, we won't see. We will see. You actually. You actually will see people before the end of the year.
Yeah. Because I think your episode that you come.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: I see people before the end of the year.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: I honestly think it's. I think it comes out New Year's Eve is our comics of the year. So you can say, but Merry Christmas to everybody.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: I'm working on the list. I'm getting it done.
[00:54:07] Speaker A: They're all gonna be by Tinian because he just comes up with so much stuff.
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Problem solved.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly right. But yes. I'll see you soon, Paul. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas to everyone. And Die Hard. Watch it. Go watch it. Galactic Comics dot com. Galactic Comics and Clockworks dot com.
